A New AH-64 Pack

[Big Dawg KS]

Hi, I am Kyle Sarnik a.k.a Big Dawg KS, and I am working on a new AH-64 Apache pack.

You may think "why a new one when there are so many out there allready", but I am optimising this addon for all different sorts of SP and MP use. It will have a lot of effect scripts, many new models, ingame changable loadouts, different camo versions, many new and realisticly accurate weapons, and many other cool things.

I am starting this thread to show the community what I have been working on for the past few weeks. I am also hoping that any talented addon makers would want to consider joining me to work on this, and help me out in any way they can. I will be posting some pictures, but not all at once (too many *** ). This thread is also open to suggestions or comments or anything related that you want to post.

Now, here are the pictures:
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[ag_smith]

Do I really see a Sidewinder on the wingtip? ***
What other weapon loadouts are you planning to do?

Are these stock BIS textures? If so, please replace them with the ones made by Silesian!

[Nephilim]

thats why its an ah64 D

i spoil here already
kyle will use a script for me htat allows ur ah64 to drive on ground / taxiway

[Big Dawg KS]

Yes, sidewinders come on the wingtip by default, and 3 different weapons can go under-wing (this is for the longbow version):
AGM-114L Hellfire
Hydra 70mm Rockets
FIM-92A ATAS (Air To Air Stinger)

Currently the textures are normal BIS, but one of my reasons for starting this thread was in hopes of finding new resources for my addon, textures being a big one.

As for the taxi script, yes, I would like to keep that a secret for now *** . More details on that later.

[Uffz.Hellwig]

Amazing ! I hope it works in MP-Games , not only in SP-Mode.
Let me see : Sidewinders on the wingtips , Stingers @ pylons , AH-64D "Aircombat" *** *** ***

Other Loadouts : 16 x Hellfire or 76 FFAR or Multirole ? Nice !

Dualfiremode , Attack in a direct line , or "Top attack" , ***

Keep your good work in progress , thx for the nice pics !

Greetings , Hellwig

[Big Dawg KS]

Right on the money there Hellwig, yes Sidewinder wingtips and either, 16 hellfires, 76 rockets, or 38 rockets w/ 8 hellfires. I also decided to go w/ 4 ATAS + 8 hellfire, since it will be primarily optimised for CTI gameplay with the most amount of realism as possible, and also great SP support.

Also yes you are right about the hellfire fire modes, LOBL and LOAL will be available, LOBL fires directly at targets, and LOAL will climb first and decend on targets, also LOAL has a less chance of hitting its target and is more prone to losing control. Another neat feature is the addition of a laser designator, so player gunners can have some fun w/ a manual guided hellfire system

[ag_smith]

I'm asking because it's very uncommon to see A2A weapons on Apache and that's mainly Stingers (mounted on wingtips). That has been repeated a few times in Marco Polo's Apache thread that I suppose you're familiar with.

That's why I think you should use Stingers for you default loadout.

Honestly, the only time I've seen Sidewinders on Apache, was in Gunship2000 (classic PC game).

[Big Dawg KS]

Smith, yes It is sometimes uncommon on the old AH-64A apaches, but the longbow will probably become more able to fight air combat. I also have 2 great sources of research and they both state that the AIM-9L sidewinder can be fired from a special attached wing tip mount (BIS allready had it on their apache model but didn't use it).

Edit:
Here is a link:
http://www.voodoo.cz/ah64/aim9l.html
and another
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ah-64.htm

[Billabong81]

Honestly, the only time I've seen Sidewinders on Apache, was in Gunship2000 (classic PC game).

From Boeing's website:

Quote[/b] ]The Marine version would have not had the Chain Gun, but it would have been able to carry TOW antitank missiles, pods for Zuni 12.7 centimeter (5 inch) heavy unguided rockets, and AIM-9 Sidewinders air-to-air missiles (AAMs) or the Sidewinder anti-radar missile (SideARM), with the Sidewinders fitted to wingtip launch rails. Sidewinder qualifications were performed with the Apache in 1987 and SideARM qualifications were performed in 1988. The Marines really liked the Apache, but the Corps always tended to be the last in line for funding and the money simply wasn't there.

So I suppose there are Sidewinders sometimes .

[ag_smith]

@hooahman, You're missing the point, that, at the moment there's no such thing like USMC Apache. ***

Here's a quote of Shadow from this thread.

Quote[/b] ]The AH-64A can be fitted with Sidewinder-pylons on the wingtip, but they never use it. Like you guys say, it can only carry one Sidewinder on each wintip.
They were tested but never used.
The AH-64D has Stinger-pylons on each wintip as default, they are are rarely used. They only fit Stingers when they know they'll need it. The AH-64A has been tested with Stinger-racks, but they've never used them. The A-model does not have Stinger-pylons as standard.
AA-missiles are not standard payload on either models, but both can use them if needed.
The difference is; on the A-model you need to fit the pylons first before you attach the tubes. On the D-model you only attach the tubes and you're good to go.
It's obvious Boeing had AA-missiles in mind as standard payload on the D-model compared to the A-model. One of the difference between them is that the nav-lights on the A-model is on the wingtips. These have been moved up to the side of the engines on the D-model. I assume all that smoke and heat from missiles fired from the wingtip will dirty the glass around the light and overall shorten the lamps life-time.