Mi24-A, Krokodil

[Pathetic_Berserker]

I just downloaded this and had a fly around in it. It's awesome! I don't know why, but the A version of the Mi-24 is my favourite and this mod does it great justice.

I read on the previous page that you didn't think you had time to put this mod into ToH. I was wondering, now that it's a few months on, is there any chance you'd be able to put this into ToH, using the Hind flight model? If not, would you consider putting it into Arma 3 when it comes out? I'd love to fly this with the new helicopter flight model.

Anyway, great work and thanks so much for making and releasing this

Your welcome, and I'm glad you like it.

Re TOH, its realy more that I don't know where to start. I don't think there has been a single 3rd party chopper released yet specificaly for TOH wich I think indicates a lack of documentation and a diminishing knowledge base amongst the modding community at large. The fact that I could get even my project into A2 is because what little scripting knowledge I have can ride on the shoulders of those that came before me.

So it realy comes down to whether BIS takes the time to release some documentation and examples. The RV engine is simply to much to chew for a lone hobbyist. But it's only 'hobby' time that goes towards MODS/addons, therefore I'm predicting that the modding scene will slow to a trickle before to long. Still I'm remaining positive that they will release something to keep the scene alive for A3. So hopefully there will be an A3 re-release, with new filght model, maybe a few geo modeling inaccuracies ironed out. But I think TOH unlikely without a proven config'r to take over.

[markb50k]

Great helicopter. Love the color schemes on all the countries versons.

[Max Power]

They already released documentation and examples... Like a year ago.

[Pathetic_Berserker]

^^
Ah, ok I found the first samples package released in Jan but I think I’ll need the newer one with the hinds template in it, ‘promised’ in March, as per this thread

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthrea...mplate-request

Though I'm still curious if somethings missing here (I know for me it will probably be the time) but I still can't find a single 3d party TOH chopper?

[Max Power]

AFAIK, Rotorlib is quite tricky. There have been community mods done by pilots, though.

I think the missing thing here is helicopter take a hell of a long time to make... there have been custom helicopter mods announced, but AFAIK most were using models from ripping sites. Couple that with the smaller, younger Take On community, plus even higher demands on detail both in the model and in the flight model, and I think you'll see that the chance of a custom helicopter emerging from that community per year is much lower than that of ArmA 2. I would buddy up with someone who has already done some RotorLib tweaking and is familiar with the xml files and you might have the first custom helicopter in Take On. Then, if you want to make it all fully Take On style, you just have to animate all of your dials, controls, model the access panels and engines... figure out the component damage system... place all of the points for examining each piece, however that's done... haha. It already sounds like a lot of work, and you and I both have helicopter models waiting.

[GossamerSolid]

Hey Beserker,

I have been working with the MLOD you've sent me. I noticed that I can do backflips and 360s really easy mid-air with this thing. Do you intend to tweak the flight model a bit more or did you want me to give it a try? I understand how hard it can be to deal with flight models as I'm dealing with the Mig-29 that I have right now. It's really hard to get it the way you want it to be.

Other than the flight model, it's a freakin amazing model. It's so highly detailed, I can't wrap my head around how much time it must have taken you!

[Pathetic_Berserker]

Hey Beserker,

I have been working with the MLOD you've sent me. I noticed that I can do backflips and 360s really easy mid-air with this thing. Do you intend to tweak the flight model a bit more or did you want me to give it a try? I understand how hard it can be to deal with flight models as I'm dealing with the Mig-29 that I have right now. It's really hard to get it the way you want it to be.

Yeah go for it, I think its reasonable you make any changes you feel necessary to fit in with your pack.

Other than the flight model, it's a freakin amazing model. It's so highly detailed, I can't wrap my head around how much time it must have taken you!

Wouldn't hazard a guess, but for something that was meant to be a 'hobby' the hours are obssesive, scary levels, maintained over a couple of years.
But I feel in this case it was worth it. AFAIK it's still the the most detailed CG 3d model of a Hind-A around

[opffever]

Any chance this baby get some countermeasure flares and or a missile warning system?

[b00ce]

Probably not. The Mi-24A never had CMWS and I doubt it even had flares. Heat seeking missiles weren't really a problem when this thing was made. The hind didn't get any countermeasures until the war in Afghanistan, by then the A model had been phased out.

[Pathetic_Berserker]

^^As b00ce said. Though I'm supposing from photographic evidence that I've seen, it was the last of the Russian Hind-A's that were first 'on the ground' when they moved into Afganistan, I have some pics in my material of A's and D's flying side by side operationally. And I'm guessing they were later given to the Afgan gov't as part of the 40 or so they recieved.