AI accuracy has been higher lately, again, I guess, some time ago they had difficulties to hit when the enemy was far. I'm not sure. Maybe.
At 400 meters a rifleman may not see you or try to shoot you back, unless you dance around a while.
But when they do detect you, it's too often one shot, one hit. That shot may not usually kill you and you have time to try to shoot back .. unless there are more than one lucky-guess-sharpshooter AI.
At 300 meters you can quite easily hit/kill an enemy if he is standing up and not moving. It's a lot more difficult to hit when he is prone facing you and shooting back.
Still ...for AI, it seems like the opposite. I dare to say you live longer if you are standing, instead of laying low.
I did test (at airstrip), 2 AI riflemen 300 meters away, facing you.
They notice you immediately and start shooting.
If you stand still, average life expectancy was 15-30 seconds. Results varied a lot, from 10 seconds to 4 minutes 20 seconds
If you went prone right away, you died in 5-10 seconds. Every time.
With one AI, the results were more even, but still you had better chances standing still. Well, atleast when prone, you are able to try to shoot and kill the minimal target ..and pray for the lucky shot. Which won't happen, because before you can "zoom" and have a good aim, you are dead.
What are the default values for the precision parameters?
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Feedback tracker issue:
- AI group cohesion deteriorates in prolong firefight
- Stealth behaviour and Combat behaviour is too much alike - need to differentiate between the too
Please Azzur, create a repro for the behaviour you are observing. This looks like a serious issue.
0013952: An AI unit refuses to engage a distant target when ordered to or runs far away
This is an old issue, it was already like this in ArmA2
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and current beta build.
Hopefully you'll find some.
I didn't think repro helps much in this case. It was so basic 1 (or 2, grouped) AI riflemen against 1 player rifleman at measured distance (300) on the (Stratis) airstrip.
No waypoints, no obstacles. Aligned and facing eachother.
Unit skill at half way (editor edit unit), difficulty veteran, enemy AI skill 0.85.
- And the results varied a lot, maybe too much to draw any conclusions, other that laying low doesn't have any advantages, on the open airstrip.
That is not exactly a normal game situation.
I would think that it is harder to hit a smaller target, but (on that hard flat surface) AI was as lethal no matter what my stance was.
Skill settings, personal difficulty settings, I don't know how much effect they have in this. Maybe I should lower them.
And normally you wouldn't lay on the airstrip receiving bullets.
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The goal will be to overhaul the way configuration options are presented to different groups - players and mission makers - giving us a more predictable test-bed and mission makers a more meaningful (and better described) set of configuration options. I'll share an extract from the initial analysis. Please share any general reactions.
Work is a bit delayed on this for a few reasons (like TF Radio Protocol, such work requires a cross-departmental task force - UI, Program, QA, Sandbox Design) but the thought is that it will be, in the long run, beneficial to finally lock down these fundamental aspects of AI so that the ongoing tweaks and refinements can be implemented and tested with more confidence. The AI (like some other aspects of the game: video options, etc) is really an incredibly powerful beast, but massively complex to fine-tune. We need to cast a splendid new light on the basic inputs to better unlock the potential of the AI in the wild.
Last edited by RoyaltyinExile; Oct 8 2013 at 17:31.
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