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Posted 24 March 2012 - 19:12

Is Arma 3 Authentic?


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Do you think Arma 3 looks oddly futuristic? Do you think it looks more like a fantasy game than Arma? Have you never seen some of those weapons or vehicles?
Then this Thread will help you!

It is dedicated to people who, from the first impression, think Arma 3 is not authentic. People who would like to easily show someone that in fact the opposite is the case and last but not least also people like me, who just like to discover all those little interesting details.
I hope this collection might actually help and open some eyes to get over this first impression of "future stuff".

Please keep in mind that this list also contains placeholders and concept assets that are not in the final game but kept in this thread for the sake of the comparison.
Get comfortable, lay back and just assure yourself! :popcornsmilie:

Vehicles:

Merkava tank

Here it is in real life and that's how it looks like in Arma 3.
Also notice how it uses the "Trophy" active protection system.


Patria AMV

Real life - Arma 3


Oshkos M-ATV

Real life - Arma 3

"Ansyr" M-RAP

Real life - Arma 3


Comanche Helicopter

Real life - Arma 3


Mi-48 "Kajman" Codename ONNTSA

Real life - Arma 3

2T "Stalker" ARV

Real life - Arma 3

LGS Fennek

Real life - Arma 3


L-159

Real life - Arma 3

YABHON-R UAV

Real life - Arma 3


KA-60

Real life - Arma 3


"Crusher" UGV

Real life - Arma 3


AH-6

Real life - Arma 3


V-22 "Osprey"

Real life - Arma 3


MK.8 SDV

Real life - Arma 3


F-35B

Real life - Arma 3


HEMTT Truck

Real life - Arma 3

special version

Real life - Arma 3


Car

Real life - Arma 3


Namer APC

Real life - Arma 3




Weapons:


NEMO mortar system

Real-life - Arma 3



GM6-Lynx

Real life - Arma 3


KAC LMG

Real life - Arma 3
caseless ammunition

CZ EVO 3

Real life - Arma 3

XM-25


Real life - Arma 3


Railgun concept


Real life - Arma 3


XM312

Real life - Arma 3


MK14 EBR

Real life - Arma 3


TAR-21

Real life - Arma 3

Butterfly

Real life - Arma 3

Other:

Camo Scheme

Real life - Arma 3


Radar station

Real life - Arma 3

Leather Moccasins

Real life - Arma 3


MCCS Micro Climate Cooling System

Real life - Arma 3


Transparent display/HUD technology

Real life - Arma 3


Greek Seagull

Real life - Arma 3


F-35 pilot helmet

Real life - Arma 3


Olive Trees

Real life - Arma 3


Maroula, Limnos

Real life - Arma 3

Spartan Trail

Real life
- Arma 3

ISO-Container

Real life - Arma 3


Ops Core FAST Helmet

Real life - Arma 3





Another important element of Arma are the environments.
Arma 3 will take place on the island called "Limnos". Its real-life counterpart is called Lemnos and is situated in the Aegean Sea. The second island is called Agios Efstratios. If you are interested, I made a Picasa Web Album with a huge collection of pictures from Lemnos, Agios and similar places you can find here.

Now, let's take a look at some comparison shots of Limnos vs Lemnos.
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Nr.3

Agios Efstratios: Arma 3 vs Real life
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Nr.2
Nr.3

Next to the general outlines of these islands, the team even accurately modells characteristic buildings one can find there.
One example for that is the Limnos Power Plant.
Arma 3
Real life

As you can see, even the ventilators and the fucking pipe are in the correct place!




I hope you enjoyed taking a look at this collection and maybe look at things from a different angle now

ps. Huge shoutout for the team! When researching all the pictures and information for this thread, I was really astonished by the amount of detail and love you put into the game.

kind regards

pure

Edited by PurePassion, 29 January 2015 - 00:56.
Added the 2T "Stalker" ARV to the list

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 20:01

Thank god you posted this. Hopefully this will end the plague of non-believers! :D

Good work! :)

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 20:33

The simple fact that any Iranian would be using Merkavas or Tavors is so ridiculously stupid that it makes my brain bleed.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 20:47

amm, actually "real life" photo of the infamous Mi-48 "Kajman" is not authentic. That's just Mi-28. Sure, devs have taken lot of stuff from it, but i think description need to be corrected. For great justice, you know...
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 21:04

The simple fact that any Iranian would be using Merkavas or Tavors is so ridiculously stupid that it makes my brain bleed.


Ditto. Regardless of how anyone wants to play the ArmAverse card, from a TO&E standpoint, it is stupid and the imbecility of it leaves me somewhat speechless. However, it's been discussed ad-nauseum up to this point.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 21:04

Are the butterfly, seagull and olive tree comparisons there to make sure we're not inventing sci-fi variants? :eek:


The simple fact that any Iranian would be using Merkavas or Tavors is so ridiculously stupid that it makes my brain bleed.

Perhaps today. Think into the hypothetical future! :)

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 21:26

amm, actually "real life" photo of the infamous Mi-48 "Kajman" is not authentic. That's just Mi-28. Sure, devs have taken lot of stuff from it, but i think description need to be corrected. For great justice, you know...


Ditto. Regardless of how anyone wants to play the ArmAverse card, from a TO&E standpoint, it is stupid and the imbecility of it leaves me somewhat speechless. However, it's been discussed ad-nauseum up to this point.


Really? So if a country has the posibility to produce a foreign weapon design that is superior to it's own , during wartime, it wouldnt? What's so stupid about that?

