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    Excelent news on the upcoming pack.
    I know that the BIS supressed MP5 is diferent to the other weapons, because its supressed the AI don't heard it, but I tryed some other addons that their supressed version are only supressed for human players because the AI still can heard them firing like a non supressed weapon, I hope you are counting with that
    Good work mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (@cero @ June 01 2005,18:31)
    Excelent news on the upcoming pack.
    I know that the BIS supressed MP5 is diferent to the other weapons, because its supressed the AI don't heard it, but I tryed some other addons that their supressed version are only supressed for human players because the AI still can heard them firing like a non supressed weapon, I hope you are counting with that
    Good work mate.
    @CERO.
    Well the M4A1 SD is only experimental right now but it is not set to fire sub sonic ammo(due to the gas system on the M4 it will not reload if you fire a subsonic round) so actualy AI will be perfectly able to hear you shoot although it will be much less than normal rounds it will how ever not be able to see it. The BIS MP5 is set to use subsonic rounds if you use standard 9mm you will hear a lower than usual bang/crack because the round braks the sound wall when it leaves the barrel. And the sound suppressor on the M4 actualy increases the muzzel speed.
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    Cool addon STGN.

    I believe in real life the MP5SD does not function properly with subsonic rounds. However, when loaded with full power ammo it brings in down to subsonic velocity. Check
    HKPRO.com they say state that it brings the velocity down by about 200 fps.

    I think you know this but just in case you didn't. Suppressors don't silence more than they change the sound. Suppressors change the sound of gunshots into everyday noises. The MP5SD for example sounds more like a staple or nail gun than a gunshot, which is quiet and not suspicious. I have read reports that M16/M4 suppressors can reduce as much as 30db and make it sound more like a .22LR which is noticeable but on the battlefield very quiet and nonthreatening.

    Lastly, Finnish snipers famously used suppressors against the Nazi invasion have an old proverb dating back to the Winter War

    "A silencer does not make a soldier silent, but it does make him invisible."

    A good suppressor should elminate the visual and sonic cues that could subject the armed professional to effective counterfire from enemy personnel.

    Source: Guns & Weapons for Law Enforcement Volume 12 Number 2. - Silenced Sako TRG-42 .338MAG by Al Paulson.
    Source: HKPRO.com

    I also concur that a suppressor can increase velocity by acting as a barrel extension. Looking forward to your updates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (PraetorianV @ June 01 2005,19:59)
    Cool addon STGN.

    I believe in real life the MP5SD does not function properly with subsonic rounds. However, when loaded with full power ammo it brings in down to subsonic velocity. Check
    HKPRO.com they say state that it brings the velocity down by about 200 fps.

    I think you know this but just in case you didn't. Suppressors don't silence more than they change the sound. Suppressors change the sound of gunshots into everyday noises. The MP5SD for example sounds more like a staple or nail gun than a gunshot, which is quiet and not suspicious. I have read reports that M16/M4 suppressors can reduce as much as 30db and make it sound more like a .22LR which is noticeable but on the battlefield very quiet and nonthreatening.

    Lastly, Finnish snipers famously used suppressors against the Nazi invasion have an old proverb dating back to the Winter War

    "A silencer does not make a soldier silent, but it does make him invisible."

    A good suppressor should elminate the visual and sonic cues that could subject the armed professional to effective counterfire from enemy personnel.

    Source: Guns & Weapons for Law Enforcement Volume 12 Number 2. - Silenced Sako TRG-42 .338MAG by Al Paulson.
    Source: HKPRO.com

    I also concur that a suppressor can increase velocity by acting as a barrel extension. Looking forward to your updates.
    Hey thanks that cleared some things up for me(about the MP5) because I have seen a film of some cops shooting a criminal with a MP5SD and even though the camera was stationed 100-200 meters away you could easily hear the suppressed shots. I have also seen the films of the Sd where its much harder to hear that is becasue of the round you use if you use the light 115g standard 9mm you will hear the supersonic crack but if you use a heavyier and slower bullet the round has subsonic speed when it leaves the barrel.
    Again thanks.
    About the M16 the QD lower the sound with aprox. 30db but the waepon still has a 132db sound. if you want it to be so low as a 22 lr then you have to use a subsonic round which means no cycling.
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    I made it.
    http://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...D1X91HMTWOH2AT

    version 0.45
    added ACOG
    added a SD
    Updated and improved the cpp
    note the mission is the same as last



