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    One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

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    One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
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    Terrorism is the systematic use of terror, especially as a means of coercion. In the international community, however, terrorism has no universally agreed, legally binding, criminal law definition.
    First part of first sentence is terrorism as I understand it. By this definition they are terrorist no matter on which side you stand. Killing civilians and using the victims for anti-Assad propaganda has nothing to do with fighting for freedom.

    Some news: https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/201...list.html?_r=1
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    Quote Originally Posted by batto View Post
    First part of first sentence is terrorism as I understand it. By this definition they are terrorist no matter on which side you stand. Killing civilians and using the victims for anti-Assad propaganda has nothing to do with fighting for freedom.
    It has to do with regime change though. That's what they're up to. Nato is desperately searching for an excuse to intervene. The USA has done it inumeral times since after WWII. So I'm not wondering at all. People love being brainwashed by mainstream media.
    I agree in any case with your statement it has nothing to do with fighting for freedom it has to do with favouring interest of the World elite.
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    This current crusade is simply to remove all sovereignty from any remaining states and to convert to a democracy, which in turn is papal rule which in turn leads back to Rome, hence crusade.

    What we get to see is the demonise stage show with destabilisation and smoke and mirrors (the terror card) for finger pointing and feel safer as it progresses, fun times, well .. not really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcash2009 View Post
    This current crusade is simply to remove all sovereignty from any remaining states and to convert to a democracy, which in turn is papal rule which in turn leads back to Rome, hence crusade.
    So you're against a Unified Global Civilisation built on trade, not religious superstitions, which had been dividing Mankind for Eons?

    Here's a Russian propaganda vid, dated April 17, 2012,

    Display of confiscated weapons from the Free Syrian Army




    This clown talks about origins of specific weapon systems, the abundance of SATNAV communication systems present in FSA and so forth. I hope, the C.I.A. will provide even more weapons to the fighters, but more crucially -- up-to-date intel on enemy movements. Perhaps, they could divert a few personnel (non-agent) assets to the cause from around the region as well.

    This is all we can do at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iroquois Pliskin View Post
    So you're against a Unified Global Civilisation built on trade, not religious superstitions, which had been dividing Mankind for Eons?
    I sure as hell am.

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    With the current economic crisis, over a decade of war and current cutbacks there does not exist either the will or resources to "intervene" (whatever one means by that) and this is not taking into consideration the different geographical and political situation of Syria to that of Libya. The US military is scaling down and re-orienting itself to the Pacific region as its primary focus. The British military is about to go through another round of cuts that will effect all branches. The capabilities of the British military are less now compared to a year ago. I assume the French military is also going through cuts.


    I miss the days when this place was not filled with conspiracy theorists and you could actually learn something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snafu View Post
    I miss the days when this place was not filled with conspiracy theorists and you could actually learn something.
    1. What conspiracy theories?
    2. Do you really believe that current hype about Syria has anything to do with freedom for Syria?


    I'm selfish rotten westerner used to my current lifestyle and I'm scared of anything that could change it. If the plan of western world elites is to have some advantage over other powers in future then... well, the world is f*cked up, it's better to enjoy it alive as much as possible. I'll live with boold on my hands for supporing it. What disturbs is how are western media lying and manipulating people. Majority of western people will live with honor for supporting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batto View Post
    What conspiracy theories?
    They are throughout the thread - "media brainwashing you", "planned for years", "CIA", "world elite" and so on.

    Do you really believe that current hype about Syria has anything to do with freedom for Syria?
    My point is unrelated to the one you are making here. I was responding to claims that there's a desire to intervene which clashes with what's happening at the moment. Thus a military intervention by NATO is unlikely given the current circumstances:

    - Cutbacks in military spending in the nations of NATO that can project power overseas
    - The seriousness of the economic crisis has made it priority
    - Little support for another war after over a decade of it in the Middle East and Afghanistan
    - Re-focus of reduced US military and political assets to the Pacific region

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