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    maybe he is either trolling or full of shit. maybe both. he makes exaggerated statements then refuses help/advice offered and then jumps to a blown out of proportion conclusion.

    not sure why i'm feeding the troll thread. guess im hoping he's not actually a troll and his problems with controllers can be solved, even though when encourage to do so he actually hasn't seemed to go to controller settings page which would allow him to fine tune his collective response or at least see numerically how its acting to provide more feedback to allow people to help.

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    I think the issue of OP is because the throttle has not been assigned to the analogue collective.

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    Use trim constantly. When you have the chopper aligned in the desired plane set trim. To fine tune, use trim as well, but on this case with the POV on the stick. Manual flying is hard sometimes, specially in expert. If you are not happy with trim set then reset it, but consider that stick will come to 0 and it may have an impact on the current helicopter plane if trim was previously set (ship will surely raise the nose suddenly). Important: pedals are set also when you trim the cyclic, be careful.

    A general rule for choppers: move controls veeeeeery smoothly
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoog View Post
    I think the issue of OP is because the throttle has not been assigned to the analogue collective.
    Wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geloxo View Post
    Use trim constantly. When you have the chopper aligned in the desired plane set trim. To fine tune, use trim as well, but on this case with the POV on the stick. Manual flying is hard sometimes, specially in expert. If you are not happy with trim set then reset it, but consider that stick will come to 0 and it may have an impact on the current helicopter plane if trim was previously set (ship will surely raise the nose suddenly). Important: pedals are set also when you trim the cyclic, be careful.

    A general rule for choppers: move controls veeeeeery smoothly
    The trim is acting very "FAKE", anyone who plays with it knows what I am talking about..
    To the guy who says, I should enable auto-trim.. lol, what a joke.. why even fly?
    Probably sums up the rest of this places true angle.. auto trim FTW!


    And so far, you all call me out.. but yet to see any proof.. got external videos of you flying in expert mode with stick and pedals... post em...

    otherwise. call out your BS all you want, its that attack on negativity that = trolling.... It appears you all just can't handle the truth.

    If the stick/pedal flight system in expert was anything like that in real life, there'd be a helicopter crashing every 5 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarcasticpcgamer View Post
    The trim is acting very "FAKE", anyone who plays with it knows what I am talking about..
    So are you a real life pilot or something? Just wondering, since you seem to have an idea how trim should behave in reality. Otherwise calling the implementation in the TakOH flight model "FAKE" would be a bit of a stretch.

    Quote Originally Posted by sarcasticpcgamer View Post
    To the guy who says, I should enable auto-trim.. lol, what a joke.. why even fly?
    Probably sums up the rest of this places true angle.. auto trim FTW!
    Autotrim is there so you can learn the flight model bit by bit. I used it up until about a week ago and it was very helpful. Since you have found it necessary to jump right into expert and are now struggling to control your chopper, I can only repeat my suggestion to either dial the difficulty down a notch and learn to fly properly, or as others have suggested to correctly configure your controls, instead of coming here and venting your self inflicted frustrations on the rest of us.

    Quote Originally Posted by sarcasticpcgamer View Post
    And so far, you all call me out.. but yet to see any proof.. got external videos of you flying in expert mode with stick and pedals... post em...
    I don't have any videos, but if you like I'm sure we could set up an MP mission on expert mode with autotrim and all the other helpers forced off. That way you can see other people actually flying instead of just reading about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by sarcasticpcgamer View Post
    otherwise. call out your BS all you want, its that attack on negativity that = trolling.... It appears you all just can't handle the truth.
    Funny, the only BS and trolling I'm seeing here is coming from you, and judging by your attitude I'd say "handling the truth" isn't exactly one of your strong points either.

    Quote Originally Posted by sarcasticpcgamer View Post
    If the stick/pedal flight system in expert was anything like that in real life, there'd be a helicopter crashing every 5 minutes.
    Just keep telling yourself that. Whatever makes you feel better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDogX View Post
    I don't have any videos, but if you like I'm sure we could set up an MP mission on expert mode with autotrim and all the other helpers forced off. That way you can see other people actually flying instead of just reading about it.
    there is a mp server with autotrim off that i know of !
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    Heh can tell half the replies to me are people who did not even play the beta, the trim controls on expert in the beta were NOT continuous.. so you could only set trim once then release... So.. yeah.. not too mention im the only one who has a video on youtube landing in expert mode, no auto trim in the CP....

    Bloke yoke yoke... you can't defeat the truth I was speaking... Only call me a fool, which makes you the fool cuz you'z trollin and you is auto-trimming...


    wouldnt help ziggy unless BI launches a game with no keyboard mouse input accepted....

    One question, this may solve everything... In beta was there manual trim, left right up down, rudder l rudder r? keybinds.. I never noticed them.... They are now in retail, and this is probably what is needed to fly ;D

    Im actually flying 10 times easier in retail

    weird i turned on fraps and now cant fly... i think i found the problem/bug
    Last edited by sarcasticpcgamer; Oct 29 2011 at 04:33.

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    Are your videos under the name id5556? If so, you were not doing half as bad as you make it sound. I think you were just surprised how different it is compared to fsx and x-plane. And since you seem to have a grasp on how a chopper is operated, you will learn to fly this one too without too much of an effort(if you're id5556). Thats subjective ofcourse, but from the looks of your videos, you're a simmer, and spending countless hours studying and practicing is what being a sim enthusiast is all about. Well that and obviously flying/driving a sim too.
    Now I haven't tried dodosim 206 and propably won't either, because no matter how high an addon plane - like the a2a ones and hovercontrol helicopters - is rated by its users, they have all let me down. I tried x-plane too just 'cause their helicopter simulation was getting so much praise. They're good on paper and there are some complex stuff there that I miss in this one, but it always comes down to the feeling you get when flying the aircraft, and in both fsx and x-plane it just feels like the planes are on rails when up in the air and the helicopters are just a tilting and rotating point of views to fsx's slew mode. Motion simulation and/or buttkicker could ofcourse make a huge difference and as I said they do look good when comparing features. A matter of preference

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    There's just some issues that i cant put my finger on.. at this point its pot luck... Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't.... It truly makes no sense! Sometimes I cant fly, then come back from letting it sit for an hour and it automagically is flying okay.

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    SOLUTION FOUND!

    I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THE NATURE OF MY ATTITUDE, BUT IM NOT A MORON (ALTOGETHER)

    It was a hardware issue after all.... I have debugged the issue to my front panel case USB ports.... Haf X 942 usb ports (not the 3.0 ones) caused problems with polling and were not running at sufficient speed, thus giving poor feedback to game and explained why sometimes i just fell out of the sky!!!!!

    Since finding this solution, I can hover pretty much at will in expert mode, no auto trim, no auto hover.. matter of fact.. its insanely easy!!!!

    Cheers

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