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    I have my money ready for P&C testing of arma3

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    A completely open testing model will be hell in a handbasket. The entire Day Z fanbase suddenly knows about this game, they'd test it out and you would hear nothing but "OMG broken, oh it's so janky, where is Day Z 2" bla bla.

    P&C would be my preferred method.

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    I have a dilemma, spend my money on beer...or on the Alpha (if we have to)...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sethos View Post
    A completely open testing model will be hell in a handbasket. The entire Day Z fanbase suddenly knows about this game, they'd test it out and you would hear nothing but "OMG broken, oh it's so janky, where is Day Z 2" bla bla.

    P&C would be my preferred method.
    Well, very much seems like it's open, and I have no problem with that. And, you know what, what's the big deal about those people complaining about it being broken? Will that somehow prevent BIS from releasing ArmA3? NO. Let them complain, if they will even test it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sethos View Post
    A completely open testing model will be hell in a handbasket. The entire Day Z fanbase suddenly knows about this game, they'd test it out and you would hear nothing but "OMG broken, oh it's so janky, where is Day Z 2" bla bla.
    Permanent transparent overlay with "ALPHA VERSION - EXPECT BUGS" text in the upper center of the screen should do the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antoineflemming View Post
    Well, very much seems like it's open, and I have no problem with that. And, you know what, what's the big deal about those people complaining about it being broken? Will that somehow prevent BIS from releasing ArmA3? NO. Let them complain, if they will even test it.
    It's called bad publicity. And no, the "any publicity is good publicity" moniker don't work for a monetary controlled business venture. Seriously, have you people worked in any sort of business position? You can add as many overlays and notices you want and it'll have minimal effect. Even Battlefield 3 'Beta' was a huge PR blunder terms of what they showed off was completely contradictory to the game's true essence - Large scale, open combat which Operation Metro was the complete opposite of. Luckily heavy PR, a strong brand and showing the opposite helped them out. We keep hearing how Bohemia want to reach a wider audience, because right now the entire franchise is fairly niche at its core. Even was a study some months ago how demos and betas had a huge negative impact on how the public perceived the games whilst trailers was the most positive.

    ArmA 2 is infamous for all its perceived jank and problems, releasing a PUBLIC alpha of its sequel, bound to get a ton of attention after a huge influx of interest from the Day Z mod is a PR disaster as the same problems, jank and performance issues will rear its ugly head - No matter how many Alpha stickers and notices you slap on there, it will get received negatively in the groups they wish to attract. And no, 'let them complain' is just stupid, this isn't playground rules of "I don't care, can't hear you lalala" BIS are actually running a business here and they need all the PR traction they can get.

    So unless they want yet another Armed Assault, ArmA 2 situation they need to keep the Alpha locked down behind selective testing, P&C or any sort of mechanism that will only entice people who are familiar with the games history and can handle those kind of problems. It's not a demo, it's not meant to persuade people who are unsure about the game to buy it, it's meant to be an actual test to iron out problems and it does NOT make sense to release that kind of alpha for a game know for those problems, to a huge Day Z enticed audience.

    And no, don't give the general public too much credit on how they read into alpha, betas and tests in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sethos View Post
    A completely open testing model will be hell in a handbasket. The entire Day Z fanbase suddenly knows about this game, they'd test it out and you would hear nothing but "OMG broken, oh it's so janky, where is Day Z 2" bla bla.

    P&C would be my preferred method.
    We hope to be able to come up with smart combination of free and closed P&C Alpha of Arma 3.
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    (Very bad google translation) About the contents of this Buchta said: "The community Alpha will include infantry battles and a couple of new features. We plan to extend it by a few upgrades of course, because we are interested in feedback from the players. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maruk View Post
    We hope to be able to come up with smart combination of free and closed P&C Alpha of Arma 3.
    Now I'm really interested to see what a smart combination of, essentially, "free + closed + paid" will be.

    EDIT: Although I guess you meant you want to offer one free alpha and one closed+paid version. The wording was somewhat misleading.

    Also, I'm now even more confused than before...
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    I bet the open Alpha will be smaller and more focused and the P&C will have either more or you will have more pull when you say "HEY! this is broken!" mind you I'm just guessing though personally I wouldn't be very excited to be paying to test someones product when I'm helping them by reporting bugs. mind you if there was a coupon or something similar to get the price you paid off of the game at a later time I would be OK with that.

    But in my mind its like your buddy is moving across town and he says to you "HEY BUDDY! pay me 20 mucks and I'll let you move my crap from my old place to this new one!" just how it feels to me but I do understand the point of it being more helpful people who love the game would pay and would be way more constructive. I was in the BF3 alpha and beta and it was a nightmare I had to type out and explain what an alpha\beta was more times than anyone should have too the stupidity of the masses should never be underestimated.
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