Will ARMA3 feature realistic tank armor?

[yarxie]

Hey!

My question is, will tank combat be improved by making the armor/penetration etc etc more realistic? (See Battleground Europe, Faces of War, Men of War for reference)
I've been partly annoyed by the lack this in previous games. It would make tank combat much more exciting and fun. But would also help getting tank sim people over to Arma 3.

*fingers crossed*

[-Coulum-]

I'm doubting their will be a truly realistic penetration system in a3. My bet is bi is going to be doing a more complex version of what they have now and add more hit zones on vehicles and different effects when those zones are hit. I could be wrong but if they were going to be introducing new armour penetration you think they would have mentioned it by now.
I'm still hoping too though. plus it would be nice if vehicle damage didn't automatically result in a big explosion. tanks like the m1 abrams have many safety considerations built in to increase the survivability of the crew, even when the ammo store and what not is hit. but in arma, if your tank gets disabled you are most likely dead as well.
same thing applies to heli crashes.

[Tonci87]

An improved penetration system would be welcome. The current hitpoint based system is not a very good solution. Men of war really nails it.

[[EVO] Dan]

This has been discussed before and had some good videos and solutions, maybe it would best to lock this thread and continue on that old one?

Here:

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthrea...amage-modeling

[maturin]

Even if they phone this one in, I hope they give us vehicles with proper hitboxes so modders can create worthwhile systems.

[Max Power]

proper hitboxes

What did you have in mind? The current system has two kinds of 'hitboxes' that works in concert with each other. Is it the way the hitpointsLOD works that you don't like?

[maturin]

What did you have in mind? The current system has two kinds of 'hitboxes' that works in concert with each other. Is it the way the hitpointsLOD works that you don't like?

Well, the ACE system uses BIS models to define what part of the vehicle has been hit, and uses that to determine armor thickness and component damage. But it's frequently incorrect, with hits to the tracks counting as direct hits to the whole vehicle, shots through the crew compartment not killing anyone, etc. I don't understand it entirely.

But then there's always stuff like the Hind, where the rotor hitboxes are tangled up and multiply each other, with the result that a single round shuts down the engine despite the Mi-24's high hitpoint and armor ratings.

[msy]

I wish airplane can have its complex armor status like helicopters.

[James2464]

I wish airplane can have its complex armor status like helicopters.

Isn't that confirmed?

[Tonci87]

Could a Mod please merge this thread with this here?
http://forums.bistudio.com/showthrea...amage-modeling

EDIT:


The tank kills in this video show how awesome a realistic system can be.

Let me explain how its done in MoW

If a shell is able to penetrate armour depends on multiple things.
Caliber of the Gun
Distance to target
Angle of hit
Shell type

Every tank in MoW has multiple hit zones with their own respective thickness.
If a shell is able to punch through it then something might happen. For example the turret could be disabled, or a crewmember could be killed. The shell might even be able to punch through the whole tank if the shoot is powerfull enough.
If the shell does not penetrate the armour, then it will most likely ricochet and maybe hit something else.

If BIS could pull of a system that is as beleivanle as this... ah well, a man can dream