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    Quote Originally Posted by (Badgerboy @ May 29 2003,22:26)
    To fuck the rest of the world? Hooray!
    This is my President

    Now what did you say about F***ing?




  2. #7372
    I stand corrected......

    Yikes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by (denoir @ May 29 2003,15:32)
    Where have all the "true American patriots" gone? You know - the ones that repeatedly said "I trust my President" or "We know Saddam has WMDs" or "Congress said that Saddam has WMDs so he must have WMDs" etc ***etc. You know the bunch.

    I'd like to hear some comments from them about Rumsfeld saying that Iraq destroyed the weapons before the war. Or how about Wolfowit's comments that the WMDs were just an excuse to get support for war?

    Where are those neo-cons that with disgust say "Clinton lied to the American people"? Kind of seems ridiculous now getting upset over him lying about a blow job compared to Bush lying to get his war.

    Where are your cries of outrage? Where are your demands for impeachment of Bush?
    Shhhh, there's important new developments in the Laci Peterson investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (denoir @ May 29 2003,21:32)
    Where have all the "true American patriots" gone? You know - the ones that repeatedly said "I trust my President" or "We know Saddam has WMDs" or "Congress said that Saddam has WMDs so he must have WMDs" etc ***etc. You know the bunch.

    I'd like to hear some comments from them about Rumsfeld saying that Iraq destroyed the weapons before the war. Or how about Wolfowit's comments that the WMDs were just an excuse to get support for war?

    Where are those neo-cons that with disgust say "Clinton lied to the American people"? Kind of seems ridiculous now getting upset over him lying about a blow job compared to Bush lying to get his war.

    Where are your cries of outrage? Where are your demands for impeachment of Bush?
    I know he had them. I'm sure he either hid them or detroyed them, who wouldn't have if they were in Saddam's shoes? I trust my president on his decisions because it's not his sole decision.

    neo-cons I like your name for republicans
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    Isnt that 'Mrs Doubtfire' (played by TVs Robin Williams)?

    'Neo-cons' are neo-conservatives. Not all Republicans are neo-conservatives (thankfully). Many neo-conservatives in fact used to be democrats ***

    Anyway ill bet my mouldy crabapple plenty of hardline right wingers are still too busy dreaming up insults for 'slick willy' Clinton to bother checking what their current wonderful Administration is patriotically doing in their name ***



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    Quote Originally Posted by (Die Alive @ May 29 2003,23:14)
    Quote Originally Posted by (denoir @ May 29 2003,15:32)
    Where have all the "true American patriots" gone? You know - the ones that repeatedly said "I trust my President" or "We know Saddam has WMDs" or "Congress said that Saddam has WMDs so he must have WMDs" etc ***etc. You know the bunch.

    I'd like to hear some comments from them about Rumsfeld saying that Iraq destroyed the weapons before the war. Or how about Wolfowit's comments that the WMDs were just an excuse to get support for war?

    Where are those neo-cons that with disgust say "Clinton lied to the American people"? Kind of seems ridiculous now getting upset over him lying about a blow job compared to Bush lying to get his war.

    Where are your cries of outrage? Where are your demands for impeachment of Bush?
    Shhhh, there's important new developments in the Laci Peterson investigation.

    -=Die Alive=-
    Touché

    Quote Originally Posted by (Harnu @ May 29 2003,23:14)
    I know he had them. I'm sure he either hid them or detroyed them, who wouldn't have if they were in Saddam's shoes? I trust my president on his decisions because it's not his sole decision.
    If he destroyed them before the war as Rumsfeld now says how do you explain Bush's all speeches about "Saddam has failed to disarm". And more of all, how do you explain Wolfowitz comments now that a huge reason was to get a new place to station the troops that are now in Saudi Arabia.


    I'm still shocked by that one. If anybody had mentioned that as a reason a while ago it would have been dismissed as a crazy conspiracy theory.

    They lied for the reasons of war to the world, to your Congress and Senate and to the American people. Doesn't that bother you?

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    In other news Blair visits Basra

    I found this interesting:
    "on Thursday, doubts were raised about the dossier of evidence the UK Government presented against Iraq last September.

    A senior British intelligence official told the BBC the original version of the document had added little to what was already publicly known, but that a week before it was published it had been "transformed" on the orders of Downing Street.

    The aim was to make the report more hard-hitting, the official told the BBC, adding that the intelligence services were unhappy about the changes."

    This seems to support what i said when intelligence reports were previously questioned, that the US and British governments have been highly manipulative in their presentation of intelligence information perhaps to the point of alienating intelligence workers and/or lieing

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    I admit that it would be nice to find an arsenal chock full of chemical warheads.

    In the meantime, I am satisfied with the 2 mobile bioweapons labs that have been discovered. They can have only one plausible function: to make bioweapons while evading UN inspectors.

    That is a violation of the Cease Fire terms of the first Gulf War and of the many, many UN resolutions.

    Saddam Hussein had no intention of honoring or complying with anything unless he got caught. His strategy was "Cheat and Retreat".

    In the era of WMD, we can't wait for the other guy to strike first. I am content to let history judge us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (Alkurta @ May 30 2003,00:23)
    I admit that it would be nice to find an arsenal chock full of chemical warheads.

    In the meantime, I am satisfied with the 2 mobile bioweapons labs that have been discovered. ***They can have only one plausible function: ***to make bioweapons while evading UN inspectors.

    That is a violation of the Cease Fire terms of the first Gulf War and of the many, many UN resolutions.

    Saddam Hussein had no intention of honoring or complying with anything unless he got caught. ***His strategy was "Cheat and Retreat".

    In the era of WMD, we can't wait for the other guy to strike first. ***I am content to let history judge us.
    This is not the point.

    The premis for war was the 'definative evidence' of WMD's capable of being armed within 45 minutes. Current events have shown this to be untrue, as all sites specified by Washington have been disproved.

    Effectively, your President lied to you, and I would think this would upset you a little.

    Additonally, read the post I added earlier. One of the reason for this war, was to stop WMD's falling into terrorist hands. Because of NO security at NUCLEAR STORAGE facilities, looters have nicked barrels of uranium, plus loads of research equipment. If this is preventing nuclear materials falling in terrorist hands, insanity does indeed prevail.

    Doesn't any of this concern you?

    Edit- Plus those 'bio-weapon' labs are suspected, not proved of research into bio weaopns.




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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]In the era of WMD, we can't wait for the other guy to strike first. I am content to let history judge us.
    The era? What bollocks! Seemed to have skipped the cold war eh? Your theory only would have ended with the destruction of humanity.

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