Can't fly in a straight line (auto trim off.).

[-Sn1PeR-]

What do you care, you're not going to fly with a keyboard anyway.

The rudder-throttle keyboard assimilation seems like a good idea, and I don't see how it will dumb down your joystick gameplay.

I was curious, but I get the point. I think I'm done here.

[[DirTyDeeDs]-Ziggy-]

How are you suggesting they provide analog control with two buttons? They could add bands (ie. 10% step sizes, etc.), but that still would not be sufficient for perfect trim.

the same way they did with keybinds of INCREASE THRUST and DECREASE THRUST. press and hold X (or C) while it cycles to its max 'value'.
there would have to be a way for the value to get back to neutral state...
sounds good, right?

[PELHAM]

I have a 25 year old joystick somewhere in the loft with manual trim wheels. I think I might use that lol.

Why don't they introduce manual trim in the keyboard so if you press shift and W,A,S,D,Z or X it gives 1 measure of trim in the given direction? (I think someone has sort of mentioned this.)

Also lets face it - if it's a realistic flight sim it's reasonable to expect the player to use something more than a mouse and keyboard as standard. You would never be able to control a real helicopter using such basic input devices.

[TheCapulet]

Also lets face it - if it's a realistic flight sim it's reasonable to expect the player to use something more than a mouse and keyboard as standard. You would never be able to control a real helicopter using such basic input devices.

Your common sense is showing. :O

[DnA]

Also lets face it - if it's a realistic flight sim it's reasonable to expect the player to use something more than a mouse and keyboard as standard.

We will look at improving this, but generally: this is one of the reasons we've included auto-trim. Not having as many analogue axes when using keyboard and mouse means this system can handle at least one for you

[Archosaurusrev]

I wasn't asking to make it as easy to fly with the good ol' combo of a mouse and keyboard, that isn't possible.

Flight sims should be better optimised for sticks.

But some kind of "increase thrust" and "decrease thrust" for keyboard turning would help us keyboard people who don't have a stick (Yet, hopefully .).

[[DirTyDeeDs]-Ziggy-]

I wasn't asking to make it as easy to fly with the good ol' combo of a mouse and keyboard, that isn't possible.

it's already as easy to fly with mouse and keyboard as it is with joystick, it just takes practice.

reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKq4Z9JLOkk

[Archosaurusrev]

it's already as easy to fly with mouse and keyboard as it is with joystick, it just takes practice.

reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKq4Z9JLOkk

Yeah, I can fly good with the mouse + keyboard but usually flightsim equipment allows you to more freely maneuver.

For people like me who are used to the keyboard control can get over that limit. My only problem is trim setting, everything else I do as competently.

[Liquidpinky]

They could maybe make it similar to what I have on my RC controller, the trim is a separate slider below and to the side of the stick.
This could be adjusted with plus and minus key assignments for them and maybe have a visible trim setting shown somewhere on the HUD for these.
I would find this usefull myself to set trim up before take off etc even though I use a flight stick.

Is it just set like it is in ToH, by a single toggle trim on/off, in a real helicopter?

[kylania]

Isn't that why auto trim exists in the first place? You are asking to emulate a very nuanced analog control with on/off switches. I personally would rather them do exactly what they are attempting to -- give various difficulties to toggle on/off flight-aids rather than dumbing down the game so that it's flyable with a keyboard.

The problem is AutoTrim doesn't exist in Veteran mode and I don't want to play in Recruit mode. Regular has the option to turn it on, but Veteran doesn't. For something that's so completely critical to the essence of playability for the game it should be on or at least optional for all levels of difficulty, like 3rd Person View.

Flying with AT on with keyboard/mouse is challenging to get right but actually doable. Feels like a more difficult version of what we have now and that I like. Landing with the ground effect wind is a deadly affair for me so far! heh

With Autotrim off it's completely and utterly uncontrollable bad. A "makes me want to cancel my pre-order" bad. That's a very bad bad to be.