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Posted 08 September 2004 - 03:55 #1

Hi, I know I posted a thread like this a while ago, but I cannot find it and want some new games.

Anyways, I am looking for some nice immersive first person games. I don't need a plot so thick that you need to take notes or read the book first to understand. But it should be immersive.

A good example is Theif2. If any of you have played it, you know it is immersive. You listen to people's conversations, observe behavior, act as a true theif. You are fully immersed in the story.

Another great example is Medal of Honor, Allied Assault.
The atmosphere is great in that game. My favorite aspect is the real German spoken in game. That is a golden attribute to immersion. There are no subtitles for translation for the most part. So unless you actually know German, you won't be able to understand. Operation Flashpoint had Russian in it, but not alot.

If any of you could name games with these qualities, please talk about them here.

For any game with foreign languages(something I am looking for) in it, they must be the actual language spoken by native speakers. Not some game developers or actors trying to fake it. If there are, then list the languages spoken.

Feel free to drop off ideas and comments.
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Posted 08 September 2004 - 04:15 #2

Also while realism isn't that important to me here, I would not like to always have to shoot an enemy 10 times to kill them.
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Posted 08 September 2004 - 05:27 #3

Doom 3. The damn thing gave me a heart condition, and that's what I'd call immersive.

edit: Thief 3 is also up there.





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Posted 08 September 2004 - 08:43 #4

Hidden & Dangerous 2 is a pretty immersive FPS experience.

The Splinter Cell series are also immersive, but then again; they're not FPS games, but 3rd pers.

To mention some older games that I found immersive at the time; the Rainbow Six series... especially Rogue Spear/UO/COE.

Not much else that springs to mind and/or fits your requirements. OFP has been the ultimate immersive gaming experience for me ever since it came out.

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 10:59 #5

Hi, I know I posted a thread like this a while ago, but I cannot find it and want some new games.

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 11:56 #6

I could mention Battlefield Vietnam of course. It can be immersing enough if you play on the right servers with the right people...

And there are spoken Vietnamese language in the game...if it's accurate and spoken by real Vietnamese I don't know?

...and as someone mentioned in your old thread; Day of Defeat (although the commercial release is shite...DoD was very good when it was a mod and up untill beta 3.0...now I'm just waiting to see how DoD: Source will be... Posted Image )

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 12:06 #7

Apart from the obivous OFP.. I'd say the next most imersive game is Hidden & Dangerous 2 like someone else said! You often finding yourself looking for PROPER cover (ie not just behind a fence or something) as the bullets have penetration and can ricochet off things, and it's always nice seeing a Nazi hit the deck like a sack of poop when you pop him in the head, then see the bullet also impact the wall behind him because of the power! (gotta love Lee Enfield's)
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Posted 08 September 2004 - 16:14 #8

Perhaps... DeusEx?
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Posted 08 September 2004 - 17:23 #9

You'll love Call of Duty if you liked MOH:AA. Pretty much the same game but CoD is much more polished.
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Posted 08 September 2004 - 17:31 #10

I preffer TPS to FPS, so I don't have any favourites here.
One is unable to experience the body movement from FPS, which makes it unrealistic.
All the lean movements, crouch, bend (over?) are artficial, since one is unable to see his own body.
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Posted 08 September 2004 - 17:49 #11

What turns me off from buying that new raven shield is that, even though they got all these cool weapons, graphics, n tools, how the enemy will react. In OFP, you got a slim chance to actually quickly brisk past an enemy if they're gun is on their back or if they're sitting at a campfire, you can totally catch them off guard. In those games for R6, they're like always ready, and like, another thing is they see you out of the corner of their eyes, they turn around blindingly fast and shoot you, its like totally unreal how fast they spin around and pop an accurate shot off. Then again i haven't played raven shield, but i have played the past ones. In ofp they actually turn around rather then just auto face in the direction of the sound and start firing. It just feels good to play a fun game sometimes rather than a simulation.





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Posted 08 September 2004 - 17:52 #12

Imersive FPS Posted Image . Hmm there is only one.. VIETCONG (the original, not expantion). I strongly recomend you try out the demo caled "Crash in the jungle" (not the expantion) before to see how it runs on your system though.
Forget about CoD and all that quake stuff, i cant find a game where you pick med packs, body armor and ammo from big glowing boxes of the ground imersive not the mention all the other bs surrounding that type of...er games Posted Image .
OPF isnt really imersive too, the a.i. dont feel like real soldiers in any way and plot is average.
Vietcong is imersive in every single aspect from swearing and good voice acting to the characters and the live jungle, sounds, levels, pretty much everything.
If you do be sure to check out the demos first (it runs reaal bad on some systems), to pach it up to latest version and to get the MATURE version with all the gore and really good swearing and voice acting.
This one sure beats the crap out H&D2, the first and really decent nam game ever made Posted Image .

