</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (5thSFG Drak @ Mar. 02 2002,17:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">this is the first time we have seen ***a message like this ![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Sounds like you are playing on v1.45 now then.
And he is not a hero to me. Actually he is a friend of mine.
And CHANGES... are MODIFICATIONS (MODS). U cannot make addons without cpp definitions. And He does not modify the config.bin. You even can confuse this with different game versions.
You must not be very bright i forsee. Probably i should blame your mother for your bad attitude, and your all your ancestors too. Same deal isnt it? Think about it.
Look, he isnt stopping u to have fun. Where u playing with him over multiplayer? I dont think so. He doesnt.
Like any other openable piece of software... and game, if u want to make this issue stop, Play with a clan, with friends that do not cheat. Make up a anti-cheater lobby if u want... hunt them down... u even can get my help if u need.
I sympathize but u got your priorities wrong and directed in the wrong direction.
Now blaming ppl for giving general information is something different as to what others use that knowledge for whatever purpose they may. Its called responsability. You cant blame him for others misuse as he never did and DOES NOT have INTENT for cheating.
Actually, i discussed this issue with a-lone-wolf before. He considered in not sharing this data as he was afraid other ppl would misuse it. Any person that would have INTENT to cheat would do so no matter what.
Its like blaming cheating on BiS for developing the game code... when in fact its the anti-gamers that do so. Its like blaming Einstein for the idea of the possibility to split the atom... and giving him the responsability of making and using the atom bomb.
IT IS THE CHEATERS THEMSELVES THAT SPOIL THE FUN.
Freedom is inversely proportional to Security. Ppl are free to cheat because game code was left open to edit in the 1st place. Make it too secure and no addons would be possible.
Its a problem in balancing the two that has to be met. And that also means each gamer has their own share of responsability in this issue. Much like opinions.
It is each ones responsability to do whatever they want with their freedoms. Even cast it away... for the sake of safety.
(I suggest u disconnect from the internet now, somebody may be taking a peek at your configs right now.)
Of course u dont understand this. It is not prudent of you otherwise.
Now what the heck was the point of even messing with the code in the first place and releasing it? There is no reason to mess with it unless you are trying to cheat!!!! Explain please and I want facts not some made up crap!!! Pictures, downloads, the whole nile river if you have to!
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Peroxide @ Mar. 02 2002,19:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Now what the heck was the point of even messing with the code in the first place and releasing it? There is no reason to mess with it unless you are trying to cheat!!!! Explain please and I want facts not some made up crap!!! Pictures, downloads, the whole nile river if you have to![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
He didnt mess with the code. He merely converted it to a cpp file from the encrypted file.
Others decide what to alter. Complain on them instead.
Look I have emailed and talked to a lone wolf in the past.
But Come on man. Putting it out there so anyone can get it yeah right.
It is one thing to share it with one guy or the other. Who are Known addon makers. Or guys who are trying to make addons. But just to put it out there so people can actually just abuse it.
I understand it helps in the makeing of addons. I also understand stand that it helps in the improvement of the game. But look at the ofp editing site. They have a whole thread dedicated to it now.
Don't get me wrong though that site has help myself in the makeing of maps and other items. But look If you read some of the files on makeing addons from devils workshop. You do not need to hack the config bin. Just the addon itself to change its properities.
Also I hate to say it but, This game is screwed. Know that the config bin again is hacked again. Someone will figure the BLAH MODIFIED CONFIG crap and get around it.
Trust me I spent time as satelite/cellular and encryption radio operator in the military. If there is ways to get around some of the most sophisticated systems in the world freg hop, scrambling systems, and direct beam comunications. There is ways around this game code.
Some person may do it just to see if they can. Like all true human beings will go looking for approval and post it. Saying look at what I did!
But look Drak I feel your pain but what can we do! People are going to find away to beat stuff anway.
Plus as I have stated in my own words and have to eat them now!
THIS IS A OPEN SOURCE CODE GAME. SO THAT MEANS PEOPLE CAN DO WHAT THEY LIKE WITH ALL ANY INFORMATION. SHORT OF MAKEING ANOTHER GAME OUT THERE AND TRYING SELL IT WITHOUT CONSENT OF BIS OR CODEMASTERS.
