USA Politics Thread - *No gun debate*

[Lauxman]

^^^ None of that will happen until the Republican party effectively dissolves, and all of these annoying right-wing Christians stop voting.

[GRS]

Yeah, they should all be just like you.

[Dekster]

(Reuters) - Anti-government extremists opposed to taxes and regulations pose a growing threat to local law enforcement officers in the United States, the FBI warned on Monday.

These extremists, sometimes known as "sovereign citizens," believe they can live outside any type of government authority, FBI agents said at a news conference.

The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard.

Routine encounters with police can turn violent "at the drop of a hat," said Stuart McArthur, deputy assistant director in the FBI's counterterrorism division.

"We thought it was important to increase the visibility of the threat with state and local law enforcement," he said.

In May 2010, two West Memphis, Arkansas, police officers were shot and killed in an argument that developed after they pulled over a "sovereign citizen" in traffic.

Last year, an extremist in Texas opened fire on a police officer during a traffic stop. The officer was not hit.

Legal convictions of such extremists, mostly for white-collar crimes such as fraud, have increased from 10 in 2009 to 18 each in 2010 and 2011, FBI agents said.

"We are being inundated right now with requests for training from state and local law enforcement on sovereign-related matters," said Casey Carty, an FBI supervisory special agent.

FBI agents said they do not have a tally of people who consider themselves "sovereign citizens."

J.J. MacNab, a former tax and insurance expert who is an analyst covering the sovereign movement, has estimated that it has about 100,000 members.

Sovereign members often express particular outrage at tax collection, putting Internal Revenue Service employees at risk.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...81600V20120207

[PELHAM]

There was a report in our news that caught my eye:
Obama - "I deserve a 2nd Term in office"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16913174
Not that I care either way but what an odd thing to say? Usually it's the voters who decide who is the most deserving. I would find it hard to vote for someone who tells me he is the most deserving.

[GRS]

I agree, though I find it hard to vote for someone so unfit of that position in the first place.

[NoRailgunner]

Faux pas

[froggyluv]

@Dekster: Shooting at Law Enforcement over traffic stops? Thats a pretty strong sense of entitlement those "Sovereign citizens" possess. Sounds more like treasonous, low life thugs to me....

[walker]

Hi all

In reply to PELHAM.

It is actually a very canny marketing trick, in fact nothing short of brilliant. Now it all becomes about whether President Obama saved the US economy from the Republican parties economic and military mistakes.

Kind regards walker

[GRS]

^Oh boy, this shit again.

froggy, they are morons, but after thinking about it, it sounds hardly more treasonous than the government itself. Still no reason to do it though.

[Tonci87]

Faux pas
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EPIC FAIL or children WIN