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 18:26 #13

Vietcong is good but I feel the jungle feels too narrow and restricted sometimes.
The first Burma level in H&D2 has the best jungle I've ever seen in any game which by the way is made by the same firm, Take 2 Interactive, as Vietcong was. H&D2 is very immersive game overall with very much attention to put detail. It's pretty realistic too as there is the stamina system and on hard level you'll usually get killed with a single rifle shot or short SMG burst yet you still sometimes get to lenghty firefights with the AI. I'd say H&D2 comes second after OFP when it comes to FPS immersion.

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 18:51 #14

The first Burma level in H&D2 has the best jungle I've ever seen in any game which by the way is made by the same firm, Take 2 Interactive, as Vietcong was

Actually, take 2 is just a publisher. Illusion softworks made both Vietcong and H&D-games. They also made the rather immersive Mafia too. Posted Image

Illusion softworks is also from Czech, am I starting to see a pattern here? Posted Image

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 19:02 #15

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 19:15 #16

What turns me off from buying that new raven shield is that, even though they got all these cool weapons, graphics, n tools, how the enemy will react.  In OFP, you got a slim chance to actually quickly brisk past an enemy if they're gun is on their back or if they're sitting at a campfire, you can totally catch them off guard.  In those games for R6, they're like always ready, and like, another thing is they see you out of the corner of their eyes, they turn around blindingly fast and shoot you, its like totally unreal how fast they spin around and pop an accurate shot off.  Then again i haven't played raven shield, but i have played the past ones.  In ofp they actually turn around rather then just auto face in the direction of the sound and start firing.  It just feels good to play a fun game sometimes rather than a simulation.

They shoot like special forces. That's why so many people stopped playing. That and the engine is highly moddable but nobody mods it.

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 19:30 #17

The first Burma level in H&D2 has the best jungle I've ever seen in any game which by the way is made by the same firm, Take 2 Interactive, as Vietcong was

Actually, take 2 is just a publisher. Illusion softworks made both Vietcong and H&D-games. They also made the rather immersive Mafia too. Posted Image

Illusion softworks is also from Czech, am I starting to see a pattern here? Posted Image

Hm... no, the developer of Vietcong is called Pterodon and i remember the Burma level in H&D2 and it looked nice but...static Posted Image has the bushes and trees of VC do wave and shake and the jungle sounds are just perfect Posted Image .
IMHO H&D2 was rushed out the door and it quite showed has the levels and a.i. were rather poor, ive seen better level development in OPF user made missions and the graphics and stuff on the larger levels looked very outdated Posted Image .

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 22:30 #18

I like or liked at the following.

1: Delta Force, DF2, DF LandWarriors. (Liked)
2: Return to Castle Wolfenstein (Like)
3: Hidden & Dangerous Posted Image
4: Rainbow Six (Liked)
5: Alien vs Predator vs Marine (Sucked)
6: OFP, OFP RedHammer, & OFP Resistance ( Posted Image )
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Posted 08 September 2004 - 22:55 #19

Hidden & Dangerous II ...hands down is the best tactical FPS out there..its so immersive and entertaining. I think it's one of the few tactical games where the AI isn't cannon fodder and can be used to knife another AI enemy. Viet Cong SUX's ASS I can't believe anyone likes that game...the levels are boxed in, the AI sux and you fail missions just because a teammate(who doesn't really even help..)..goes down. I guess the concept overcoming and adapting never reached that dev team. But I like most are going crazy waiting for Brothers in Arms to come out..I expecting BOA to break new ground, also the H&DII expansion pack will definately worth a visit to the local EB Games Posted Image
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Posted 08 September 2004 - 23:27 #20

Something I've had fun with lately, and undeniably a top-notch FPS, is No One Lives Forever 2: A Spy In H.A.R.M.'s Way... whilst not the most recent nor the most military, it's attention to detail (like you have several different types of ammunition for the weapons you'll be mostly using) to the somewhat "secluded openness" of what you can do, if the theme doesn't put you off, then be sure to try this one out if you haven't already, and have a lot of fun!




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