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    Can't fly in a straight line (auto trim off.).

    First of all, using a mouse and keyboard.





    What is with this rolling to the right bullshit?
    Have the devs ever been in a helicopter?

    Now I know helos aren't stable but why do these roll so much?
    Does it have something to do with the collective, which I can't adjust as I only have a mouse and keyboard?

    Help would be needed.

    Edit: I am also very aware the if you press the left "pedal" and set trim then it should counteract this.
    Seeing as I have a keyboard, I press X and set trim, it rolls to the left!

    Help please.
    Last edited by Archosaurusrev; Jul 18 2011 at 14:39.
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    Set the pedals mapping to your mouse so you can set the trip properly?

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    I was thinking that too, didn't work.

    Good suggestion nonetheless.

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    The tail rotor on helicopters create their own wash, this will affect them slightly although it is more pronounced on take off when the aircraft will drift side ways if not compensated for.
    I have had lots of fun with this while trying to fly my RC heli indoors. XD

    You really need to have some form of analogue control to try and get it balanced before setting the trim, you need a little cyclic and rudder to sort it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquidpinky View Post
    You really need to have some form of analogue control to try and get it balanced before setting the trim, you need a little cyclic and rudder to sort it out.
    Unless this game is shipping with a custom controller + pedals, they'd better make it keyboard flyable without pedals. As it stands now it's nearly impossible for many to control since the helicopter immediately begins uncontrollable and drastic rolling and tilting from the start.

    Maybe if they made the X/C work the same as Q/Z so we could apply a little and keep it applied rather than having to constantly press X or W and always end up overcompensating in doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kylania View Post
    Unless this game is shipping with a custom controller + pedals, they'd better make it keyboard flyable without pedals. As it stands now it's nearly impossible for many to control since the helicopter immediately begins uncontrollable and drastic rolling and tilting from the start.

    Maybe if they made the X/C work the same as Q/Z so we could apply a little and keep it applied rather than having to constantly press X or W and always end up overcompensating in doing so.
    That would fix it.

    You have a 0.000001% chance to set the trim well with a keyboard, that means it's about luck.


    Doing what is suggested above would fix it. Irl when you set trim/change pressure to pedals it STAYS set.

    Jesus fucking christ, I've seen videos of people flying in FSX with no pedals, only a mouse and keyboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kylania View Post
    Unless this game is shipping with a custom controller + pedals, they'd better make it keyboard flyable without pedals. As it stands now it's nearly impossible for many to control since the helicopter immediately begins uncontrollable and drastic rolling and tilting from the start.

    Maybe if they made the X/C work the same as Q/Z so we could apply a little and keep it applied rather than having to constantly press X or W and always end up overcompensating in doing so.
    Isn't that why auto trim exists in the first place? You are asking to emulate a very nuanced analog control with on/off switches. I personally would rather them do exactly what they are attempting to -- give various difficulties to toggle on/off flight-aids rather than dumbing down the game so that it's flyable with a keyboard.
    Last edited by -Sn1PeR-; Jul 18 2011 at 21:43.

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    Sniper,
    providing analog control over tailrotor axis X/C would only affect keyboard control systems, WILL NOT dumb the game down in any way shape or form, but rather make it more realistic when using that hardware.
    Last edited by [DirTyDeeDs]-Ziggy-; Jul 19 2011 at 01:46.

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    How are you suggesting they provide analog control with two buttons? They could add bands (ie. 10% step sizes, etc.), but that still would not be sufficient for perfect trim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Sn1PeR- View Post
    How are you suggesting they provide analog control with two buttons? They could add bands (ie. 10% step sizes, etc.), but that still would not be sufficient for perfect trim.
    What do you care, you're not going to fly with a keyboard anyway.

    The rudder-throttle keyboard assimilation seems like a good idea, and I don't see how it will dumb down your joystick gameplay.

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