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Do a bench with Atto or HDtune then you should see the advertised speeds.
And I believe AMD sata controllers are slower than the Intel ones, so expect to lose a bit from that.

Thanks I tried both of those:

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Not sure I really understand what either of those mean but some of the bars go higher toward 500mb/s so I'm guessing that's a good thing?

[Bee8190]

Okay total computer noob here. Starting to narrow down parts I want for a new computer and one I am having trouble with is the mother board. How important is this to gaming (arma in particular)?. Should I be looking to get a really good one, or should I simply be looking to get something that "gets the job done"? Thanks in advance for any help.

Well I could never justify spending (too) much on the motherboard as I'd say you can't really go wrong with any MB of today's lineup, from any well known manufacturers. (gigabyte, asus, ASrock, MSI, Intel...)

It's usually down to what features you require, like CPU power phase to madly OC your CPU , ( 2 or 4 way GFX setup ) or how many USb 2.0 - 3.0 you will need, reset CMOS and power on\off button on MB, how many SATA 6 and SATA 3, e-SATA, firewire, thunderbolt or even integrated Wi-Fi etc etc..

It goes even bit beyond all this but it difference may come down to what audio codecs are implemented, what ethernet driver it uses etc etc...too many factors I can cover here BUT once you understand the basics and what to look for its way easier to comprehend it all.

Now you might find a MB that has all this features on it and will cost you 300$ up, or you can find one that has only Crossfire or\and SLI slots, some USB 2 and 3 ports but deosnt have integrated wi-fi, has weaker CPU power phase, cheaper codecs and fewer **insert feature here** ports, driving the price of used components and \or licenses down.

There's just too much to cover but if you have any or more specific questions I'll (try to ) and gladly answer them here



@Placebo, the atto benchmarks look alright to me....( is the SSD on AHCI by the way as its recommended?)

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@Placebo, the atto benchmarks look alright to me....( is the SSD on AHCI by the way as its recommended?)

Yes it is.

[BasileyOne]

flash-based SDD's tend to [start]degrade after 1.5-2 months of usage in speed/size/reliability.
best-rated controller for SSD's is LAMD, presently acquired by SK Hynx with developer/designer.
and indilux/Marvel v4 - second in charts.

about "iNtel vs AMD storage controllers" topic. they comparable, AMD even better[but Nvidia even better than AMD], a bit, but drivers... quite opposite.
basically you don't need driver for both during usage in modern operating systems and motherboard, both because AHCI support[de-facto standard of storage interface/driver] and legacy/IDE [optional]HDD/SSD emulation by motherboard firmware.
generally AHCI also provide less CPU overhead.

[Dallas]

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[edit]misposted sorry

In answer to your original question, you could post here: Congratulations Bohemia Interactive

[sesdelta38]

It's been quite a long time since I last posted in these forums. I remember posting in this thread to get help on building a gaming computer. I need help with that again.

However, I'm looking for help on building one from scratch(my friends are helping with that). I want to know if their is any way to turn my Dell desktop into a low-end gaming computer.

If anyone can help, I will appreciate it greatly.

EDIT: Is there at least some possibility of putting in a new processor?

[Meyer_USA]

So I've been looking around and am planning to buy my first computer dedicated to gaming. (ARMA lol) It would be a first for me in general as I never really had a decent computer.

Anyways I'm looking for input on what anybody thinks of this setup. Think it would be able to run ARMA 2 and possibly 3 in the future on high settings with a decent FPS?

I plan on buying this from CyberPowerPC

Case: * Azza Genesis 9000 Full Tower Gaming Case w/ 2 x 230mm fans, 4x Easy Swap HDD, Dual Power
Supply Support, & front USB 3.0 Port (Black Color)

Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Maximum 120MM Case Cooling Fans for your selected case

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3820 Quad-Core 3.60 GHz 10MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (All Venom OC Certified)

Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel: Intel® Core™ i7-3820 Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel

Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: Extreme OC (Extreme Overclock 20% or more)

Cooling Fan: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)

Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: Standard Coolant

Motherboard: (4-Way SLI Support) GIGABYTE X79-UP4 Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ 3D UEFI Bios, Ultra Durable 5, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III RAID, 4 Gen3 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1 & 1 PCI

Memory: 16GB (4GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Quad Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)

Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)

Power Supply Upgrade: 1,000 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready

Hard Drive: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)

Optical Drive: LG 12X Internal Blu-ray Drive & DVDRW, 3D Playback Combo Drive (BLACK COLOR)

Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

What do you guys think of this rig? Should I change anything, or should I go with an alternative option?

[batto]

@Meyer_USA: looks great

[Tonci87]

Guys I need a new gaming mouse.
Suggestions?
Currently I´m looking at
http://www.amazon.de/Logitech-G500-G...5575391&sr=8-4

It should have enough extra buttons and should be of high quality.
Any suggestions?