USA Politics Thread - *No gun debate*

[hardrock]

What I find really crazy is that, according to what was reported to me, catholic priests were adviced to praise Bush the sunday before the election, that he's the right one in the name of god and chosen by god to fight the evil in the world and such stuff . . . I mean that's totally weird!


So what? The so-called religious fundamentalists or, as others say, terrorists are fought by . . . religious fundamentalists?

[Pathy]

Quote[/b] ]They just don't get it, most Americans are moderates and are never (unless they are lied to) going to be on board with the radical left

But americans HAVE been lied to time and time again. But about half of them seem to be blinded by a love of Bush to realise it.

[havocsquad]

True, progress and change will never stop but there will always be a large conservative majority who will fiercely oppose it. That seems to be the tone in Russia and China as well.

I see no difference between right wing politics of ultra conservative Americans and Islamic religious leaders in the political system of Iran. The only difference is the U.S. Consitution prevents the government from taking domestic political prisoners. Otherwise the U.S. right now in its "class warfare" would be seeing massive numbers of protesters and critics of government actions being hearded into prisons.

Don't say it couldn't happen, yes it could and quite easily if such measures weren't implimented long ago in U.S. history to prevent such a mess.

[ericz]

Pet American liberal projects:

Social promotion in education: failing doesn't neccesarily mean you don't go on to the next grade level. Your parents can decide to "pass" you anyway. So much for standards.

Selective gender identity in education: Children grades K-12 can choose their sexual identity. If you feel more like a girl, you can go to the girls restroom among other things.

African -American slave reparations: Pay out millions of dollars to African Americans because they were brought to the U.S. as slaves.

Muli-lingual curriculum in public schools: Spend millions of taxpayer funds to teach public school curriculum in Spanish to a largely illegal immigrant children.

Thought police: Supplement or get rid of religion based moral standards and substitute socialist driven models of behavior. Just as the bible thumpers are trying to get rid of violent media or unacceptable (to them) popular culture, our oh so enlightened liberals are doing the same thing. Evidence recent Democrats on political talk shows that want to address the "moral values gap" by cracking down on violent video games, music and movies. Different group, same shite!

Just to name a few....not too mention that radical liberalism fosters effeteness in our society, something I absolutely believe is dangerous to our nation. Evidence anti-nationalist forces in America not to mention the rise of the American apologist.

[ericz]

Quote[/b] ]I see no difference between right wing politics of ultra conservative Americans and Islamic religious leaders in the political system of Iran. The only difference is the U.S. Consitution prevents the government from taking domestic political prisoners. Otherwise the U.S. right now in its "class warfare" would be seeing massive numbers of protesters and critics of government actions being hearded into prisons.

Most Americans don't understand that the struggle is not Secularist vs. Religionist, that is only one facet. The real struggle is between the socialist left and the capitalist right.

I for one don't agree that communist and socialist speech should be protected. In fact is should be banned in the U.S.A. Can you say New McCarthyism. If only the Republicans could understand that but they wont.

[Ex-RoNiN]

Pet American liberal projects:

Social promotion in education: ***failing doesn't neccesarily mean you don't go on to the next grade level. ***Your parents can decide to "pass" you anyway. ***So much for standards.

Selective gender identity in education: ***Children grades K-12 can choose their sexual identity. ***If you feel more like a girl, you can go to the girls restroom among other things.

African -American slave reparations: Pay out millions of dollars to African Americans because they were brought to the U.S. as slaves. ***

Muli-lingual curriculum in public schools: ***Spend millions of taxpayer funds to teach public school curriculum in Spanish to a largely illegal immigrant children.

Thought police: ***Supplement or get rid of religion based moral standards and substitute socialist driven models of behavior. ***Just as the bible thumpers are trying to get rid of violent media or unacceptable (to them) popular culture, our oh so enlightened liberals are doing the same thing. ***Evidence recent Democrats on political talk shows that want to address the "moral values gap" by cracking down on violent video games, music and movies. Different group, same shite!

Just to name a few....not too mention that radical liberalism fosters effeteness in our society, something I absolutely believe is dangerous to our nation. ***Evidence anti-nationalist forces in America not to mention the rise of the American apologist.

And because of this liberalism is bad?

[billybob2002]

Oh, boy.... http://www.werenotsorry.com/ ....thanks intel officer....

Quote[/b] ]
African -American slave reparations: Pay out millions of dollars to African Americans because they were brought to the U.S. as slaves.

Free money for me.... I agree with this!!!

[ericz]

Quote[/b] ]And because of this liberalism is bad?

Oh don't get me wrong, I value "progressive" as in responsible, accountable, demonstrable constructive policy reform. Not some leftist policy wonks fantasy experiments.

Personal anecdote: I attended an American history class which covered among other things the Lewis and Clark expedition. The way my teacher (feminist) taught it, the chapter should have been renamed the Sacagewa Expedition. Very little concerning Lewis and Clark, a lot about Sacagewa's (indian woman) essential role wth emphasis on her hardiness and ability to withstand the trials the men did. My question was, good for her and so what? Lets find out about the Lewis and Clark expedition....

Additionally, she refused to cover WWI, WWII or ANY war for that matter because she "didn't believe that war solves anything".

That sure seems like enlightened liberal thought to me, how about you?

[ericz]

Quote[/b] ]Free money for me.... ***I agree with this!!! ***

The check is in the mail!


I'll support it if you cut me in for half!

[denoir]

Most Americans don't understand that the struggle is not Secularist vs. Religionist, that is only one facet. ***The real struggle is between the socialist left ***and the capitalist right.

That's late 19th early 20th century thinking. Take a look at Europe - market economy (i.e capitalism) combined with a strong social agenda. Works very well.

Quote[/b] ]I for one don't agree that communist and socialist speech should be protected. In fact is should be banned in the U.S.A. Can you say New McCarthyism. If only the Republicans could understand that but they wont.

Are you serious?

Well, if you are, you would have liked Germany around 1939.