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Thread: ARMA 2 CTD but still running in Task Manager

  1. #61
    Same here:

    Yesterday the first time. with out mods and its the german metaboli version updated to 1.05.

    sound of the game was still running

    never had this before....i played a SP mission in the editor.
    Last edited by mc sonar; Feb 13 2010 at 09:05.
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    as i said before in an other thread,i get those CTD's only when its getting dark on the maps.
    its like from 6.00pm to 8.00am.
    and only then.when i choose any daytime in the parameters,the game runs like a charme.
    well,now iam interested in your crashes. do you guys have them randomly ? do you have them like me,only when its nightime on the maps ? its interesting for me to know if iam alone with this special nightime issue !

    update : for the first time ever i installed a beta driver. i installed nvidias 196.34 win7 64bit international beta. the point is now,i still get the CTD's,but it switch me back after 10-20 seconds !!!! its still unplayable,because it takes about 20 seconds to switch me back to the game automatically,but it does.
    can anyone confirm this on his machine ?
    Last edited by seelix; Feb 13 2010 at 13:27.

  3. #63
    Its not an night time issue for me, it can be random but there are times its more likly to happen than others.

    When you get in or out a vehicle, when the system is going to load something and the screen darkens for the "receiving" text (anything that darkens the screen seems to eb able to trigger it), saving can cause it (agaijn screen goes darker for saving).

    If i use a UAV and zoom in on buildings etc eventually the rendering will go hay-wire and i can get this issue (sometimes i get a proper crash error).

    Using the binoculars to zoom in again can cause it.

    It can be night or day, mostly they have happened during the day for me.

    I also didnt start getting them until i had gotten to the Razor Two missions before that was pretty smooth sailing.
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    If i am having issues first thing i do is put everything back to stock, please keep that in mind if/when helping me troubleshoot an issue.

  4. #64
    ARMA CTD but prog still active happens when a windows program comes up, COULD BE TS, i have known it to happen on numerous occasions with msn happened twice tonight for me when MSN poped up in windowed mode.

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  5. #65
    Have any of your tried disabling/uninstalling virus scanners, disabling UAC, and running as administrator?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldogs View Post
    Have any of your tried disabling/uninstalling virus scanners, disabling UAC, and running as administrator?
    This is how my system runs at all times.

    Basically I can gaurauntee this happens every time I play. In fact I can't remember the last time I actually quit the game by using the normal method haha.

    It's still definitely gotta be a memory issue as it happens after I start flying around or moving around a lot and lots of textures/events have to load quickly. All my rpt files say that the game is trying to call for more memory that isn't there because the game doesn't seem to be refreshing/dumping previously used items that are no longer needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldogs View Post
    Have any of your tried disabling/uninstalling virus scanners, disabling UAC, and running as administrator?
    keep in mind what LEOPOLDOS signature tells you.
    If i am having issues first thing i do is put everything back to stock, please keep that in mind if/when helping me troubleshoot an issue.
    iam missing that attitude in your last about 50 comments.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imperator_Pete View Post
    It's still definitely gotta be a memory issue as it happens after I start flying around or moving around a lot and lots of textures/events have to load quickly.
    as i supposed,like some others. the game runs fine,and then the red light on the frontpanel of my comp begins to light intensely....and bang,CTD.
    also leopoldo is damn right.the zoom function troubles me too sometimes. it looks like it has to load to much memory....and to quickly.
    Last edited by seelix; Feb 15 2010 at 09:28.

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    I gathered by "Back to Stock" he meant putting his overclocked CPU/GPU's back to stock, not setting Windows back to stock, and windows back at stock tends to have UAC enabled.

    From what I'm hearing it sounds like a memory leak. Especially the constant hard drive thrashing showing that it's most likely flooded the RAM then moved to the page file, flooded that, then crashed 'cause it can't allocate anymore memory.

    You can try setting a custom page file to the sizes of :

    initial size : 1.5 times the amount of ram you have
    max size : 3 times the amount of ram you have

    (so basically if you have 4gb of ram set the initial size to 6114 and max size to 12288, accounting for 1gb = 1024mb)

    It may not help but it's worth a try.

    Also, and I'm sure it's been tried by everyone, try running Arma2.exe -maxmem=2048

    Although this isn't the only cause of the problem. As I've said before, I have created the problem myself by doing certain things :

    - Oveclocking my CPU to unstable in which only Arma 2 would crash

    - Updating my motherboard drivers to ones that Arma 2 didn't like

    - Installing the iZ3D drivers (installing them a second time on top of themselves fixed the issue)

    - Installing ATI Tray Tools (although many games don't like ATI Tray Tools)

    - I created several other scenarios too, but can't remember them right now.

    So basically it means that it's not always a memory leak, but there's a good chance that a lot of you are suffering from a memory leak. So try the workaround I posted and hopefully it helps, but either way, hopefully it'll be fixed in a patch soon.
    Last edited by Bulldogs; Feb 15 2010 at 10:49.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by MattXR View Post
    ARMA CTD but prog still active happens when a windows program comes up, COULD BE TS, i have known it to happen on numerous occasions with msn happened twice tonight for me when MSN poped up in windowed mode.
    Thanks for the input

    sadly i dont think its anything i can utilise as i dont use any programs like Team Speak (TS stands for Team Speak?), i dont have anything like Messenger installed either.

    Its not caused by taskbar "pop-ups" for me. If it was then it still be a game problem as there is no way to get back into the game once you have been "taken out", although its still running in task Manager the ARMA 2 icon disappears from the Task Bar and its not available via the ALT+TAB menu.

    As for uninstalling my Virus Scanner i dont fancy doing that for one game. I was having an issue with slow loading textures and stutter which i fixed by putting ARMA 2 on my exclusions list, now my Anti Virus does not monitor/scan the game, so its pretty much like turning it off.

    My Page file size is 9216MB as i have 6GB of memory, i may give the 3x pagefile size a try (18432MB) as a band-aid until the cause of the excessive memory usage (if thats what it is) is fixed at BI's end and put out in a patch. I also make it a static size so the pagefile doesnt get de-fragmented.
    Last edited by Leopoldo; Feb 15 2010 at 13:13.

  10. #70
    The two tweaks I've never liked are the no page file tweak (sometimes slight performance increase in some 64 bit games, but causes issues with 32 bit games), and the static small page file (worse than having no page file as it leaves no room for full swapping which is when windows trades 3 dumps of memory at a time, hence the 3x for max page file size)

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