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[PELHAM]

Too late trucker - it passed congress with a vote of 399-3 and was signed into Law by Obama yesterday. It doesn't criminalise protest at all. It simply temporarily stops people occupying areas where dignitaries are visiting or jumping the fence at the White House. You will still be able to protest peacefully from the sidewalk.

Good old Globalresearch.ca, always economical with the truth. Make sure you read the attached PDF of the bill where you will discover the law only applies to areas temporarily restricted by the US Secret Service at the time and permanently only to the grounds of the White House and residence of the Deputy President.

Trying to say this is a nation wide restriction on protest is a huge distortion of the reality.

[Tonci87]

So basically people can protest in places where nobody will notice them/where they can protest until the end of days. Very effective....

[PELHAM]

So basically people can protest in places where nobody will notice them/where they can protest until the end of days. Very effective....

They can protest in the street outside, just not in the building where the President is visiting. Can't see a problem with that myself. That is why it passed congress with an almost unanimous vote, there is nothing wrong with it. Read the thing yourself:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...112hr347ih.pdf
Make sure you get to the last page where it defines the 3 places where this law will come into force.

[Tonci87]

They can protest in the street outside, just not in the building where the President is visiting. Can't see a problem with that myself. That is why it passed congress with an almost unanimous vote, there is nothing wrong with it. Read the thing yourself:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...112hr347ih.pdf
Make sure you get to the last page where it defines the 3 places where this law will come into force.

Ah OK, that sounds reasonable. I think this legislation is OK as long as it doesn´t restrict protests in "public" places

[nettrucker]

IMHO it's just the beginning. It pratically means you can not protest in front of the White House where the President resides. So where do you go and protest when you're not agreeing with the current political agenda of your country or with the President himself?

[Tonci87]

of the White House or its grounds, or
the Vice President’s official residence or its
grounds;

I understan it that way that it is still ok to protest in front of the fence, right?

[PELHAM]

I understan it that way that it is still ok to protest in front of the fence, right?

Yes, you can protest outside the grounds of the whitehouse but you can't climb the fence or pitch a tent on the front lawn. Terrible affront to human rights you know, not being able to camp on the whitehouse lawn lol.
@Nettrucker - got anything resembling anything truthful to say on this?

[nettrucker]

No . . . not at the moment Pelham. But I'm firmly convinced that this bill will be amended in the future or they will try to pass additional bills which will restrict more and more the right for peaceful protest and free speech. Not withstanding the occupy movements we haven't seen any mass demonstrations yet and the time will come where more and more Americans will hit the streets to protest . . . believe me. Furthermore also the right of free speech will be more and more restricted on the Internet. All western governments are very busy to try and get control on the Internet . . . face book and other social network sites are just the very beginning.

Good old Globalresearch.ca, always economical with the truth.

Well I'm neither right nor left wing when it comes to my political point of views. I'm reading "Global reseach" to get a different point of view to what the mainstream media outlets are reporting. And for being honest I believe that most articles are nearer to the truth and actual situation rather than CNN's or FOX 's news reporting.

I personally am a truther rather than a conspiracy theorist. Fact is that the situation is very complex . . . all over the world we are facing difficulties just to make a living, if you just earn a normal salary. Our economies are close to total collapse due to imminent bankruptcy in the near future.

The main reason why we are in this mega mess is due to the corruption in our society. If we are unable to find a solution to this widespread disease we are doomed. For being honest I'm waiting for the next stock crash which will happen within the end of 2013 if we make it that far, might be even earlier. And the stock crash in 2008 will be a picknick in confront of what we will face.

It would take me a book to write to cover all my findings. I'll tell you what . . . I personally believe that the European Union was the first step towards the "new world order", furthemore I'm convinced that our economies are ruined by design. There's nothing natural in all the risk of bankruptcies and financial meltdown in all the Western world. It is not due to economist making mistakes. They know exactly what they are doing.

My apologies for going off topic but these things are somehow related to what is happening around us all over the world.

may I ask you a question Pelham? Have you ever read John Perkins book "Confessions of an Economic hitman". His book doesn't shine for his writing skills because he's not a writer, but the point is the revealing of economic warfare methods used by the US since after worldwar two to loot and exploit other countries natural resources. In case the country in questions is not favouring US interests the country will be subject to regime change. Once favoured regime change is achieved
the countries economy is being systematically destroyed by heavy debt . . . which the relevant country can not pay back. IMF and the worldbank were major players on the economic battlefields all over the world.
The US is doing it still today. This has to stop . . . the wars have to stop.

Thanks in any case for enlighten me on the bill but it's just one small piece of the big picture.
Peace bro

[mrcash2009]

Remember this is about facebook thread

EDIT:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...dia-sites.html

Next time you start to upload pictures of nights out on to Facebook, or moan about your day on Twitter, bear in mind that you could be risking your career.

One in five bosses have rejected an applicant because of their profiles on social networking sites, according to a UK company’s report on the technology industry.

Why do people even bother? So many things everybody says day to day about all manner of things, anyone know what "off the record" means any more? Dear me. I realise you have privacy settings, but what does that really mean on this site, once you share with someone they can show what you posted or screengrab or a friend of a friend and so on. I have a friend who screen captures via his smart phone and sends the attachment to email of the facebook conversation, now, the conversations are just silly and funny banter, although I bet the others are not privvy to it.

BTW I have a few friends with Smart Phones .. or as I like to call them, "facebook implemented non firewalled trojan app track modules" .. I use a basic email add and low and behold I get an email "please confirm your facbook account" through my email and then 2 SMS messags to my phone about checking out facebook profiles, not once did I use the site, totally and the mercy of people using app plugins on smart (sly) phones putting my info in address book, matching the data, or adding something through facebook and bam, spam fest, privacy eh. Even if it was scam ones, your still at the mecy of someone smart phone, what they added, how much & what apps they shoved into it with no care at all.

[PELHAM]

Another one bites the dust:
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/UK_stude...?dpl_id=399241

A student who mocked Bolton footballer Fabrice Muamba on Twitter has been sent to prison for his 'racist' comments. Police forces around the UK received complaints about Liam Stacey who made the remarks after Muamba collapsed on the pitch during a match.

Stacey, 21, admitted an offence of inciting racial hatred. He was today given a 56-day sentence at Swansea Magistrates' Court. He wept as he was handcuffed and led away. His defence noted he admitted his guilt as soon as police in Swansea arrested him, that he was drunk a the time, and claimed he was not a racist and had friends from ethnic minorities.