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    Will Bohemia finally improve ARMA's PVP to attract New Players?

    Will they FINALLY make on online mulitplayer that will compete with those titles? As of now their game is far above those two. However I don't understand the business decision to not even try and compete in the lucrative online PvP multiplayer? They leave it up to random individuals with low populated servers. PLEASE try. You have the game, just build it!!!
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    You do realize that CoD and BF are popular in MP simply because anyone can play it at random servers due to their extremely primitive gameplay and a complete lack of teamwork?

    ArmA at its core can't be played like that. Besides why would you want to play ArmA like that? This game is about teamwork and tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalcraze View Post
    You do realize that CoD and BF are popular in MP simply because anyone can play it at random servers due to their extremely primitive gameplay and a complete lack of teamwork?

    ArmA at its core can't be played like that. Besides why would you want to play ArmA like that? This game is about teamwork and tactics.
    I thought you can play ArmA any way your want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LockDOwn View Post
    Will they FINALLY make on online mulitplayer that will compete with those titles? As of now their game is far above those two. However I don't understand the business decision to not even try and compete in the lucrative online PvP multiplayer? They leave it up to random individuals with low populated servers. PLEASE try. You have the game, just build it!!!
    no thanks, if people want BF's or MW's multiplayer then the solution is simple-go and buy BF and MW (like i did btw). however, don't spoil arma with their "War is cool, let's start runnin & gunnin" approach. I perfectly understand that kids like the notion that war looks cool, but Arma is something different in it's very essence. Arma makes it plain clear (both in SP and MP) that war is an ugly place where one reckless move means game over. so, i don't think we need BF's MP clone. much more important (and useful for selling) is to make Arma look graphically stunning like modern games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalcraze View Post
    You do realize that CoD and BF are popular in MP simply because anyone can play it at random servers due to their extremely primitive gameplay and a complete lack of teamwork?

    ArmA at its core can't be played like that. Besides why would you want to play ArmA like that? This game is about teamwork and tactics.

    This, this, this, holy shit this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalcraze View Post
    You do realize that CoD and BF are popular in MP simply because anyone can play it at random servers due to their extremely primitive gameplay and a complete lack of teamwork?

    ArmA at its core can't be played like that. Besides why would you want to play ArmA like that? This game is about teamwork and tactics.
    So explain to me how DayZ a game which flourish teaming up with people has made BI a HUGE chunk of cash due to that mod?

    My point is that teamplay has nothing to do with popularity of a game. if a game is good and unique, people will buy it regardless if its team orientated or not.

    DayZ mod still uses the same mechanics of Arma 2. its just that it has zombies to contest with and persistant online saving of your character. thats it.

    the realism and physics are still there.

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    What i would love from Arma 3 is more of a PvPvPvE type game where you have multiple factions either fighting eachother or teaming up together to take down the AI.

    Why does a game have to be either PVe or PVP? why cant a game have multiple factions/sides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoog View Post
    Besides, how would you even know its impossible if you only play arma, il-2 and dcs series hehe
    hehe, you are probably right, tho i try out some new games from time to time ; ) but still stuck with these ^

    Quote Originally Posted by jonneymendoza View Post
    So explain to me how DayZ a game which flourish teaming up with people has made BI a HUGE chunk of cash due to that mod?
    hell if i know, most likely when people read/hear the word "ArmA" they imagine overcomplicated extremely hardcore military simulator which can run only on NASA supercomputers, while the game is plain simple and not that scary when you get hang of it.

    and when they read/hear "mod" "Zombies" they imagine stuff like garrys mod/day of defeat/left4dead, and after all these youtube videos/whatever they come up with straight idea that dayz is a new "stalker", thinking like this mod is very distant from original ArmA, while... VVV
    Quote Originally Posted by jonneymendoza View Post
    DayZ mod still uses the same mechanics of Arma 2. its just that it has zombies to contest with and persistant online saving of your character. thats it.
    but how many people know that?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonneymendoza View Post
    What i would love from Arma 3 is more of a PvPvPvE type game where you have multiple factions either fighting eachother or teaming up together to take down the AI.

