Problems when trying to fly with Auto Trim Off

[Sjaba]

Hi there.
I seem to have the same problem ?/ (challenge?) with the chopper banking hard right when trying to fly level. Im using a thrustmaster hotas warthog as inputs and i have tried to customise the controls as best i can. Straigt after take off the chopper will start banking hard right as soon as i pick up speed.
To maintain level flight i need to add atleast 50% left bank to ensure straight flight. I have tried the rudder and setting trim, but that does not seem to be very much related.

Im a noob at TOH( as most would be i guess ), however iv been flying choppers in the bis world since ofp so i assumed that i would get a hang of it rather quickely, but atm im struggeling to even get in the air without crashing..

[kylania]

Same here Sjaba! can't fly at all in TKOH anymore. What settings are you using for your Warthog, I have the same and haven't' managed to find a good controller setup for it.

[Sjaba]

Hey Kylania
I have been fiddling about a bit more now, and firstly i found that changing from veteran mode to recruit kinda sorted the problem as a "hotfix". Flying stabile with no right banking at all in this mode (even completed the mission). Surely vetran mode should be harder then recruit, but then there must be a way to "prepare" your chopper for flight before take off or else in my case i have a 50% chance of survival of each flight...
However i also manged to get a slightly more stabile flight in vet mode by applying approx 60 - 70 % ish left rudder and manual set trim..But its very hard to tell what the right amount of trim is as there is no indicator..i wish i could use the trim hat switch on the Hotas

I set all my controls to pretty much default and im using the slew button as the rudder, its a bit "short" on the axis but untill i get my pedals that will have to do.

btw..when i have you here..cred goes out for your editing page and forum posts..been using them a lot in mission making..thx..

[twisted]

the total amount of trim is controlled by your collective (analogue throttle) as well as your pedals. i've found adjusting collective as well as pedals (i use a twisty joystick) gives me the control i need. it's about finding a balance and constantly adjusting it based on your current collective. but it's a helicopter so don't expect a set it and it stays stable kind of switch (well other than auto-trim on which is what lower difficulty settings give you)

[Tomek2708]

It all sounds very reasonable, but I can not imagine that any pilot is constantly pushing the flight stick to the left, because of the effects from the tailrotor.

I have to push my flightstick more than half of the way to the left, in order to keep my bird steady. That can't be that normal. I understand small inputs, but hanging at the flightstick doesn't seem that usual.
And pushing the pedal all the way down to prevent yaw, caused by torque?

The other thing is, that when I try to get in hover-mode with the hover-mode function, my own trimming causes the bird to drift in the direction I trimmed it before, so every time I have to release my trim and re-trim when I exit hover-mode and keep flying.

It feels like the axis are twisted and I can't imagine that this is the real behavour of a helicopter, even when the game is very realistic, and even when the tailrotor cause rolling.