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Thread: SOPA - Internet as we know it about to be gone?

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    Well it's no surprise this is happening. It's not all about Copyright. Copyright is also another tool to censor media incriminating to the US government from reaching an audience in which it will have a profound impact...the American tax payers and voters , as well as a global audience.

    Youtube has enough credible evidence and investigative documentary's about 911 (amongst the crap of course) to warrant a new independent investigation. This will not be allowed to happen. For example, the work of Architects and Engineers for 911 truth.

    Uploaded on Youtube are documentary's by real Journalists like John pilger and Robert Fisk whom expose Misconduct and brutality by the US military as well as the crusader and expansionist aspirations of right wing US politicians, Zionists and the Israeli government, (the same group of people that engineered the Iraq war and are trying to lay a bum rap on Iran). Censoring youtube is of high priority because of how wide an audience can be reached as opposed to obscure websites in dark corners of the internet.

    Imagine if the US public knew more about the ethnic cleansing of Palestine and simultaneous birth of Israel and continued oppression and brutality toward the Palestinians. Or perhaps zionist terrorist acts like the Bombing of the King David hotel whilst dressed as Arabs, or the Lavon Affair, or the Attack on the USS Liberty in an attempt to fool the US in to attacking Egypt, or how about the Mossad operatives caught on 911 with vans full of explosives, later released back to Israel on immigration violation charges. Or the power of AIPAC a foreign agent in the US... How many Americans bar the Christian zionists, will allow their tax dollars to be given to Israel, whom cannot survive economically without it?.

    We have also seen the power of the internet with the "Arab spring" protest and revolutions as well as the occupy movement. This is just to scary for our keepers, hence Sopa is the beginning of the end. It's ok we will just have to take it to the streets.
    Last edited by freeman83; Dec 19 2011 at 20:39.
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  2. #22
    Hi all

    On the matter of censorship disguised as copyright.

    Universal missused the copyright protection function of Youtube to take down an advertising Jingle to which it had no copyright, to prevent a company it is in dispute with from advertising:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...esnt-like.html

    When Google and YouTube found out they put the video back up and told Unversal where to shove it, but Universal are busy trying to claim they can censor anything they do not like on YouTube, hardly surprising then that so many musicians film makers and artists are saying not in my name and that now this censored advertising Jingle looks set to be the Christmas No. 1!






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    Last edited by walker; Dec 19 2011 at 21:01.

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  3. #23
    Damn, not trying to get into a debate about electronic piracy, but I can't see how it may trouble the phonographic industry. The people that get pirated copies of products are exactly the people that would not buy the original cause they lack the money to do so.
    The branding and the exagerated taxes elevates the prices to such levels that only a minority would buy originals anyway. And even this way, the profit is so high that the industry doesn't bother in changing their formula.
    The independent developers emerged with the web and are opening new ways of selling, innovating.
    It's not only about softwares and music/movies, it's about media, communications, everything.
    I admit that less piracy 'could' resut in less taxes and lesser prices, but the way capitalism is directing the world, this may prove wrong.

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    Not all people believe in copyright

    ask the chinese.

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    Youtube has enough credible evidence and investigative documentary's about 911 to warrant a new independent investigation.
    Imagine if the US public knew more about the ethnic cleansing of Palestine and simultaneous birth of Israel and continued oppression and brutality toward the Palestinians.

    Mossad operatives caught on 911 with vans full of explosives

    This is why the internet can't have nice things

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    Hi all

    Google has said:

    Google: Universal lied about its private kill-switch for YouTube videos
    By Cory Doctorow at 2:46 pm Saturday, Dec 17

    Google claims that Universal had no basis for removing the "Mega Song" video posted in support of the MegaUpload service (which Universal is trying to drive off the Internet). Earlier this week, a court filing from Universal suggested that the company had negotiated the right to remove videos it doesn't own from YouTube as part of a private agreement with Google...
    http://boingboing.net/2011/12/17/goo...d-about-i.html
    As Always follow the link to read the original article in full

    The Attempt to censor the song has back fired to Streisand Effect levels with millions of people now listening to what was a minor advertising jingle but which now looks to be set to be the Christmas No.1 and stories spreading across the internet.
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr...youtube-274659

    The two main postings of the song now total over 5 million views on YouTube in just two days.

    Kind Regards walker
    Last edited by walker; Dec 20 2011 at 00:20.

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    Hopefully this will be repealed quickly as the "cyber-sector" (for lack of a better word) of the US economy implodes following the implementation of SOPA and PROTECT-IP.

  8. #28
    Hi all

    New music labels are taking the opportunity that disruptive technology brings to use sites like Megaupload for distribution.
    http://www.mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=149418

    I think competition is the true reason the old fashioned music labels are bringing in these protectionist measures. They have lost control of the music market with new more vibrant music labels snapping up all the new artists and many headline acts not even bothering to sign to a label those old fashioned music labels and their overpaid exec leeches are going out of business. Even signed acts are not bothering to renew contracts.

    Signing to these old fashioned labels seems like the kiss of death to your popularity.

    With the mainstream media now tracking the story:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011...youtube-video?

    And a second illegal use of the copyright take down this time on Vimeo triggering another court case and celebrities flocking to support Megaupload:
    http://www.itproportal.com/2011/12/1...se-megaupload/

    Universal's actions seem to be an example to everyone on how not to conduct a marketing strategy. If their staff are this awful at their jobs are they really the label to sign to?

    Kind regards walker
    Last edited by walker; Dec 20 2011 at 08:26.

  9. #29
    @Walker

    Hi, would you agree that the bill is intended for more than just protecting intellectual property? I think this bill is likely to be engineered in such away that it can be interpreted in any way that benefits the establishment to censor dissent or any other undesirable site or source.

  10. #30
    Hi freeman83

    Like most trade laws it is created to protect the entrenched businesses from competition essentialy it is a law written at the behest of the execs of the existing labels union, in order to protect them from market forces. To whit the disruptive effect of modern technology on business models based on a music recording industry that is founded on grooves cut into wax cylinders and dots written on paper.

    Do a search on entrenched business although if you have studied economics and or business and marketing you will already know this.

    The new technology is allowing the product to escape. The old fashioned business model can't keep up so they make laws to prevent the product from escaping. It is not working most artists nowadays distribute their own product or use the newer more savey labels that understand the internet and the modern music industry.

    Like all protectionist legislation at the end of a particular business models life cycle it is doomed to failure.

    By the way read Ray Kurzweil's "The singularity is near" and you will start to understand the business and economic forces at play and how this affects all entrenched business models, not just the music and other media. Even tech savey Apple are about to experience it.

    Kind regards walker
    Last edited by walker; Dec 20 2011 at 15:25. Reason: grammar

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