Falling down the helicopter

[Lonestar]

I searched the forum but i found nothing about this issue.

It happened to me two times in game : im in a helicopter, i switch position (last time it was to team leader seat) and i fall down the helicopter like a ..
Well let's say like a dog shit

Am i stupid or is it a bug?

Thanks for the replies

[walker]

Hi LoneStar1

You do not say which Multi Player mission this happens in.

So it is impossible to be certain but it may be you are attemting to fly a chopper in a mission or game play form where non pasenger seats in the chopper are restricted by either role or rank; possibly both.

So in such a game form you have either to select the pilot role after login at slot choice screen or it may be that you must be involved in the capture of several objectives before you can rise to sufficient rank to enter a chopper in any role other than the passenger seat.

In some game forms you can only fly a chooper if you are both air crew and have a high rank.

Kind Regards walker

[Xeno]

LoneStar1, it's a bug in A2.

Happens mostly when switching gunner seats in a chopper.

Xeno

[walker]

Hi Xeno

If it is a bug I have never experienced it.

I switch from crew chief to door gunner regularly in several missions and it has never happened to me.

If you are sure it is a bug; can you point to the record in the community issue tracker if there is not a record there, can you make such a report with an example mission and the procedure to repeat the bug, that way if such a bug exists it can be fixed.

Kind Regards walker

[Xeno]

I switch from crew chief to door gunner regularly in several missions and it has never happened to me.

If you are in 3D view you can see the unit that switches positions shortly outside the chopper (afair it's same for other vehicles).

Might be a synchronize problem, maybe another player tried the same exactly at the same time, dunno.

It's allways nice to hear players moan in TS... "Oh no, I wanted to switch positions and fell out".

No idea if there is a ticket about it in CIT.

Xeno

[Lonestar]

Thank you i never thought you'd answer so quickly

Ok Walker you're right i ddin't mention the mission : co30 DomiA2! West

I didn't do it because i thought it was more a general problem of the game than a mission related.

Might be a synchronize problem, maybe another player tried the same exactly at the same time, dunno.

No impossible we were only two in the heli, and the other one was pilot and didn't switch.

No idea if there is a ticket about it in CIT.

On devheaven website? I searched and it didn't return any result about this problem.

It's allways nice to hear players moan in TS... "Oh no, I wanted to switch positions and fell out".

I was so ridiculous that my team mates now think i'm a jerk. I lost all my credibility

[walker]

Hi LoneStar1

The versions of Domination I have played all had role restrictions several also had a rank system.

While I do not rule out the possibility of a bug completely, all I can say is that I have not experienced such a bug.

I can say that in various versions of domination jumping into the pilot seat or indeed a crew role without sufficient rank and/or not having selected a helicopter crew role in the assignment screen results in ejection from the aircraft. I have experienced this on the ground and never tried it in the air as a result, until I had sufficient rank. So I would presume that if you attempted to get in the pilot or indeed crew chief seat from a passenger seat of a helicopter without sufficient rank and or role capability it might well result in your summary ejection without parachute from said aircraft.

Bug tracking is made harder in ArmA by not showing the circumstances of a the bug. More often than not supposed ArmA bugs turn out to be mission bugs and yes that is even true of BIS campaign missions. And NO a BIS mission bug is not an ArmA bug; it is a mission bug.

Part of the problem is the lack of mission manual for many user made game forms. So for example the feature in Domination that prevents players below a certain rank from piloting gets called an ArmA bug when in fact it is a Domination feature even by Xeno and he project manages Domination.

Another problem is that some missions are adaptions and customisations of the original mission by other people who do not understand the scripts they are using, once again new features are not explained in manuals and are assumed to be bugs.

Kind Regards walker

[Belier13]

It occurs when you switch to a position right after another player does it (So let's call it synchronization problem).

Tested twice and confirmed.

[Lonestar]

Hi LoneStar1

The versions of Domination I have played all had role restrictions several also had a rank system.

While I do not rule out the possibility of a bug completely, all I can say is that I have not experienced such a bug.

I can say that in various versions of domination jumping into the pilot seat or indeed a crew role without sufficient rank and/or not having selected a helicopter crew role in the assignment screen results in ejection from the aircraft. I have experienced this on the ground and never tried it in the air as a result, until I had sufficient rank. So I would presume that if you attempted to get in the pilot or indeed crew chief seat from a passenger seat of a helicopter without sufficient rank and or role capability it might well result in your summary ejection without parachute from said aircraft.

Bug tracking is made harder in ArmA by not showing the circumstances of a the bug. More often than not supposed ArmA bugs turn out to be mission bugs and yes that is even true of BIS campaign missions. And NO a BIS mission bug is not an ArmA bug; it is a mission bug.

Part of the problem is the lack of mission manual for many user made game forms. So for example the feature in Domination that prevents players below a certain rank from piloting gets called an ArmA bug when in fact it is a Domination feature even by Xeno and he project manages Domination.

Another problem is that some missions are adaptions and customisations of the original mission by other people who do not understand the scripts they are using, once again new features are not explained in manuals and are assumed to be bugs.

Kind Regards walker

Oh come on you didn't read me Walker , you think i'm a noob?

I know about the rank system but this has nothing to do with my problem.

I was playing co30 DomiA2! West mission (no custom) and i jumped from a back seat to the gunner seat. My friend was piloting i didn't try to take his seat.


Hope this clears things up

[Xeno]

It's a bug that was allready in A1 and is now carried over to A2.

It's not related to a mission, it's a problem in the engine itself.

Xeno