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Kalle Maatta

Which CPU for Arma 3?

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Greetings dear Arma 3 community!

I'm looking for a good CPU for Arma 3 and I was thinking about getting the i5 7500...

 

*****! My money won't allow me to buy that expensive CPU. Very very sad...

So, maybe I'll just need to buy a cheaper one, maybe a very good i3? :)

What do you think? i3 7100, i3 7300 or is it going to be i5 7400 if I can steal some money from the K-Market (just a joke) ?

This is also my very first PC that I've build myself.

I'm desperate...

I will buy the ASUS nVidia GTX 1050 ti 2GB Expedition graphics card.

 

Is i3 7300 better than the i3 7300? Please help me.

 

Thanks in advance! :)

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When it comes to CPUs for Arma you should get the best you can afford since Arma is a CPU heavy game.

 

That said your local CPU is just half the battle and the sever matter just as much. However, I would personally go for a i5 or i7 quad core with the fasted core clock speed I could afford (its the turbo clock that matters). The core clock being the most important part for Arma fps. An i3 is too low for other games that uses more cores effectively and its not future proofing your PC so you are better of saving a bit for an i5 at least.

 

Why not AMD? Because AMD in my view seem to have more issues in Arma and provides lower performance at this point in time compared to Intel. For other games it a bit back and forth, but Arma wise. Intel is King.

 

While this is something you dont want to hear. The best CPU and the only one I would consider TODAY if I was to upgrade. is the Intel i7-7700K (Kaby Lake). You might be better off saving a bit for the high tier CPUs if Arma gaming is your target for your first PC build.

 

Since I already have a i7- 4400K I am not interested in upgraded yet, but Intel Coffee Lake is coming out in 2018 which is rumored to have some performance gain, compared to what I have, to the point it might be worth it. 2018 is also rumored to have an AMD processor that might actually compete with the high end Intel ones because Intel CPU gains in performance between generations has been slowing down because of the lack of competition in that market. Time will tell though.

 

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8 minutes ago, JojoTheSlayer said:

When it comes to CPUs for Arma you should get the best you can afford since Arma is a CPU heavy game.

 

That said your local CPU is just half the battle and the sever matter just as much. However, I would personally go for a i5 or i7 quad core with the fasted core clock speed I could afford (its the turbo clock that matters). The core clock being the most important part for Arma fps. An i3 is too low for other games that uses more cores effectively and its not future proofing your PC so you are better of saving a bit for an i5 at least.

 

Why not AMD? Because AMD in my view seem to have more issues in Arma and provides lower performance at this point in time compared to Intel. For other games it a bit back and forth, but Arma wise. Intel is King.

 

While this is something you dont want to hear. The best CPU and the only one I would consider TODAY if I was to upgrade. is the Intel i7-7700K (Kaby Lake). You might be better off saving a bit for the high tier CPUs if Arma gaming is your target for your first PC build.

 

Since I already have a i7- 4400K I am not interested in upgraded yet, but Intel Coffee Lake is coming out in 2018 which is rumored to have some performance gain, compared to what I have, to the point it might be worth it. 2018 is also rumored to have an AMD processor that might actually compete with the high end Intel ones because Intel CPU gains in performance between generations has been slowing down because of the lack of competition in that market. Time will tell though.

 

My2cent

 

Thanks for the respond!

I appreciate your knowledge but i3 is good enough for Arma 3:) I've seen so many benchmarks and i5s are very good too, over 40 fps on high-very high is possible.

I don't want to save a year and I need a new computer now so it's i5 or i3, later about one or two years later, I will save money for an i7.

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No matter what CPU you get, make sure you're getting the overclockable version of it, a matching cooler and overclock it.

Took 1-2 hours after I built my rig to overclock the 4770k to 4.6ghz stable under load. Given a base clock of 3.5ghz that's a 30%+ increase.

 

Cheers

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Buy the fastest Intel CPU you can afford starting with the i7-7700K, then followed by i5-7600K and down... get one that clocks as close to 5 GHZ as possible. If you cannot afford those cpu, I think an I5-4690K would be a good choice.

