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    Looks intresting...what do you guys think?ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT



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    well...I've had a x1950Pro for a couple of months (half year!?), sure it performed well in benchmarks and sure ATI didn't think twice about taking my money and deliver the card but in they still haven't managed to give me software for the card to work as the benchmarks promised. As a matter of fact the card is pretty much crap with ArmA as it is today...

    See no need to buy a new ATI card, maybe the old ones will be fast as h*ll as soon as (if ever) ATI will get their software working...



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    The article says the release will be in mid-may, however, I read some where that the due date was postponed till mid-june. ***

    I guess we'll see. ***I hope this article is right




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    Quote Originally Posted by (Abbe @ May 01 2007,15:59)
    well...I've had a x1950Pro for a couple of months (half year!?), sure it performed well in benchmarks and sure ATI didn't think twice about taking my money and deliver the card but in they still haven't managed to give me software for the card to work as the benchmarks promised. As a matter of fact the card is pretty much crap with ArmA as it is today...

    See no need to buy a new ATI card, maybe the old ones will be fast as h*ll as soon as (if ever) ATI will get their software working...



    /Abbe
    I've had the X1950Pro too and well pleased with it. I don't think it is the gfx card that is the issue with ArmA but could be more processor dependant.

    Only a few slow downs for me but only happens the more AI there are...
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    rthat model is not top one, plas its out preform 8800GTS not 8800 GTX. http://www.dailytech.com/ATI+Rad....052.htm

    there is prisec for different models:
    http://www.bootdaily.com/index.p....emid=59

    however ATI have one with 2GB VRAM i think (not sure) name was ATI x2900XTX2




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    Quote Originally Posted by (Key Dutch @ May 01 2007,18:21)
    rthat model is not top one, plas its out preform 8800GTS not 8800 GTX. http://www.dailytech.com/ATI+Rad....052.htm

    there is prisec for different models:
    http://www.bootdaily.com/index.p....emid=59

    however ATI have one with 2GB VRAM i think (not sure) name was ATI x2900XTX2
    Yep and the 9800 will come along and beat the new ATI card then the next ATI card will trump the that etc.

    Most important is that ATI now have a rival and this will bring all card costs down, ***nvidia have been able to milk the market for 6 months while ATI sat in the lab.

    Problem is most benchmarks matter moot for now till there is a Dx10 benchmark for Crysis, *** almost cards have been fine since the 7800 series for modern games in high res.

    Also of note is will the ATI card work well in a Intel DUO/QUAD or will it need a new AMD CPU? ***I'm worried there's a split going on with nvidia and Intel in one camp and the new AMD/ATI in the other.

    Its been a long wait for this card, ***I was getting worried Nvidia were going to dominate the market for 2 long which means we would all pay more for GPU's.

    The dialy tech scores showed both ATI cards getting powned by the 8800 GTX which is odd, ***perhaps the ATI needs the new AMD CPU or better drivers etc. ***It's taken almost 5 months for decent stable 8800 drivers to arrive. ***And as I said before the DX9 benchmarks are a bit daftt as both these cards are for DX10 and the awesome amount fo stream processors the new ATI cards have may make a huge difference.



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    there is only one thing which is starnge.
    X2900XTX and X1950XTX have same GPU and memory speed.
    that just confuse me, why ATI did not incrise PGU speed in X2900XTX, that would improve preformance, plas may be its will match 8800GTX.
    what realy confuse me benchmarking
    http://www.dailytech.com/ATI+Rad....052.htm
    how come better model have just little impruvments?
    and read comments, some users post benchmarks for X1950XTX wich not so diferent from X2900XTX
    there is question, can we or can not relay on benchmarking results of dailytech? they looks for me little bit strange.

    P.S. for who dont know 8800GTX ist overclocked 8800GTS




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    Quote Originally Posted by (Key Dutch @ May 02 2007,19:19)
    P.S. for who dont know 8800GTX ist overclocked 8800GTS
    Please tell me how to overclock 96 Stream Processors to 128 and 320bit Memory Interface to 384bit?

    I would like to overclock my GTX to say 150 Stream Processors and 420bit Memory Interface! ;)

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    One thing different between OFP and ArmA is that while ArmA starts up, you do see the logo: "Nvidia: the way it's meant to be played™" - that may mean something...
    "Why throw away your life so recklessly?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Most important is that ATI now have a rival and this will bring all card costs down, nvidia have been able to milk the market for 6 months while ATI sat in the lab.
    Uh... ATi has had a rival for a very, very long time...

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    Also of note is will the ATI card work well in a Intel DUO/QUAD or will it need a new AMD CPU? I'm worried there's a split going on with nvidia and Intel in one camp and the new AMD/ATI in the other.
    That will not happen, you can be sure of that. ATi graphics cards work fine (With (Basically (0-1)) no difference in FPS) with NVidia motherboard chipsets, and vice versa for ATi crossfire motherboards. (I myself run an ATi X1800XT on a nVidia SLi motherboard) I doubt that's going to change, so I wouldn't worry about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]there is only one thing which is starnge.
    X2900XTX and X1950XTX have same GPU and memory speed.
    that just confuse me, why ATI did not incrise PGU speed in X2900XTX, that would improve preformance, plas may be its will match 8800GTX.
    what realy confuse me benchmarking
    The X1950XTX already had very high clock speeds, so there was no need to improve numbers which were already very very high.


    Personally I'm not very sure about the accuracy of DailyTech's results. Here's one thing I noticed:

    Half Life 2: Episode 1
    XTX: 117.9
    XT: 118.9

    Uh... So the XT performs better in this test? What the hell?

    Also:

    Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
    XTX: 100.3
    XT: 101.4

    Again... Wtf? I know it's only a 1 FPS increase but still... It just doesn't make sense.

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