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    should they help with the war on terriosim?

    I can see why russia dosen't want to help in terms of with military force.
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    Hum, Russia is invading Tchetchenia and call their citizen "terrorist". India is planning to invade Cashmir and say they're just getin some terro camp. Terrorism is just a reason to invade another country. So what do you think when you say "war on terrorism" ?
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    yes russia is in war with chenueya.I read that american interfeered in th war there before sept 11.I guess american is a cold war mod...

    russia allready been to war with afghanistan for 10 years they probably know how the terriosts act in there.

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Silencer @ Jan. 21 2002,17:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">russia allready been to war with afghanistan for 10 years they probably know how the terriosts act in there.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    do not mix terrorism and guerilla.

    terrorism is something you can do alone, anytime, anywhere...

    but if you didnt mean that afgans/mujahedin is terrorists but meant that the russians had there fair share of terrorism against them, then you are right......the war in checnya (the latest one) started after a few houses in russia were blown up in terror-strikes (most likely), some 400 russians died.



    but i think that reacting on terrorism with force (attack a whole nation, of course striking the terrorists only is good)only does more damage than good, and it certainly does not end the terrorism.

    you could pick up any major conflict in the world and see that reacting to terrorism with extreme force (army) is a dead-end.

    the french lost algeria after fighting the terrorists using torture and the army...they actually almost beated the terror organisation, but they got the people against them.

    israel - palestine?...many palestinians do support the terrorists, why?......possibly becouse they have israeli tanks roaming the streets and buldozers razing there homes.

    usa - afganistan...al-queda is still around, it will always be, thousands of afgan civilians are dead, nothing really changed..usa is still as threatened as it was before the war, and im sure something will happen again soon enough.


    terrorism is really bad, but it gets larger support if the affected nation over-reacts and punishes more than the quilty ones.




    in my opinion, terrorists should be treated as criminals...and therefore not fought by the army, but by a policeforce (international one, of course)...since most, if not all nations, are against terrorism, it would not be impossible to create a policeforce without nationality, something like the un..with the right to enter a nation and co-operate with local police to find and capture the terrorists.


    its silly, naive..childish to even think that a army can end a terrorist movement, it has failed everytime it has been tried, it will fail in the future also.
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    During Russia war with Afghanistan I wouldn’t call the people-fighting terrorist I would call them freedom fighters. Of course funded by the US. You reap what you sow.

    Why should Russia bother help they are practically a 3rd world country the economy in shambles have the country ran by the Russia Mafia. The army useless for anything there a joke in the play of world power.
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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Thehamster @ Jan. 21 2002,18:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">During Russia war with Afghanistan I wouldn’t call the people-fighting terrorist I would call them freedom fighters. Of course funded by the US. You reap what you sow.

    Why should Russia bother help they are practically a 3rd world country the economy in shambles have the country ran by the Russia Mafia. The army useless for anything there a joke in the play of world power.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    I wouldnt wanna mess with their ICBM&#39;s

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    "usa - afganistan...al-queda is still around, it will always be, thousands of afgan civilians are dead, nothing really changed..usa is still as threatened as it was before the war"

    Al-Queda is not around in the capacity they used to be. Sure, they&#39;re still around, but their organization is in complete disarray, their main leaders dead, caught, or so busy trying to hide they don&#39;t have time to come up with new terrorist plans. And besides that, if you&#39;re a young, impressionable Arab and you know that being in Al-Queda makes you an international target, are you going to be as likely to join up? I&#39;m sure Al-Queda&#39;s recruitment has suffered as well.

    "you could pick up any major conflict in the world and see that reacting to terrorism with extreme force (army) is a dead-end."

    Funny, you must not be watching the same newscasts and reading the same newspapers I am. The Taliban no longer exist, and anyone in Al-Queda is either dead, captured or running into other countries. Army or police force, it doesn&#39;t matter. Terrorism will always be around because you simply cannot root out every person willing to kill innocents to achieve their ends. It doesn&#39;t matter what kind of badge you slap on your police/military force, at the end of the day, SOMEONE (army, police, whatever) has to go in and get them. But you shouldn&#39;t say its a "dead end" simply because it doesn&#39;t neutralize the problem 100%. There is no 100% effective solution, be it diplomatic, militaristic, or otherwise.

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    7.62 W.O., I couldn&#39;t agree more.

    I believe that the Russians have already offered assistance in the form of troops and vehicles for the "war" in Afghanistan. But with one exception: the U.S. had to fork over the ca&#036;h.

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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Jan. 21 2002,18:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">During Russia war with Afghanistan I wouldn’t call the people-fighting terrorist I would call them freedom fighters. Of course funded by the US. You reap what you sow.

    Why should Russia bother help they are practically a 3rd world country the economy in shambles have the country ran by the Russia Mafia. The army useless for anything there a joke in the play of world power.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    I wouldnt wanna mess with their ICBM&#39;s ***[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    There is a good chance that 75% of them wouldn&#39;t work I know 25% is enought to blitz a large chunk of the world but all the same there really have no power in the play of the world any more.

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    The americans and russians work very closely with each other in peace keeping in Bosnia and kosovo.
    They have mixed the men together and it works very well apart from the amaricans dont seem to speak much russian

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