ACE for OA 1.12

[maturin]

I very rarely have units use launchers on infantry. You can't order them to do it, and you can't recreate it, so there are only certain obscure circumstances where they will do so.

And really, it's not a problem. Handheld AT is used against infantry all the time in the real world. I say they should just expand the damage radius of those HEAT rounds slightly and put some sort of hard prohibition on using one-shot launchers against infantry.

Edit: Actually, I can confirm that they absolutely love using RPG-18s on single infantrymen at close range. But I can't get them to use their RPGs and AT4s.

[Humvee28]

Seems like that AI Medics can´t heal anymore. Ticket created at DH.

http://dev-heaven.net/issues/25895

[Sickboy]

Seems like that AI Medics can´t heal anymore. Ticket created at DH.

http://dev-heaven.net/issues/25895

Cheers, fix attached!

[Humvee28]

Cheers to you Man!

[mr.g-c]

Yeah, I think that is the problem.

We should then add this to the ArmA3 CIT on Dev-heaven to fix this serious limitation.
"Most Realistic Military Simulator", heh? ^^

[galzohar]

Couldn't you have special weapon classes for AI that will be automatically replaced and only be able to use 1 type of ammo, and have a script switch between them based on the kind of ammo that makes sense in the given situation as long as that ammo is available?

[maturin]

Does anyone here notice M203 HEDP grenades taking long periods of time to explode? The last game I played, they were absolutely bonkers. I would take aim at a BMP and fire and nothing would happen. Also, I managed to frag myself with one after a long time had elapsed. It was like I had fired a GP-25 or something.

Edit: However, I can't reproduce it. Maybe it was just that mission. Cipher isn't the simplest piece of software by any means.

Also, I am not loving the various gear changes. I used to be able to interact with units of lower rank and access their inventories. Now I have to wait for some scripts to fire, because it takes several seconds for the screen to pop up. Likewise, I can no longer access rucksacks and RPG packs like I could in vanilla OA. The action menu option is gone and I have use the interaction menu, only to sit through a three second lag time to hear that the back is locked. Excuse me? How do you lock a sack of rockets?

And when I shot the selfish bastard carrying the gear and took the back myself, I could never open it. It took me a few minute to cycle through the various combinations of "In Hands," "On Back" (it disappears from the model!) and on the ground versus action menu, Interact and Self Interact. Only one of those combinations got me an Open Pack option (I forget which), and when I clicked, nothing happened. So I couldn't play that mission because my extra rockets were locked inside a backpack.

I rant here because none of this is ticket-worthy. Here's my RPT anyway; some of the spam is Namalsk's fault.

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== C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\arma 2 operation arrowhead\Expansion\beta\arma2oa.exe
== "C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\arma 2 operation arrowhead\Expansion\beta\arma2oa.exe" "-mod=C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\arma 2;Expansion;ca;Expansion\beta;Expansion\beta\Expan sion;@cba;@ace;@acex;@acex_usnavy;@acex_ru;@acex_s m;@jsrs-e;@jsrs-v;@jsrs-vw;@jsrs-w;@fallujah;@namalsk;@panthera;@proper;@trueuser;@ rws" -nosplash -world=empty -showScriptErrors -maxMem=2047 -cpuCount=2
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Exe timestamp: 2011/09/30 20:32:53
Current time: 2011/10/26 19:48:50

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These kind of changes are worth a dev blog, at least.

Edit: Okay, deep breath. I went and confused myself thoroughly, so not everything I said above is necessarily accurate.

But I think I can report that the Interact key Rucksack option doesn't work when you try to open the bag of a corpse. This is sort of okay because you can simply open the bag through the action menu, though.

I still have a feeling the Interact Key gear swapping takes longer to initiate in a busy mission. Was the scripting method for this function changed?

I am pretty sure it wasn't user error that prevented me from opening a dropped RPG pack.

And most of all, I think we should be able to access the rucks of living units who are not in our group.

Also, there is now a cosmetic issue where RPG ammo carriers no longer have their packs visible on their models until they die. This confused me in an old mission.

Edit Again: Is there any possible effect team switching could have on the ruck system? I tried to retrieve rockets for an ammo carrier from a different group and found the rucksack "locked." I killed him and was able to access the ruck as in the vanilla game. But after repeating the process as a different unit, the ruck would not display its original contents. It appeared empty and would only accept the items that I put in it.

[Sickboy]

and have a script switch between them based on the kind of ammo that makes sense in the given situation as long as that ammo is available?

How do you determine the kind of ammo that makes sense in the given situation?

[CameronMcDonald]

We could try adding AI muzzles for various types of rockets, but that would mean AI able to fire 2 rounds of different types instantly. I don't think it's particularly desired for infantry.

Can't you use the aiRateOfFire entry to fix that? That is how the multiple muzzles o' tanks/APCs workaround operates.

Probably different for AT launchers, though.

[galzohar]

How do you determine the kind of ammo that makes sense in the given situation?

Same as how you determine whether or not you should rearm and from where - That's where the "smart scripting" comes in