Syria - What should we do if anything?

[Mattar_Tharkari]

@oxmox - Western Journalists go to Syria all the time - they are just very careful about advertising their presence because Assad's militias kill any they find (long list here (some killed by rebels - most by Govt forces) - not complete as several westerners have been kidnapped by Assad militia and their location/state of health is unknown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rian_civil_war). So you hear about reports from "sources" not "our eyewitness reporter" because the reporter wants to keep his eyes safe and not have them gouged out which seems to be the signature punishment dished out by Assad's henchmen.

Looking through the zionist, NWO controlled western media (lol) you will see many recent eye witness video reports. One I remember recently showed very clearly Assad's helicopters dropping 45gal barrels filled with TNT on homes filled with refugees. So try the "people in London/New York are terribly uninformed by their western media" yet again, it never gets old.

[ProfTournesol]

The Assad regime and most of people with power in this country exist mainly of Alawites and not Shia, which got into power due colonial influence. Sunnis represent with almost 90% the majority of the muslims in the world. Of course not all opposition groups are Jihadists/Islamists, but they gain more influence. There are quarrels between the different opposition groups.

Allawites are Shias and are backed by Shias factions or countries in the whole area (Lebanon, Iran, Irak etc.).

[oxmox]

Allawites are Shias and are backed by Shias factions or countries in the whole area (Lebanon, Iran, Irak etc.).

Yes, you are right and I thought I will post more about it after I did re-check and read about it. Its said that Alawites are close to the Shia but it is controversial if they are actually real muslims. They are actually an esoteric sect who practice their religion quiete different in comparison to our view on Islam. Parts of the muslim dont accept them as true muslims. But religious shia leader in Iran did officially recognize them only some decades ago in the 70ies.

They celebrate certain christian festivals like christmas eve, easter,... they prey rather at home or outside instead of a mosque. They drink wine within their zeremonies, they eat during Ramadan and they dont follow the Sharia.

Its quiete interesting.

[Tyrsero]

I might be wrong, but through reading this topic, apparently both sides of the conflict are bad, because they kill civilians and journalists.

That might sound wrong, but if that's what happens in Syria, then why not just leave them sort this out? If they don't want any western countries to know that then we should leave them alone aswell.

[Mattar_Tharkari]

I might be wrong, but through reading this topic, apparently both sides of the conflict are bad, because they kill civilians and journalists.

That might sound wrong, but if that's what happens in Syria, then why not just leave them sort this out? If they don't want any western countries to know that then we should leave them alone aswell.

If this was to be left to the Syrians to sort out I would say fine, it's a civil war, an internal problem. However, from the start it's not been that simple. Iran and Russia propped up Assad, supplying weapons, intelligence and troops (Iranian) and prevented the UN from doing anything meaningful, the Turks & Arabian Arabs began supplying the rebels with all sorts of equipment and Sunni Jihadists soon followed from all over the world. The West decided to support the majority and give the rebels non-lethal & humanitarian aid, intelligence and support at the UN.

Look up Iranian flights carrying weapons / troops. Used to go over Turkey till they were intercepted, now fly over Iraq without inspection.

There are many fingers in the Syrian pie and it's probably gone too far for a cease fire or peace. Too much blood letting. The Iranians will not stop what they are doing so no one else will either. Where this ends up is anyone's guess - I predict regional war but who knows? No easy answers. It really isn't just a Syrian problem, it's part of a much wider conflict between Sunni and Shia factions who slaughter each other in many different countries, e.g. Iraq & Pakistan.

[oxmox]

It doesnt look much different from a different view. Arabic countries are supporting rebels with weapons, foreign fighters take part in the fights. The US/west are supporting discretional, training rebels, sending money, take part in decisions which of the rebels get the weapons or other goods.

btw...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...93814Y20130409



Its some kind of proxy war aswell, in general a quiete complicated conflict. Some countries of the west i.e. USA,Israel are very interested to weaken the Iran and therefore to crash the shia-axis. The power play between shias and sunnis are therefore acceptable and countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar or Turkey get their support. Russia has an important military harbour in Syria and already during the cold there was a cooperation with this country.

That might sound wrong, but if that's what happens in Syria, then why not just leave them sort this out? If they don't want any western countries to know that then we should leave them alone aswell.

Because, the whole middle/far east is an inferno where political, geopolitical and strategical interests play a role since more than hundred years, plus the situation of Israel.