Ai thread

[DayGlow]

For myself one of the biggest things lacking in all combat simulations is an ai with more 'human' like qualities. The ai in OFP is very good taticaly, using gernades and flanking manouvers, but it is still lacking suppressive fire.

I'd love to see LMG used as they are intended, to lay down fire to get the enemy to keep their heads down as you move. Nothing frustrates me more than having the ai cooly pick you off because your fire is landing all around them, but not quite hitting them. I'd love to see a 'fear for life' in the ai. Not blindly running into a stream of bullets, but actaully keeping their head down and staying in cover.,

It maybe very hard to impliment and would have a drastic effect on gameplay. Some would argue that the game would loose a lot of the 'fun factor' because firefights would be more drawn out and not always have a desisive victory. At the same time it would really help with fire and move tatics. I'd love to have a support element under my command and able to tell them to hit an area with suppressive fire as I manouver my other men to a better position.

What does everyone thing and what other improvements or changes to the ai they would love to see?

COLINMAN

[CoolCarlos2002]

I hate the way AI Choppers crash into each other, makes some mission impossible,

better driving, i hate the way the spin on a road when a groupe of trucks drive

[callihn]

I hate the way AI Choppers crash into each other, makes some mission impossible,

better driving, i hate the way the spin on a road when a groupe of trucks drive

DITO!

I'll also add that I hate spending twenty minutes telling them to get in the damn vehicle while they crawl around prone acting like retards until a plane comes and bombs us and ATs seem to have some issues with actually firing on vehicles, even when told to do so, the other day I sent two groups of eight ATs after one tank, one right after another, both groups died without firing a single shot, even though they were told to engaguge and even told to attack the tank, they still stood there looking at it until it mowed them down with it's machine guns. Another thing I don't like is AI contridicting me, when I tell them to do something I don't want to hear negative or no can do I want it done, I know we are taking fire too, that's I want them to get in the tank. Also they need to take smarter routes when flying, I hate for them to fly through the town and get shot down when I told them to go to a location well outside of town.

[jonny4568]

I hate the way AI Choppers crash into each other, makes some mission impossible,

better driving, i hate the way the spin on a road when a groupe of trucks drive

agree so annoying

[colt]

I was thinking about how BIS could implement suppressive fire the other day.

My idea:

Choose your machine gunner ***"F ?" then go to 'engage' or 'action' in the command menu and then have an option to 'suppress'. Once selected you right click and draw a window around the area you want him to fire on.

You could use a hot key to turn suppression on or off.

[Bullz_eye_on_my_back]

One thing I kind of noticed with chopers.... is that when the AI first take off or get a do move command.. they always initially fly up 50 meters no matter what you specify before taking off.. or you have to try and force it to stay at the specific height...

[Canukausiuka]

One thing I'd like to see (with a toggle option, perhaps) is emotional AI. Presently the AI works like a machine, following orders and w/o personality. The only thing I ever see them do similar to this is run away from time to time, but that's rare, and they don't go far, and they come back.

I'd like to see the AI have different personalities. Some would be agressive; attempt to engage the enemy quickly and generally toss a lot of lead in their direction. Some could always stick to cover and only pop out to shoot. Some could take their time in combat and aim well. Furthermore, I'd like to see their behavior affected by their situation. Demoralized troops could crack under fire, and just hide wherever they could, maybe even try to flee, or surrender. Also, the units shouldn't just obey orders blindly in combat.

I feel that this would make the game an even more realistic experience, because right now, even though the AI is good, they are a tad bit robotic in their actions. I'd like to see more human AI developed in OFP2.

Of course, we'd need options to set personalities, or to disable things like disobeying orders and emotions, but I think it would be well worth it.

[ran]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MSMS_KDXer @ April 25 2003,03:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">One thing I&#39;d like to see (with a toggle option, perhaps) is emotional AI. ***Presently the AI works like a machine, following orders and w/o personality. ***The only thing I ever see them do similar to this is run away from time to time, but that&#39;s rare, and they don&#39;t go far, and they come back.

I&#39;d like to see the AI have different personalities. ***Some would be agressive; attempt to engage the enemy quickly and generally toss a lot of lead in their direction. ***Some could always stick to cover and only pop out to shoot. ***Some could take their time in combat and aim well. ***Furthermore, I&#39;d like to see their behavior affected by their situation. ***Demoralized troops could crack under fire, and just hide wherever they could, maybe even try to flee, or surrender. ***Also, the units shouldn&#39;t just obey orders blindly in combat.

I feel that this would make the game an even more realistic experience, because right now, even though the AI is good, they are a tad bit robotic in their actions. ***I&#39;d like to see more human AI developed in OFP2.

Of course, we&#39;d need options to set personalities, or to disable things like disobeying orders and emotions, but I think it would be well worth it.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
nice idea , really nice
yes , the AI needs to be more emotionnal

[Crassus]

2--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (colt @ April 25 2003,012)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I was thinking about how BIS could implement suppressive fire the other day.

My idea:

Choose your machine gunner ***"F ?" then go to &#39;engage&#39; or &#39;action&#39; in the command menu and then have an option to &#39;suppress&#39;. Once selected you right click and draw a window around the area you want him to fire on.

You could use a hot key to turn suppression on or off.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
In sum: area fire, as well as point fire on inanimate objects. "Contact...Right Front...Enemy in the bushes....Light &#39;em up..."

(If you&#39;ve ever played either of the Combat Mission games, then you know how "sexy" area fire is, esp when tanks are throwing smoke into the treeline, and one of your platoons machineguns is throwing lead into that same treeline&#33; Mmmm... ***)

[bn880]

Yeah, even have a look at Ghost Recon and how much atmos supress fire adds. That reminds me, better sounds.