Shoot from little bird?

[urbanwarrior]

GSG9 or GSGN, whatever, i cant remember the difference, they train to fire from helicopters, they are only allowed to use 9mm para though so they use steyr's chambered for 9mm. i personally would like to see it implemented in the near future but who the hell knows whats going to happen, there's that much stuff flying about these forums about what should have been added or what should be added in the future it makes your head spin

[Col. Faulkner]

GSG9 or GSGN, whatever, i cant remember the difference, they train to fire from helicopters [...]

Ah, that reminds me...

[OT]
When I lived in Germany, a crocodile escaped from a zoo and
pursued a reign of terror in a local park - jumping out at
people and devouring a few pet doggies. Obviously suffering
from a rush of testosterone to the brain, the police tried to
shoot it from a flying helicopter (too scared of
being ambushed by the croc on the ground probably) and
fired dozens of rounds without hitting it. They were then
called off because of fears that someone might get hit by a
stray round fired by these nutters. They eventually heeded
wiser counsel and flew in a girl crocodile from another zoo
and used her as a honey-trap to entice the crocodile into
captivity again.
[/OT]

[kavoven]

Regarding "sniping" from helicopters. I recall in the film "Black
Hawk Down" Durant's heli "Super Six Four" is ordered into
position (quote) "to provide sniper cover". Did that mean he
was meant to splat any enemy snipers spotted or that
the men on board his heli are meant to "snipe" from the open
doors of his helicopter (or is it just meaningless Hollywood
pap)? I have always assumed the first option (with a large
measure of the third option mixed in).

I remember that part, too but you actually never saw them shooting from the chopper, although those to Delta Snipers Shougert and Gordon were on board.

So I guess this meant that they used the MG on the chopper against enemy snipers.

[sbsmac]

Quote[/b] ]but you actually never saw them shooting from the chopper

Didn't that guy 'snipe' the engine of the car from a heli in the very first scene (using a Barrett I assume) ?

[[CS]SOBR[1st-I-R]]

Didn't that guy 'snipe' the engine of the car from a heli in the very first scene (using a Barrett I assume) ?

It was a red dot scoped M4 if I remember right - no way a barret

Usually the chopper mounted GPMG 7.62mm is used to suppress enemy (snipers) or cover the troops while they disembark. That is also the sense of having Uh60 circling around to cover. They dont cover with 69mm rockets but those GPMGs.

You guys know that it is pretty difficult to shoot at a mansized target while lying out to 300 meters. So please tell me how accurate fire can be delivered when flying at a unkown speed, with changing directions and manouvers at distances below you, maybe hiding and several hundred meters away. That would need physical and mathematical mastermind to calculate the right angle and time of the shot. But still... its good to have that feature as spraying might come in handy while landing or flying just over rooftops.

[Max Power]

Quote[/b] ]but you actually never saw them shooting from the chopper

Didn't that guy 'snipe' the engine of the car from a heli in the very first scene (using a Barrett I assume) ?

In the movie he used a supressed m4.

It possible to shoot from a moving helicopter but not very probable that you will hit anything. I reason this from what I know about helicopters and shooting. The original poster should request the feature on the wishlist on the wiki.

[Dallas]

It's not totally unheard of to place police- and SF snipers in helicopters. It's probably not common practice on battlefields, but it does occur.

I do believe Operation Frenchpoint placed a sniper in their Fennec and I also saw a OFP littlebird with a gunner armed with an M16/M203. What's possible in OFP, most likely is in ArmA too.

[sbsmac]

Quote[/b] ]In the movie he used a supressed m4.

Good plan - you'd hate to give away your location on firing. Presumably they were special 'stealth' little-birds

I have to admit I was always a bit sceptical of that scene - I haven't travelled in a heli (yet) but was always given to believe they tended to rattle and vibrate rather a lot so would make for poor firing platforms. Still, an engine is quite a large target and you probably don't have to be terribly accurate when flying close to and with low relative speed.

[-Puma-]

What evidence is there (apart from supposition) that "BIS
is "learning" on ARMA before they will give full professional
VBS"?

Regarding "sniping" from helicopters. I recall in the film "Black
Hawk Down" Durant's heli "Super Six Four" is ordered into
position (quote) "to provide sniper cover". Did that mean he
was meant to splat any enemy snipers spotted or that
the men on board his heli are meant to "snipe" from the open
doors of his helicopter (or is it just meaningless Hollywood
pap)? I have always assumed the first option (with a large
measure of the third option mixed in).

And the ability to fire from all vehicles, not just helicopters,
would be nice. I reckon that'd be pretty much an essential
part of a portrayal of a 21st century "asymmetric" conflict
(not that ArmA is really all that great at modelling those, of
course)

I've read the book blackhawk down, and sughart, and the other delta sniper we're ideed taking out somali's from a blackhawk, while flying.

I believe the book is pretty accurate, as the guys who actually took part of the operation, gave advice to the guy who wrote the book.

[XCess]

Firing from vehicles would definately be a nice feature, and I can't really see any downsides to it. Of course, it shouldn't be limited to helicopters; firing from trucks, cars, APCs and even when turned out of a tank would also be nice.

I've been shot countless times in Flashpoint while waiting for people to get in the helicopter, sitting there defensless as a squad of ruskies rush the LZ. It really does get quite annoying.... almost as annoying as reading about the firing ports on the BMP in the OFP manual, and not actually being able to use them