2 unfinished arguments,knives and body armour

[Renagade]

I`ve seeen a few argumentss on both these subjects but they were never resolved.

Over heree the main threeat to cops is being stabbed so they wear vests that look like padded t-shirts so it wqould be logical to assume that other body armour would easily stop a knife becuase they stop bullets too but someone was saying that knives can go through body armour becuase the knife tip and penetrate the the material wheras a bulletss blunter.

anyone got anything else on these arguments?

[Major Fubar]

Kevlar armour is design to stop projectiles, but offers little protection against cutting and stabbing weapons.

Armour with solid inserts would certainly be effective against knives, however.

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According to police in Dahlonega, Ga., ROTC cadet Nick Berrena, 20, was stabbed to death in January by fellow cadet Jeffrey Hoffman, 23, who was trying to prove that a knife could not penetrate the flak vest Berrena was wearing. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

[DarkLight]

If you know how bullet proof vests work, you&#39;ll know that most knives&#39;ll stab through it.
I&#39;d love to explain how they work but i don&#39;t think you&#39;ll understand cuz my english isn&#39;t very good...

[E6Hotel]

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Yep. While at the School of Infantry I watched another Marine drive a Ka-bar through both sides of a flak jacket with very little effort.

Semper Fi

[Major Fubar]

Here is the latest in high tech anti-knife defence:

[Renagade]

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Battle axe and morning star optional extras

Well they must use a different kind of material on the stab prrof vests that the cops here have but i did find some gloves claiming to be slash proof and made from kevlar

[Maraudeur]

Do bullet proof jackets protect from knives and bladed objects ?

-Kevlar => No
-Spectra => Yes
-Others materials => from No to " a little ".

But, BUT, Kevlar and others protect from cuttings, but absolutely not frompoint attacks, no more for syringes, screwdrivers etc.

So commercials for kevlar gloves that protect are half true, half false.


Do people fly away when hitted by bullets ?

No.

If you want I can shoot .44mag or 12gauge at you wearing a bullet proof vest, you&#39;ll feel a strong shock that&#39;s all. And if not wearing vest, the incoming object will give near zero back impulse to the hitted=>penetrated subject.

[ran]

maraudeur , what&#39;s your profession exactly ?
you&#39;re right about the tactical protection materials

[RED]

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I think I will pass on that one thanks

RED

[ran]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RED @ Nov. 09 2002,16:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">4--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Maraudeur @ Nov. 09 2002,164)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you want I can shoot at you a .44mag or 12gauge at you wearing a bullet proof vest, you&#39;ll feel a strong shock that&#39;s all. And if not wearing vest, the incoming object will give near zero back impulse to the hitted=>penetrated subject.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I think I will pass on that one thanks

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i&#39;m i remember correctly , the GIGN operatives fire on all the new members of their unit wearing a ballistic protection vest with their magnum revolvers as "welcome" sign