    I have futher explanation but im too tired right now so that will be tomorow.
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    Great progress STGN,

    About the db levels, I whipped out my Special Weapons for Military and Police 2004, which did an article on about 30 different .223 suppressors using M4s, M16s, CAR-15s and Ruger Mini-14s. It reminded me that the decibel scale is logarithmic rather than linear, so even a reduction in eleven dbs is significant. The author tested and measured the decibels to that of an air pistol, a Crosman Amercian Classic Model 1377, a .177 caliber air pistol, and it delivers between 120 and 123 dbs! An unsuppressed M4 gives off 164 db a M4 suppressed with a KAC (Knights Armament Company) M4QD suppressor delivers 132 db. That 10 to 12 db increase than an air pistol, though dbs are logarithmic. Subsonic ammo was also used in testing and it demonstrated an increase in reduction of 5 to 7 dbs compared to using full power ammunition with a suppressor.

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    Good looking weapon man. Is it possible to make one with the stock collapsed? Hardly anyone makes M4s for OFP with the stock collapsed. I carry an M4/M203 and I always keep the stock collapsed. Even when I qualify I keep the stock collapsed. Anyways, just an idea.

    Monty

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    Mirrors over at Opflashpoint.org


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    Details about the update:
    ACOG versions:
    I have had em done for some time and when manhunter09 said he missed some I included them in this pack. The only new thing I made was the ACOG scope picture. As you will see the reticle is very small and the field of view(FOV) is way too big. This is because the ACOG is a 4x optic and I've been told that 0.7xmagnification^-1 ***is the way to calculate it in OFP. But as it is now the scope is not posible to use to its full potential so in the future I am gonna make a scop which has a higher magnification but it will have the correct FOV so the sight picture will be the "same" just more clear and you will be able to use the bullet drop calculator. only difference betwheen this and the Ironsight version is that the ACOG version is zeroed at 100m.
    SD version:
    I have in this version included a suppressed M4 as you will notice is quit different from the unsuppresed M4, difference:
    The RPM has been increased when you add a suppressor to a direct impregnent M16 type rifle the RPM will increase I have increased it by aprox 100 I don't have eny concret data on this so it was a gues based on info on the M4 CQB version which had a dramaticly increas in RPM form aprox. 750 to 980+ with the suppressor added and since the M4 has a longer barrel I decited to have a lower increase. The recoil has be changed arcordingly to the new RPM and the fact that the suppressor works like a good muzzel breake and both reduces recoile and muzzel raise. Muzzel speed has also been increased with 15 mps this is because the suppressor works like a couple of mm added barrel. When you add a suppressor to the barrel you change the place where the bullets will hit, this is somthing the KAC QD AFAIK is not good at with a change radius from 4" to 12" so thats why I have Made the rifle inaccurate and it is now shoothing somthing like 8MOA it may sound of alot but actualy the carbine can be used out to 300 meters. I have also made the weapon react slower due to the added lenth and unbalance the QD add.
    Ironsight version:
    I have made them react slightly faster very little. AI now know whitch fire mode to use for surtan distances, I have made them capable to engage tagets at ranges up to 600 meters. They are also louder than a BIS M16 to the AI komme to think of it it might be to much it will problery be changed ***in next release.

    @PraetorianV
    Funny I have that article too. I am aware that db is calculated logarithmic this wil problery also mean that the sound settings in general will be changed a couple of times.

    @Monty67t
    Yes, enything in particular you would like? or just a Ironsight/m203 with colapsed stock? By the way is it because of your bodyamor you have it all the way in?

    @PureMassacre
    Thanks for the link and that is a great picture by the way. I have one thing to ask could you please remove versions after SD because there is only one SD gun.
    STGN

  10. #50
    hmm...nice, but in my opinion we don't need 1000 M4....we need more Civilian Objects to make combat more exciting!

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