 

Or maybe even a Dual Core I3 that clocks super high like over 4.6 GHZ. But every other game will start to slow down as many games other than ARMA 3 uses 4--8 cores now.

 

The reason is not that AMD cpus are bad, but ARMA is coded fairly single thread for the AI and Intel cpu clocks higher, even though the new AMD cpus are nearly IPC equilvalent with fast ram.

 

So in a MP game, either Intel or AMD cpu would be good so long as the AI runs on the server. If you are playing SP or COOP hosting the AI, get the Intel CPU. It makes a big difference.

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You can go for the Pentium G4560 at first and then later upgrade to something like K version of i5/i7. It's 3,5GHz dual core with hyper threading so basically i3 with low price tag 60-70€.

Those i3 CPUs are money waste now. Buy good motherboard, RAM and 4 thread Pentium. Then later when you've money to buy K version i5 or i7, sell the Pentium and replace it. You really want the K version at some point.

 

I wonder if your budget could afford 4 core Ryzen, was it 1400? That's other way to have a good platform for future upgrades/needs for your budget. Just get good overclockable motherboard and if you can afford, some FlareX RAM or other that could hit that 3200MHz.

 

 

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While much of what has been posted previously is correct, not all quite address the "inexpensive aspect" of it. I currently run Arma on an i5 3570K (non overclocked). I purchased it when Arma3 released in 2013 and its still running strong. While an i7 will outperform an i5, there is absolutely no reason to spend that much if you're on a limited budget. 

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Probably the best cheap option is to see if someone is selling something like a Ivy Bridge or Haswell i5  processor that is overclockable and get an older second hand platform. This will allow you to save a bunch of cash and still get a decent i5/i7 that you can overclock and get decent performance.

 

All the tests I have seen shown 4 cores is the sweet spot. The game is mostly single threaded but the parallel parts really matter as well so you can't just get a dual core and get great performance. Look into those second hand options and you might find a deal you can live with price wise that gets you a better CPU. Arma isn't easy to run, its going to struggle on a 1050 ti as well, simulation games in general hammer a lot of things.

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7 hours ago, brightcandle said:

Probably the best cheap option is to see if someone is selling something like a Ivy Bridge or Haswell i5  processor that is overclockable and get an older second hand platform. This will allow you to save a bunch of cash and still get a decent i5/i7 that you can overclock and get decent performance.

 

All the tests I have seen shown 4 cores is the sweet spot. The game is mostly single threaded but the parallel parts really matter as well so you can't just get a dual core and get great performance. Look into those second hand options and you might find a deal you can live with price wise that gets you a better CPU. Arma isn't easy to run, its going to struggle on a 1050 ti as well, simulation games in general hammer a lot of things.

Yeah get a second-hand i5-3570k ($80), a z77 mobo ($90) and 8GB of fast (1833+) DDR3 ($50). Then overclock the nuts off her. She'll do 4.0 GHz no sweat, 4.2 easy, 4.3 prolly, 4.4 maybe and 4.5 if you're lucky and/or willing to invest in a decent ($30+) HSF.

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17 hours ago, domokun said:

Yeah get a second-hand i5-3570k ($80), a z77 mobo ($90) and 8GB of fast (1833+) DDR3 ($50). Then overclock the nuts off her. She'll do 4.0 GHz no sweat, 4.2 easy, 4.3 prolly, 4.4 maybe and 4.5 if you're lucky and/or willing to invest in a decent ($30+) HSF.

Fire Extinguisher... :eh:

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3 minutes ago, chrisb said:

Fire Extinguisher... :eh:

Not all.

Even with ambient temps sky-rocketing (29°C last night!), my 3570k@4.5 barely breaks 70°C under load.

In spring, autumn & winter, she's usually hovering around 60°C under load.

That's with a €45 HSF (Scythe Mugen 4).

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OK I've got a little update! I'm getting the i5 7500 and I decided to not buy a new GPU and I will use my one and a half year old MSI GTX 750 ti OC. Thanks for help guys! Kalle signing off!

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