Good post Pure, I say it needs to be a sticky :)

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 21:33

Are the butterfly, seagull and olive tree comparisons there to make sure we're not inventing sci-fi variants? :eek:



Perhaps today. Think into the hypothetical future! :)


There are plenty of Iranian produced components. They have their own MBT, IFV, APC, and small-arms weapons designs now, and a few advanced ones in the pipe. Hypotheticals have nothing to do with it. It is however Iranian ideology first and foremost. Something most around here can't seem to get their heads around.

Iranians in Israeli vehicles is like Hitler and Nelly Sachs acting in a play together.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 21:54

There are plenty of Iranian produced components. They have their own MBT, IFV, APC, and small-arms weapons designs now, and a few advanced ones in the pipe. Hypotheticals have nothing to do with it. It is however Iranian ideology first and foremost. Something most around here can't seem to get their heads around.

Iranians in Israeli vehicles is like Hitler and Nelly Sachs acting in a play together.


You are talking about an Iran 20+ years into the future that went through a regime change. I can not remember where I read it, but they are not an islamic republic anymore. The whole "down with the zionists!!!" fades away after you made an example of them. What greater insult there is then to use their own technology against their allies.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 22:04

Don't iranians use T-100?

I thought iranians used the hexa-camo stuff, while blufor used non-camo vehicles in ArmA3?
ArmA2: "Doc, I'm wounded, I can barely aim and I'm bleeding badly, come on pull my body out of the harm's way and treat me before I die!"
ArmA3: "You are wounded! Click to instantly regenerate health whenever you feel like it!"

Guess two years post-release aren't enough to make ArmA3 at least half as dumbed down.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 22:16

Don't iranians use T-100?

I thought iranians used the hexa-camo stuff, while blufor used non-camo vehicles in ArmA3?


They use both the Merkava and the T-100...

You are talking about an Iran 20+ years into the future that went through a regime change. I can not remember where I read it, but they are not an islamic republic anymore. The whole "down with the zionists!!!" fades away after you made an example of them. What greater insult there is then to use their own technology against their allies.


So I guess that explains why the Iranians are the only ones who use the Oshkosh M-ATV as well, huh?... :j:

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 22:16

Don't iranians use T-100?

I thought iranians used the hexa-camo stuff, while blufor used non-camo vehicles in ArmA3?


They use both.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 22:31

I'd say wait until the Alpha to find out who uses what and go with the flow in the campaign (if it is playable, unlike the A2 camp at launch)
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 22:37

really nice post! A hard job.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 22:38

You know the only thing that bothers me so far about this game is both MBT's for opfor and blufor is the Merkava. Granted there's some other tank with a railgun mounted on it but I don't like the idea of both main factions sharing weaponry, particularly armor with the same thermal signatures, silhouettes and all (yeah there's a camo difference but in some conditions that could be hard to identify). I have a hard time believing NATO couldn't adopt (assuming BIS is tired of the Abrams) the Challenger or the Leopard, esepcially the Leopard which gets no love these days from games :( .
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 23:25

^^ yep kind of bugs me too,
Though I thought maybe it was due to BLUFOR rebels capturing (reclaiming), OPFOR's latest (stolen tech) vehicles. Thats asuming what is known so far of the campagain story line. But there should still be a definative BLUFOR MBT if only for side missions and MP, and I think it would be better to be Euro centric (I'd vote Leopard but happy with Challenger), rather than the US Abrams.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 23:42

^^ yep kind of bugs me too,
Though I thought maybe it was due to BLUFOR rebels capturing (reclaiming), OPFOR's latest (stolen tech) vehicles. Thats asuming what is known so far of the campagain story line. But there should still be a definative BLUFOR MBT if only for side missions and MP, and I think it would be better to be Euro centric (I'd vote Leopard but happy with Challenger), rather than the US Abrams.


I can get behind that. Especially seeing as how most of the models in the ArmA series are hi-res retex's from a certain military version of the game, (I have it, I should know) and it can't be that hard to do.

We're talking about NATO's domain here, it really should be a Leopard or Challenger.
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 00:20

There are plenty of Iranian produced components. They have their own MBT, IFV, APC, and small-arms weapons designs now, and a few advanced ones in the pipe. Hypotheticals have nothing to do with it. It is however Iranian ideology first and foremost. Something most around here can't seem to get their heads around.

Iranians in Israeli vehicles is like Hitler and Nelly Sachs acting in a play together.



Why is it so unbelievable that the Iranians use Israeli things. In WW2 the Germans used lots of soviet war material that they had captured.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:13

Actually if Iran is invading Europe it makes sense that Israel is occupated. Thus most of it (if not all) tech is captured.
ArmA2: "Doc, I'm wounded, I can barely aim and I'm bleeding badly, come on pull my body out of the harm's way and treat me before I die!"
ArmA3: "You are wounded! Click to instantly regenerate health whenever you feel like it!"

Guess two years post-release aren't enough to make ArmA3 at least half as dumbed down.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:24

I can get behind that. Especially seeing as how most of the models in the ArmA series are hi-res retex's from a certain military version of the game, (I have it, I should know) and it can't be that hard to do.


Of course, why double up the work? And no, not entirely, customers have paid for said models to be produced for the VBS range, with that comes agreements. None of the BAF stuff is from VBS2, and with good reason. It's not just a case of picking and choosing. Easy to do? Not as easy as you may believe.

Edited by Messiah, 25 March 2012 - 01:43.