a different story

[spring-R]

i would like you to consider my story for Operation Flashpoint 2.
i think this is a fresh background story for OFP2 as it doesnt involve WWII, Vietnam, or Russians. as the story for OFP was fictional, so is this (well kinda)

it is the year 2003. the Taliban and all its remains are only to be found in history books. the various states/countries in the middle east are reasonably calm and peaceful. Afghanistan has a Democratic government. after some uneasy years of protesting, the Americans have moved their forces out. some radical extremists who are inspired by the Taliban's ideas see this as the perfect oppurtunity to overthrow the young and vulnerable Independant Democratic Government of Afghanistan. the surronding countries form MERA (middle eastern revolution army) and mobilise its army. surrounded , the IDGA (afghanistan) have no one to turn to as the USA have agreed to not have anything to do with their matters. the IDGA have resorted to the UN. seeing this, Australia and the remaining members of the UN have flown forces to the distressed IDGA in a peacekeeping project.

the russians are now the extrememists (MERA), the americans are now the Australians (and other UN members) and the resistance is now the outnumbered Afghanii army (IDGA).

so what do you think?
cheers

[Korax]

Errr... I'd like something non middle-east based please.

[Heatseeker]

Not bad but.. its kinda inspired on recent conflict and nobody would like to play on the MERA side.
We need the same base has OPF has, two big powerfull oponents with cool units and hardware.
spetsnaz and green berets
naval infantry and marine corps
T80 and abrams
Migs and F16's
etc, etc, etc... list is huge but we need two equaly balanced adversaries to keep things interesting and balanced, you wouldnt like to sit on top of a hill with a rpg7 while others take off F14's from an aircraft carrier would you? .

[Longjocks]

I'm all for a multi-national military game, but I hardly think that it would be a wise move to alienate the American market, being the size it is, or exclude the cool stuff they have/had. We can certainly remove the focus away from the super-powers, just don't exclude them.

I also must admit that although I'm not terribly sensitive to whether or not recent middle-eastern conflicts are represented in entertainment media, I am certainly sick to death of hearing about it, let alone having it pop up in the games I play. At least not as the main focus anyway. Let's just let Tom Clancy keep the terrorists and militant groups at bay for now.

[havocsquad]

I'm sure it will be a bunch of campaigns in different regions with reasonably involving storylines and a fair amount of "storyline" cinematics and character development to make it feel like you are playing in a movie instead of watching it.

At least one campaign needs to be against the classic "Evil Empire" government/military. My prime wish is it would be Korea as the setting for the long feared final military/political fight to the finish on determining whether democracy or Communism unites Korea.

If done very well, it could surpass the original CWC campaign's storyline and provide a new standard for gaming atmosphere experience.

I suggest they hire some good cinemtographers and a bunch of good symphonic composers/or use some great symphonic music already made that hasn't been overused.

[Heatseeker]

So you think they will make a fictional theme plus nam plus afghanistan plus kosovo etc .
My bet goes to the same old stuff, maybe fictional WW3, maybe the cold war never ended and the world found itself split betwean West and East, maybe Soviet union invaded Europe, maybe the remake of the 80's CWC stuff but with a diferent story and characters and a improved engine, realistic units and definetly more realism both in gameplay and missions. I think thats pretty much what is needed here, a improved new engine more optimised and capable of delivering better... everything .
The cold war is the perfect theme for a game like Flashpoint and the improved sequel OPF2, IMHO OPF2 without russian and american stuff wouldnt be the same, i would leave other conflicts material for possible expantions.

[savedbygrace]

The guys/gals behind the scenes at BIS undoubtedly invest pride into this title and I am confident that the same pride will carry over if not flood over into the future games of this same series. The latter years of the cold war erra would be great or Perhaps late 80s, early 90s when the Clinton office took over and ruined, I mean ruled the U.S military and made the cuts in their numbers. This would make way for a more diversified Nato with not so much but not too little U.S involvement. Maybe involving soldiers(or groups of soldiers) from different nations to form a close bond over the course of the game similar to that of Armstrong, Gastovski and the others. Maybe the soviet supplied Iraq was beginning to amass what they needed to become a threat to NATO and during a possible push towards the Soviet Union to capture the notorious General Guba(that we all swore was dead and discovered otherwise) we unveil Guba's next masterminded plan of terrorism through the Saddam loyalists. Something along these lines would serve the needs of all I think. Not excluding but not surrounding the super power nations, and at the same time involving more of the smaller(but not lesser) nations, It would maintain the NATO vs. Soviet theme with a twist of present day, it would be in or around Europe and maybe stray towards the middle east towrds the end or perhaps even trace Guba back to Korea(who know's-anything is possible with fiction). It could even take OFP to the cold snowy parts near russia and back down to the desert only to end up in the land of Korea. Whatever they decide to conjure is sure to be great so long as they maintain that essential freedom to roam and complete the tasks in diverse ways. I think also more tutorials or shortcuts in the mission editor or even a booklet with procedures on how to script(or make things happen) the OFP way would help ignorant wannabe mission editors like myself to better my creativity.

[WargamingNor]

Any of you read the Tom Clancy book "Red Storm Rising"?

Something along the storyline in that book would've been great. At least include the fighting in europe, Iceland and perhaps from Soviet/Moscow.

Maybe they could get Tom Clancy to write them a story...
(but with Clancy doing the writing, and as I said in the music thread, one of the bigshot movie composer doing the music...I think the budget for OFP2 would be pretty hefty...OFP 2 would probably cost more than VBS1 if it were to happen... but hey, a guy can dream can't he?)

[Sputnik Monroe]

Personally I'm tired of fighting the Russians. I see them as friends and brothers now. That being said, NATO vs Warsaw pact in a Fulda gap scenario is one of the most interesting scenarios. Though I think China is a suitable replacement for Russia as the opfor in a modern WW3 game. Heck you could probably have it be NATO and RF vs China.

Perhaps they could have several campaigns. One main grand campaign (45 missions like CWC) and several mini campaigns (10 to 15 missions). The mini campaigns would be different era's and wars. For example...

1. Main campaign superpower and/or alliance Vs another super power and/or alliance.
2. US mini campaign.
3. RF mini campaign
4. UK mini campaign
5. Brushwar mini campaign.
6. etc

[Sputnik Monroe]

Red Storm Rising would be an awsome campaign. Unfortunetly though UBI soft owns Tom Clancy.