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    Radeon 7970 released - ARMA 2 Performance Gains

    From Bit-Tech, one of the few websites that uses ARMA 2 in its benchmark suite:

    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...-3gb-review/10

    "In Arma II at 1,920 x 1,080 with 4x AA the HD 7970 3GB produced a mighty minimum frame rate of 66fps, matching the dual-GPU HD 6990 4GB due to CPU limitation (yes, from a 3.3GHz Core i5-2500K). This was 18fps faster than its predecessor and 16fps faster than the GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB - a 30 per cent improvement over the Nvidia competition. At 2,560 x 1,600 with 4x AA the minimum frame rate dropped to 41fps, but this was still an incredible 50 per cent faster than the GTX 580 1.5GB."

    Some significant performance gains to be had. Also, it's interesting to think that the ARMA 3 demos were obviously run on current kit (I recall someone saying the Gamescon Machine was an I5 with a GTX580). If these new 7 series cards can push out more fps in the current engine, it could be a positive sign for people wanting to gear up for ARMA 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regulator86 View Post
    From Bit-Tech, one of the few websites that uses ARMA 2 in its benchmark suite:

    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...-3gb-review/10

    "In Arma II at 1,920 x 1,080 with 4x AA the HD 7970 3GB produced a mighty minimum frame rate of 66fps, matching the dual-GPU HD 6990 4GB due to CPU limitation (yes, from a 3.3GHz Core i5-2500K). This was 18fps faster than its predecessor and 16fps faster than the GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB - a 30 per cent improvement over the Nvidia competition. At 2,560 x 1,600 with 4x AA the minimum frame rate dropped to 41fps, but this was still an incredible 50 per cent faster than the GTX 580 1.5GB."

    Some significant performance gains to be had. Also, it's interesting to think that the ARMA 3 demos were obviously run on current kit (I recall someone saying the Gamescon Machine was an I5 with a GTX580). If these new 7 series cards can push out more fps in the current engine, it could be a positive sign for people wanting to gear up for ARMA 3.
    Yeah, nice performance. If AMD could only code some decent drivers it would be a nice toy. Until then it's just useless.

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    Yeah, nice performance. If AMD could only code some decent drivers it would be a nice toy. Until then it's just useless.
    So you say they tested it with "not so decent drivers" and still managed to surpass nVidia cards by 30%? Would you mind to explain what you expected?

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    don't bother mike...
    the card is up to 30% faster than the 1.5gb GTX580 (confirmed by guru3d review as well) even when AMD only has beta drivers for their new addition, while nvidia had 1 year to develop their drivers for the 580...
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    Yup, the driver argument is tired and pointless and both Nvidia and AMD have their own issues. And I don't want this thread to turn into AMD vs Nvidia.

    The real push is for ARMA 3 - and if this release makes BIS change their plans in terms of graphics implementation in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regulator86 View Post
    The real push is for ARMA 3 - and if this release makes BIS change their plans in terms of graphics implementation in any way.
    What and why would they change anything based on the continuous video card release?
    I really don't understand what are you asking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuFu View Post
    What and why would they change anything based on the continuous video card release?
    I really don't understand what are you asking...
    I'm not asking anything - trying to spur discussion.

    BIS official line on system requirements is "a lot could change between now and release", so they don't give us anything more detailed.

    A logical assumption is that they are weighing up the graphics environment, upcoming changes in the market etc. and developing the game based on this. An example would be taking into account DX11.1 features (not sure if this has been covered or confirmed already, I'm just giving an example) now that the 7970 is the first DX11.1 compatible card (according to a review I read earlier).

    If that's not how game development works then I'm wrong - I was making an educated guess.

    Given the hardware intensive nature of the RV engine, I would have assumed the devs have a very close eye on the hardware market and how it's looking to change over the coming year.

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    Beside all the technology improvement, I wonder how much will this card be costed ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by [FRL]Myke View Post
    So you say they tested it with "not so decent drivers" and still managed to surpass nVidia cards by 30%? Would you mind to explain what you expected?
    Quote Originally Posted by PuFu View Post
    don't bother mike...
    the card is up to 30% faster than the 1.5gb GTX580 (confirmed by guru3d review as well) even when AMD only has beta drivers for their new addition, while nvidia had 1 year to develop their drivers for the 580...
    Sure. Performance is great now, even with beta drivers. But what about in a year or so? I own one of the first 5870s available in Germany almost two and a half years ago. That is a freakin' awesome piece of hardware. nVidia wasn't even near that power to comsumption ratio up to date. The last usable driver though, that's a totally different animal. I run driver version 10.4 and just stopped trying to update to a more recent one a year ago. Since the 10.6 version they only introduced new bugs like cursor corruption, lots of blue screens during driver installation ...

    I for my part use a graphics card somewhat longer than a year and I like good support a lot (well, that's why I am here ). In my book awesome hardware is worth hardly more than nothing without support/drivers. And that is what is missing with AMD. I will use my 5870 until ArmA 3 is demanding more power, probably still with the 10.4 drivers. When that moment comes, I'm back to green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regulator86 View Post
    Yup, the driver argument is tired and pointless and both Nvidia and AMD have their own issues. And I don't want this thread to turn into AMD vs Nvidia.

    The real push is for ARMA 3 - and if this release makes BIS change their plans in terms of graphics implementation in any way.
    Why would they. There is nothing depending on nVidia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuFu View Post
    don't bother mike...
    the card is up to 30% faster than the 1.5gb GTX580 (confirmed by guru3d review as well) even when AMD only has beta drivers for their new addition, while nvidia had 1 year to develop their drivers for the 580...
    Comparing a 1.5GB card to a 3GB card is outright dishonest when claiming superior performance and AMD has been pushing results using 1.5GB 580s, that's not 'Apples to Apples'.

    It's actually closer to an average of 20%, which for a card that is a full year later than the 580, is not particularly impressive.

    It's time at the top will be extremely short lived as I'm pretty sure even the forthcoming 580 Ultra will match (or beat it) and there is little doubt that Kepler will steamroll it (short of any major delays).

    Add to all this that the 7970 is an almost completely paper launch and things are not looking good for AMD in 2012.

    With all the FUD etc leading up to this release, I was expecting alot more, but after the Bulldozer fiasco, I can't say as I am that surprised.
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