Line Of Sight (Example Thread)

[tpw]

Thanks Froggy, that sort of feedback is precisely why people write stuff for this game. With suppression & LOS & ASR you definitely can't be blase during missions!

Thanks again to BIS for bringing us the new LOS commands, and to SaOk for showing how to use them. Also, Zonekiller's FSM approach incorporating LOS is bloody awesome!

So I've recently been playing CWR/Red Hammer Campaign with this, Suppression script and latest ASR enabled. One thing thats definitely different is that twice now (two missions in a row) my entire squad (7-8) men have been wiped out by one well placed enemy -most likely because they cant get visual on him. In all honesty, both times the enemy AI was well concealed:

1st: An enemy that was kneeling and barely exposing himself out of a building at maybe 70m after truck disembarkment - he took out my guys without them really returning a shot and when I finally saw that fleshy 2 pixels in the window -blam! I was shot as well.

2nd: Approaching a large house (maybe 200m out) with trees in front and some construction equipment off to the side, again 1 gunman pinned my squad down and he hit 2 -3 of us without much if any return fire. Feels strange to not have my AI immediately shoot back when under fire (almost broken) but then I thought - let me hold my guys here and go snoop this guy and see wheres hes hiding. I did a long roundabout the house and finally found the lone gunman under a construction girder, behind a bush and 2 trees (from where my men were concerned) -no human player would have seen this guy either!!

This is leading to a different (and much preffered) type of gameplay. Often, I feel left out or not that interetsted when firefights break out between my squad and enemy AI at 200m+ merely because I cant see the way they see so I just try my best to feel involved. Now, I need to determine what angle to send my men out so that they can get LOS - exciting stuff

[Kremator]

Nice update ZK ! This is really shaping up.

See what talented programmers can do !

Now if we had a really good FindCover system that actually worked we would be totally sorted! AI running from cover to cover, pushing towards an objective, or being pushed back from cover to cover would be amazing.

EDIT: A thought has just occurred to me. I remember seeing a script once upon a time, that gave a ROUGH visual indication of where your troops were looking (towards an enemy). The higher the knowsabout the tighter that indication was, however it was never pinpoint accurate. That way humans could be looking in the right area (instead of relying on clock positions - which aren't great!) Can anyone remember the addon/script ?

[Zonekiller]

AWWW SHUCKS THANKS GUYS

I have edited my earlier post to point out all my findings - the headache stuff -
so if your writing some LOS scripts do flick back and save yourself a lot of time wondering why
things are not working the way you thought it sould.

PS. i do love them tracers from the GUNSHIPS - thats why i set the time at just before dark -

[Orcinus]

AWWW SHUCKS THANKS GUYS

This is one of my 2 top-priority threads, though I haven't been able to contribute a damn thing

Looking forward ti trying this out in a few days time (unless I'm totally asleep)

Shit, the way people are churning out new mods & addons recently, will we need A3? /jk

[CameronMcDonald]

Nice stuff, ZK - any chance of seeing an addon variant of a hopefully combined effort (i.e. your work and tpw's)?

[Kremator]

Nice stuff, ZK - any chance of seeing an addon variant of a hopefully combined effort (i.e. your work and tpw's)?

Sooner than you think . Insider info! Shhhhh

[tpw]

Sooner than you think . Insider info! Shhhhh

Oooh, do tell...

ZoneKiller, drop me a PM if you are interested in combining forces on an addon.

[Kremator]

Together with your suppression scripts this would be AWESOME !111eleven

Of course being able to pause ASR_AI if necessary would be required wouldn't it ?

[Zonekiller]

@tpw sounds like a good idea PM sent

[Dwarden]

note:
since build 94049
+ terrainIntersect reverted back to ATL
+ added terrainIntersectASL