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    Quote Originally Posted by (Rakgitarmen @ Nov. 22 2008,21:21)
    Actually this is exactly the "I'm happy with what I get, I like getting the same thing every year. BIS rulz. You guys are a bunch of whiners LOL" attitude that encourages them to do minimal work on the simulation.

    It is obvious that they will not implement these things . . . but they also should know that there are people out there who are disappointed with the unchanged sim details coming from "ancient" OFP. And forums are the place to voice your opinion, your criticism for that.
    That is not what I'm saying at all. ***Two straw man fallacies in two posts. ***I'm sure that's no record, but it is at least notable. ***Perhaps you should actually read what I have written instead of knee jerking some pathetic canned answer you have prepared for anyone who's asking you to quit publicly raging against the brick wall. ***

    BIS has not shown at any time that moaning at them constantly will inspire them to make any changes. ***They don't respond to hostile criticism, to repetitive begging, to threats, to petitions or anything negative. ***They do respond sometimes to suggestions, and they respond very well to demonstrations. ***For instance, someone getting a flight on a small aircraft and demonstrating a rudder turn got them to tweak the rudder sim. ***Dslyecxi's 'Tactical Gaming Done Right' article and some internal meeting or something got them to change the static iron sights to free floating ones.

    And lastly, because I'm criticizing constant whining in general does not mean I think ArmA is perfect, ArmA 2 will be perfect, or that everything is 'all good'. ***I prefer to mention my criticisms in the appropriate threads once... like suggestions in the suggestions forum... and not roll the same point over and over in some kind of strange attempt to get BIS angry or apathetic enough so that they'll do whatever you say to shut you up. ***It's not going to work.





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    Ya gotta laugh really! ***

    From my point of view 50 quid spent on 2 games(Arma Twice) that have lasted me 7 yrs and still going!
    I dont think is a bad return no?

    Realistic glass shattering/not the proper reload anims etc etc

    Hmm - i can live with that! ***





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    The point is about making the criticisms being consturctive instead of constant bitching moaning or whining, thats means knowing that "enought is enought", accept the fact that they wont make it into the game, and hope some day some talent scripter can make it possible

    It is clear that BI isnt covering their ears and pretended not hear any voices, there is many suggestion that BI have taken and make them into the game, but they for sure have their own limit, time, money, etc., and in most case: Things that work on SP dont mean they work in MP.

    Therefore all we can do is to keep the developers feed with ideas, hope that they got all of the core part of the game right and think any ideas that come true as a gift from developers.
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    BIS posted some new PDF's on Arma2.com. I skimmed through them all, and most of them seemed to be the same from the presskit we saw a few months ago except for one: "ARMA 2 - Features PDF"

    You can see it here: http://www.arma2.com/index.p....emid=53

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    Quote Originally Posted by (Praelium @ Nov. 22 2008,23:41)
    BIS posted some new PDF's on Arma2.com. I skimmed through them all, and most of them seemed to be the same from the presskit we saw a few months ago except for one: "ARMA 2 - Features PDF"

    You can see it here: http://www.arma2.com/index.p....emid=53
    You guys should check out the Facts and Figures pdf file at the above link there are some interesting things there.

    Ex.) 8 Boats included; which is equal to OFP and ArmA put together if I remember correctly: LST, Mark II, Russian Boat, CRRC, CRRC (RACS), RHIB, RHIB (2x), PBX (I wouldn't techniaclly count CRRC and CRRC RACs as different though.




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    Quote Originally Posted by (plaintiff1 @ Nov. 22 2008,21:58)
    And lastly, because I'm criticizing constant whining in general does not mean I think ArmA is perfect, ArmA 2 will be perfect, or that everything is 'all good'. ***I prefer to mention my criticisms in the appropriate threads once... like suggestions in the suggestions forum... and not roll the same point over and over in some kind of strange attempt to get BIS angry or apathetic enough so that they'll do whatever you say to shut you up. ***It's not going to work.
    Thats definitely worth a "quote for truth"


  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by (Vultar @ Nov. 20 2008,19:26)
    I can't belive this is Arma (2) !!
    Looks like there is no as good team as BIS all over the world.
    Community wanted new animations? Here they are.
    Community wanted dragging wounded? Here it is + carrying.
    Community wanted hand signals? Here they are.
    Community wanted many things! Most of them are here.
    Thanks BIS. The only thing I hope is that my PC will be enough good to operate with Shader Model 3.0 ***
    Actually, not to say anything negative about BIS or ArmA2, but thoes are all very minor additions for a NEW game. Nothing in your list there makes BIS any sort of supream developer, or "the best team in all the world". In fact, ArmA2 is likely going to go down as a "been there, done that" game in the eyes of most critics and reviews. Thats not to say its not going to be a great game, or anything... just that its likely not going to be any major leap. COD4 for example, was an amazing game, but there was very little new in it when compared to COD1.

    As for the new screens and such, they look good... about the same as the last crop of screenshots/info. Still nothing seriouslly new, or amazing. My opinion remains the same, ArmA2 looks like its going to be decent, perhaps even really good. But its probly not going to hit with the shock and awe that OFP did...

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    Thats because OFP arrived to a empty table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (sparks50 @ Nov. 23 2008,11:49)
    Thats because OFP arrived to a empty table.
    Quoted for truth.
    OFP was like the first to do such an open environment and battles really well, so that's part of why people love OFP so much. Back then it was kind of a shock to be able to this stuff. Now however it has become a bit more regular, so you lose that part of the 'awesome factor'.

    For me what is important is to have that feeling of OFP back again in terms of atmosphere and gameplay, and this ArmA2 seems to deliver. And the focus seems to be on the campaign again, wich i loved in OFP, so this definitely will be a must-buy for me.

    ArmA has some flaws, but dudes, seriously. What other game that you can think of offers so much as Armed Assault does? The sea reacting to storms, ability to read the stars, day and night cycle, random weather, NVG's being affected by lightsources, sound taking time to arrive over distance, hell, butterflies with their own damn shadows and reacting to gunfire (at least they seem to do to me), bullet ballistics and ricochets, i could go on for a little while.
    Ofcourse the game is gonna be a bit limited in other area's, like the broken carglass. But that is just eyecandy compared to all the other features i just mentioned wich affect gameplay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (Jakerod @ Nov. 22 2008,23:42)
    Quote Originally Posted by (Praelium @ Nov. 22 2008,23:41)
    BIS posted some new PDF's on Arma2.com. I skimmed through them all, and most of them seemed to be the same from the presskit we saw a few months ago except for one: "ARMA 2 - Features PDF"

    You can see it here: http://www.arma2.com/index.p....emid=53
    You guys should check out the Facts and Figures pdf file at the above link there are some interesting things there.

    Ex.) 8 Boats included; which is equal to OFP and ArmA put together if I remember correctly: LST, Mark II, Russian Boat, CRRC, CRRC (RACS), RHIB, RHIB (2x), PBX (I wouldn't techniaclly count CRRC and CRRC RACs as different though.
    Last night, the Features PDF and the Facts and Figures PDF were the same, but now it appears that BIS fixed this by changing the former. If you want to see the information that I was referring to before, look at the Facts and Figures PDF.

    Just a heads up in case someone missed it.

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