Graphics engine improvement

[bn880]

I created this thread to discuss anything about the entire graphics engine as a whole. (Of course I'm not an expert in this)

We were told BIS is working on pixel and vertex shading, this is extremely important if OFP2 is to look better but I'm worried about one thing:
improper use of this may rended the entire game to look pale and faded. Unrealistic like Raven Shield. If you don't know what I am talking about, go play the R6 Raven Shield Demo or full game and look at the colors. It's missing all bright clear colors. Even the fireworks look like a joke. I have seen this in other new games, I don't remember the titles, shading is nice, but it has to be limited and checked with real life appearance.

Also, as discussed before, I would like to see harware vertex tessellation/subdivision as supported by ATI,TRUFORM...
ATI's TRUFORM
General Surface subdivision
Pixel and Vertex Shading (ATI)
Pixel and Vertex shading

[SpeedyDonkey]

I dont think pixel and vertex shading is something that automaticly makes games unrealistic. My question is, how will vertex and pixel shading work in a large scale game like ofp2?

i was gonna write something about Bf1942´s water but i realized that was H/TL witch resistance allready has?

[bn880]

That's what I mean, I would appreciate (and we all will I'm sure) if BIS steps back and judges from time to time whether the result is realistic or simply too much fade.

Everything in moderation may be the key here, I'm not sure.

[Koolkid101]

I hope I won't have to buy an expensive video card.

[bn880]

This is one of the common misconceptions, just like the ability to play OFP on 3 seperate monitors with a special video card, and the ability to use 7.1 point directional sound, it would all be optional.

For instance with 1.91, if you have a 5.1 surround system, great, you play with it, if you don't you can play with stereo. Or H&L, if your card supports it you play in that mode, if it doesn't you play in another standard video mode.

[ArchangelSKT]

Maybe not 100% graphic related , but I hope to be able to move better indoors , of course you spend more time out in the open , but man I`ve had probs inside

[Heatseeker]

Yeah, Take that Black Hawk Down game for example, it uses lotsa pixel shadding efects and all that but overall it has too many low res. textures and its colors look cartoonish.

one thing bis should look into is light efects during the day, while opf looks amazing at night, and awsome during sunrise/sundown it looks a bit watercolored during the day .

[edc]

DFBHD has really good water effects, it actually looks and seems like water. I'd like to see that and also maybe DFBHD's swimming.

[AXE]

I hope they find a new way of texturing islands so
that we won't be stuck with the same bland generic
simple texturing. I would also like to see more realistic
terrain geometery so we could have ditches and foxholes.
right now the terrain is formed from 10m x 10m squares.
We also need MUCH MUCH more attention to basic
physics in the game. It sucks to see a tank do a huge
jump and land like a fluffy pillow - I want noise and
rattles and shaking! And the airplane aspect of the game
could use some more accurate physics, especially when
turning.
One major thing that should be totally redone is the
'Geometery" of the game. You can easily walk through
thin walls, you can get stuck inside objects inside the
houses, and worst of all the game only checks the
geometery if the object is moving!
There are tons of bugs and unrealistic shit in this game,
but the gameplay makes up for it. Imagine what this game
would be like if all these things were corrected... Could
be the best PC game yet...

[edc]

Even w/ those bugs its the best game yet.