    Why does a game have to be either PVe or PVP? why cant a game have multiple factions/sides?
    ever played warfare? this is exacly pvpvpve you are talking about


    aaaaanyway

    ArmA always needed (and still need) more promotion of it's benefits and showcase gamemodes and mods on youtube, so casuals will see that game is awesome, but not their average cod/bf. when you see a massive assault with 5-7 helicopters over your head, tanks entering the town, lavs, cars, planes shooting rockets while you and your squad mates rushing into town with chaos all around and commander yell on radio to move, this is not what you can see/experience in any other games. the point is to show it right, to make it obvious that arma is huge scaled and epic
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    Quote Originally Posted by n7snk View Post
    hehe, you are probably right, tho i try out some new games from time to time ; ) but still stuck with these ^


    hell if i know, most likely when people read/hear the word "ArmA" they imagine overcomplicated extremely hardcore military simulator which can run only on NASA supercomputers, while the game is plain simple and not that scary when you get hang of it.

    and when they read/hear "mod" "Zombies" they imagine stuff like garrys mod/day of defeat/left4dead, and after all these youtube videos/whatever they come up with straight idea that dayz is a new "stalker", thinking like this mod is very distant from original ArmA, while... VVV

    but how many people know that?



    ever played warfare? this is exacly pvpvpve you are talking about


    aaaaanyway

    ArmA always needed (and still need) more promotion of it's benefits and showcase gamemodes and mods on youtube, so casuals will see that game is awesome, but not their average cod/bf. when you see a massive assault with 5-7 helicopters over your head, tanks entering the town, lavs, cars, planes shooting rockets while you and your squad mates rushing into town with chaos all around and commander yell on radio to move, this is not what you can see/experience in any other games. the point is to show it right, to make it obvious that arma is huge scaled and epic

    so you agree with my point then

    Anyways yea i tried warfare at launch but it died down quite fast. they need to work on the CQC in this game in order for PvP to be more appealing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalcraze View Post
    You do realize that CoD and BF are popular in MP simply because anyone can play it at random servers due to their extremely primitive gameplay and a complete lack of teamwork?

    ArmA at its core can't be played like that. Besides why would you want to play ArmA like that? This game is about teamwork and tactics.
    I fully agree with this post.

    However the ARMA series is quite versatile from an end-user perspective, I would consider any broad scale effort to make fundamental changes to the gameplay to attract more players from those demographics a complete betrayal of the game's core supporters.
    Last edited by Pd3; May 31 2012 at 04:46.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalcraze View Post
    You do realize that CoD and BF are popular in MP simply because anyone can play it at random servers due to their extremely primitive gameplay and a complete lack of teamwork?
    ArmA at its core can't be played like that. Besides why would you want to play ArmA like that? This game is about teamwork and tactics.
    Agree and disagree...

    Agree, ArmA certainly is about teamwork and tactics...

    However, many of us get quickly bored to death doing COOPs since AI isn't that much real... I mean, you see them from far distance, you shoot that little bot... it turns 360 degrees around, then it crouches, then stands up again, running a bit, then loop: it turns 360 degrees around... I am always wondering why guys do not get boring chasing some unbelievable enemies... on the other hand, I've seen bots doing headshots with AK and one single shot at 500+ meters from distance... unbelievable also...

    IMO nothing compares to real human instant response... then I really feel I'm simulating a firefight, planning combat tactics, warfare, you know...

    So, I disagree with you when AI becomes the core of simulation... for me it's just an optional module, which is fine and, of course, is ok for single player fun... but, again, I can't see much teamwork over there... I mean it sound weird... AI teamwork gameplay... (?)

    I expect a real warfare simulation with hordes of troops... real human troops... in the meantime, I'll keep helping out PVP and teamwork oriented and like minded guys regarding this matter...

    Saludetes!



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