SO if I put 15 rounds in a clip and lock and load A 9mm lay it on the table next to a Murder And he picks it up and kills you that makes it OK just because I obey the Law and have the right to bare arm's ?
Come on man dont give me this horse Crap !! I see right through it. I say BIS just locks down the code and doesnt loet anyone be able to HACK it . or make it harder than just 12 hours worth the work .
I may stand alone about this hacked config B.S. and cheaters but I will fight this. You guys have NO RIGHT messing with the config.bin !
you can say what ever you want about my wife and kids , my parents and my Grandparnets , But that still doesnt GIVE ANYONE the right to hack this crap !
GROW UP !
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">THIS IS A OPEN SOURCE CODE GAME. SO THAT MEANS PEOPLE CAN DO WHAT THEY LIKE WITH ALL ANY INFORMATION. SHORT OF MAKEING ANOTHER GAME OUT THERE AND TRYING SELL IT WITHOUT CONSENT OF BIS OR CODEMASTERS. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Um what are you talking about? OFP is far from being an open source game.
The reason why I am so upset is that I saw more cheating this morning on the FragHaus server than I ever saw before 1.45
A couple people came up with errors , some came up with moded config errors they just loged off and came back in 2 sec's and they had no error ! But were still running MUCH BELOVED a-lone-wolfs **(****()&**( .cpp
I mean you knew it was going to happen but you never gave a rats but lone-wolf.... Thats what TICKs me off soooooooo bad !
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Armourdave @ Mar. 02 2002,19:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">THIS IS A OPEN SOURCE CODE GAME. ***SO THAT MEANS PEOPLE CAN DO WHAT THEY LIKE WITH ALL ANY INFORMATION. SHORT OF MAKEING ANOTHER GAME OUT THERE AND TRYING SELL IT WITHOUT CONSENT OF BIS OR CODEMASTERS. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Um what are you talking about? OFP is far from being an open source game.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Okay armour dave I hate to tell you. But if bis lets people make addons and other modes useing the code from bis. Then not do anything about it. Yeah it is open source code. Or maybe a a better term maybe put in its place. But I hate to tell you the precident has been set by bis for allowing people to modify and change paramiters with out the consent of them.
The only thing they have not let happen is a production and sale of a game useing there engine with out consent. So you might want to think this one out.
Well it seems u got a hot rod up somewhere. Actually that attitude wont get u anywhere despite your legitimate concern.
Ah... the editing centre. Well they also have a hot rod up somewhere, and for a long time. Its called "chip en yer shoulder". Could give a damn bout that place no more seeing they have their head up their asses too deep. I would disregard any comment from them since they are not balanced. Hope yours is not the same case... well it has been so far.
But seeing this is to combat cheating i'll instruct u.
Actually its very simple. The info is there so u can use it too, seeing your all smart. He did not add or modify anything. He did not say what ppl could do with it, nor how. He did not incite cheating seeing from where ure abuse is coming... Bad strategy. I do not tolerate for imature ridiculous unfounded accusations, and i hope your not getting bad habits for the EC. Your cause is righteous... but keep it that way from now on.
But i'll do your thick skulls a favor... if somebody used it for cheating... then somebody can use it against cheating too. How? Like those who modified for cheating... find a way.
All u have to do is upload or check a clean config.bin from the start. So get around it and stop whining. You can stop it before it goes ingame.
So ive gathered some info. Your server problems... and i just gave u the answer.
Well if u cant hack it dont blame blindly. Doing so is letting the CHEATERS get the better out of u.
1st you are letting the cheaters get away with it.
2nd u only show the community your incompetence.
Seeing you where all so nice to the fella, deal with it alone from now on. You should have asked help instead of insulting.
Of course if u dont know how, u always can kick the cheater out, or change rooms. Simple.
The info is there for ALL to use, including yourselves! USE IT.
Of course if u cant then dont blame a-lone-wolf or anyone else for this either. Probably, u should be blaming Lustypooh since he started all this and wolf went from him 1st. Yeah that would be coherant from your standpoint. Why stop at him alone. Would not be fair from your perspective.
This looks ridiculous on you and proves the points above.
You just got more info than u deserved. And thats the only help you'll get from the light side of the Force. Brush up your manners from this point, u have no further excuses.
Good Luck. And keep the rooms clean.