So ive spent more time tweaking than playing...

[Malecite]

Hello.

First time purchasing a BIS product needless to say im less than impressed, now I could go ahead and swear pointlessly about the countless hours ive tried to actually get this shoddy piece of codding nightmare to run, instead im going to intelligently ask a question.

Is it now, or is it becoming, a general trend for software developers to release completely substandard products early for the sake of monetary gain?

If so, I believe this ARMA 2 to be a shining example of this kind of practice. At first when I booted up the title and managed to retreive around 11 - 15 FPS on a machine boasting an overclocked 3.6ghz Q6700 and gtx 295 I was slightly dismayed. After countless hours of reading the forums, guides, and trying every GPU NVIDIA tweak ive come across, im downright shocked. To date, ive gotten it to "run". I use that word loosely because it seems that my multiplayer experience becomes a choppy bloody nightmare when in any sort of situational combat. Add this to the numerous graphical glitches, CTD's, and other horrendous bugs, and youve got yourself a winner! Dont even get me started on the voice acting.... seriously guys?

This comes on the heels of purchasing "Tales of Valor" another wonderful example of the kind of ridiculous hyped up, over sold, kind of marketing that ultimately leads to consumers wasting their money.

I just read a post where a user actually intelligently, albeit fascetiously reccomended virutally space aged 16 core technology to run the game, and was immediately and visciously attacked/flamed. Am I to understand that the following of this Bohemia interactive studio defend this practice, rather ENDORSE a system where users purchase a title and simply wait for patches to make it playable? To be blunt im shocked. Im not one for perfection, but I certainly cant abide this kind of idiocy. Despite every red flag I red, every instinct that said "dont buy this title" I purchased it anyways as I LOVE the BF2 genre simulation combat. Im also a big fan of Company of Heroes, recently hilariously buggy patches ultimately annihlated the game play experience post Tales of Valor release. 5 months later patches restored THE ORIGINAL GAMEPLAY. I figured it was a phenomenon unique to Relic and their bumbling Q and A team.

What a dissapointment to learn that ive fallen, yet again, victim to what I can only assume to be an emerging policy in software development.

Release Now
Patch Later

I would offer my copy of the game, for free, to anyone who would have it. But ultimately I purchased it off steam and this is not possible.

I guess this is where you cue the followers to jump in and tell me to be patient and humble, awaiting the glorious patches to follow. Frankly you can keep your patches, this has been one of the most infuriating and disgusting pieces of software ive ever been tricked into purchasing. Part of me still hopes that patches WILL follow and I might actually see some of what the others are talking about. However this only serves to frustrate me further as it reminds me that I can only sit on my hands and wait as others, who paid the same dollar, enjoy the title I cannot.

[i am haji]

I dont understand how this works myself. I can settle for bad path finding, ai issues, and texture problems and patiently wait for patches to release but c'mon, there is a big performance issue.

Running arma 35-40 fps with med-high settings, than playing arma II with everything set to the lowest value and cant top 22 fps.

Please allow us to adjust the shaders settings and Building details!! its really killing the FPS

[MadDogX]

Needs moar concrete info.

What settings are you trying to run the game on?

[maka12]

good post Malecite, i agree with what you say the game is very poor even on a top end machine, i went out and bought a new machine just for this game, and i find it wont run smoothly so iam really pissed off my specs
phenom 2 x 4 955 black edition
8gb ram
crosshair iii mother board
ati 4870 x2 3 gb
os vista 64bit gamer
i did get aliitle improvement after i downloaded fusion gamer tweak from amd
but only 2-3fps. what i have seen of the game itself it looks to be really good
but whats the point of spending all that money on a new rig and having to play the latest game on low to med settings..its bullshit

[Bulldogs]

Hopefully it'll be fixed for you lot soon, I'm running it smooth as butter on pretty subpar hardware (e7300 OC, 9800gt, etc) but only running at 1280x1024, with everything on high to very high, no AA, 2000 view distance (do you really need to see more than that?!)

Then again, the same setup runs Arma 1 maxed out at 100 fps, so not sure what you're running to only get 40fps on Arma 1

[Mudkip]

Very true, the performance issues are really annoying but for me, the awesome gameplay makes up for it.

[Master gamawa]

Hello.
First time purchasing a BIS product

as I LOVE the BF2 genre simulation combat.

Well I think I found your problem.
You have to understand us man. Most of us have been there since Operation Flashpoint. We know the story. We got the thousand yard stare. Jaded bitter veterans we are...

And we know the Arma series is always rough when it starts. We have dealt with most bugs and we have more or less expressed the same complaints.

It's gonna work eventually.

Don't you know the golden rule? If you want to enjoy the Arma series you must buy the game a year after it comes out~!

[LockJaw-65-]

Sad but true, stick with it, it will all work out in the end

[Thr0tt]

I have to score the post 8/10, the overall readability was good, structure was well presented, nothing too hateful for folk to jump on and nothing too loving of the game or BI either. Some overuse of the word 'shocked' had a negative effect on my score of the thread as it made me feel that the seriousness had been diminished by a very emotive word.

Keep up the good work.

[MadDogX]

I still want to know what settings he's running on. 11-15 FPS with everything on very low and 500m view distance would be a cause for concern. With everything on very high and 10km view distance, it would be nothing unusual.