PC Discussion Thread II - All PC related discussion goes here.

[Shashman]

Go for the GTX 560Ti 448 Core Version. It's got a stupid name and should really be called "GTX 565", as it performs almost as well as the 570.

If you're looking to save money, forget the i7 and go for the IvyBridge i5 3570K.

That HSF is a top choice by the way. It's winning awards left, right and centre.

[Special_Air_Service]

what is the difference between 60 Hz and 75 Hz refresh rate on PC monitor ? I feel my eye are better and not tired so fast when using 75 hz than 60 hz, but is there any effect on the gaming itself ?

[Shashman]

The higher the better, both in terms of image fluidity and the effect on your eyes.

[Hillsbills]

If money isn't really an issue are the i7 big boys worth it solely from an ARMA3 standpoint? I don't mind dropping the cash on a new build but if the gains are small why drop the extra $700?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115079

[Special_Air_Service]

The higher the better, both in terms of image fluidity and the effect on your eyes.

my default refresh rate monitor is 60 Hz , but if I change it into 75 Hz will it damaging my monitor ? Because I had read some article told that increasing refresh rate will cause damage to your monitor , and even though you had change into 75 Hz , the actual output you have will be still 60 Hz. Is this correct ?

[CameronMcDonald]

er what's the different between RAM speed (example : DDR2 667 mhz and DDR2 1066 mhz ) , is it affecting on gaming so much or it will only make a little differences ?

RAM speed is usually not as important as the amount you have, provided you are dealing with the same DDRX number.

The best analogy I've heard of is road transport. If you have say, 4GB of DDR2-667, consider it a van. However, if you have 2GB of DDR2-1066, consider it a Lamborghini.

Although the Lambo will get there (read: transfer data) much quicker, the van can deliver much more with each trip. The amount you can deliver far outweighs the speed you deliver it with in most cases, so it's better to have more RAM, rather than faster RAM of the same capacity. Of course, it's best to get more, faster RAM if you have the mulah.

[Special_Air_Service]

RAM speed is usually not as important as the amount you have, provided you are dealing with the same DDRX number.

The best analogy I've heard of is road transport. If you have say, 4GB of DDR2-667, consider it a van. However, if you have 2GB of DDR2-1066, consider it a Lamborghini.

Although the Lambo will get there (read: transfer data) much quicker, the van can deliver much more with each trip. The amount you can deliver far outweighs the speed you deliver it with in most cases, so it's better to have more RAM, rather than faster RAM of the same capacity. Of course, it's best to get more, faster RAM if you have the mulah.

Detailed information, thank you very much , eh much quicker transfer data affecting FPS on gaming or make loading faster ? or maybe not at all both ?

[Tonci87]

@JdB always go for a seperate cooler, the little things that are issued with the CPU are fine for office work but if you are into gaming simply pick the most efficient cooler you can get. Especially if you consider to overclock one day.

[PuFu]

my default refresh rate monitor is 60 Hz , but if I change it into 75 Hz will it damaging my monitor ? Because I had read some article told that increasing refresh rate will cause damage to your monitor , and even though you had change into 75 Hz , the actual output you have will be still 60 Hz. Is this correct ?

It isn't. What articles?
If your monitor supports 75Hz, good, you'll be able to select it from the list of screen resolutions available, and it will run @75Hz. BUT If it doesn't, even if you force it to show unsupported resolution and frequencies, selecting one of those will show a blank black screen, and will auto-revert to previous resolution in 15s.
You cannot damage a monitor this way, i'm sure of it.

RAM speed is usually not as important as the amount you have, provided you are dealing with the same DDRX number.

The best analogy I've heard of is road transport. If you have say, 4GB of DDR2-667, consider it a van. However, if you have 2GB of DDR2-1066, consider it a Lamborghini.

In this case the comparision in terms of speed would be between a VW Van (transporter), and a VW Golf. The difference between 667 and 1066 and neglijable in most applications. If we would be talking about DDR2 vs DDR3, things might be different though, and you comparison would be a bit more exact.

much quicker transfer data affecting FPS on gaming or make loading faster ? or maybe not at all both ?

The size and speed of the ram usually affects loading times, not average FPS. It does affect average FPS when the application is trying to load more into the ram than available ram. That said, more ram than it is needed doesn't make thing run better, nor worse.
For gaming purposes, even on 64-bit OS (taking into account that there is no native 64-bit binary file for 99.9% of the games out there), 6gig is more than enough.

For instance, my 24GB rig is normally using around 2-5 gig in OS or when gaming. There is a completely different thing when it comes down to multiple 64-bit applications running and performing various tasks simultaneously, that require a lot of data to be streamed via ram.

[Special_Air_Service]

Thank for you all that had answered my question
Actually I have Gigabyte EP45-UD3R which LGA 775 and compatible to Core2Extreme at max , I planning to buy Geforce GTX 460 or GTX 560 Ti but Iam afraid that even though my motherboard are fully compatible with those 2 VGA , my Processor will be heavily bottleneck by the new VGA. My current Processor is E7200 Core2Duo @2.53 Ghz.

Since the most powerful processor that compatible with my old motherboard is Core2Quad class (not mention core2Extreme because I think there isn't anymore Computer Store in my town that still have new stock of it) which in my opinion Core2Quad Q9650 is the best among it's class, will it make my new VGA bottleneck ?

Since I am reading that newer models of VGA such as GTX 460 or 560 a perfect match for Intel Core I5 or I7 class

Iam considering purchasing Geforce GTX 460 if GTX 560 Ti will be bottleneck with my Processor, even though maybe GTX 460 maybe similar bottleneck as well , but I have no choice (lower than GTX 460 are GTS 450 which Iam not too confident in handling future game)

Thank you for the help