Automatic Mod Downloading

[whisper]

** Elitism crap **

Speaking of attention span (of a potatoe), did you actually read what you quoted?

"Being an Arma / Windows / Mod install geek does not mean your valuable player"

[160thSOAR]

It weeds out the idiots and people with an attention span of a potato. (read: dedicated CoD/Battlefield players)

1. Your logic makes no sense. If someone was dedicated to CoD/BF, they would at least need some sort of extended attention span. It's what the word "dedicated" means, you see.

2. I'm not an idiot and I have a pretty good attention span. I don't like installing mods myself, not because I have no attention span but because I'm absolutely terrible with computers and have a download rate of 150kb/s on average.

I had to be walked through how to use Addon Sync and 6Updater, but the person who did that by no means thinks I'm stupid. (Username on here is secludedsfx, ask him if you want to know....) I'm not good with computers at all and I have trouble with the mod scene. That doesn't mean I'm a "griefer" or someone who won't follow the rules.

You, sir, need to keep your elitist views to yourself. What you're doing is equivalent to me saying, "I expect you to know De Moivre's Theorem because I do. If you can't, your an idiot and a vegetable-head."

@OP: I would welcome that system with open arms. If something could do all the complicated mod-installing for me, I would really appreciate it. I have enough troubles with just ACE, ACRE, and I44 as it is.

[mrcash2009]

"Streamlining" this process I think is welcomed becuase this is one area that may put people off.

[Primarch]

Speaking of attention span (of a potatoe), did you actually read what you quoted?

"Being an Arma / Windows / Mod install geek does not mean your valuable player"

You have to be a geek to understand simple english language, that is always presented in notepads in major mods?
If you fail to read a notepad, how likely you are going to be a valuable player in a dedicated game series such as ArmA?
Did you actually read what you quoted? It weeds out the idiots and people with no real interest in playing the game with mods.

By the nature of the game, BIS will not most likely get much larger audience no matter how simple the mod downloading is. The series is tedious to people who are used to fast, simple, easy and arcade games.

Then again I don't play on public servers so my view can be different from many other views but it is still my opinion and you must accept it.

[whisper]

You have to be a geek to understand simple english language, that is always presented in notepads in major mods?
If you fail to read a notepad, how likely you are going to be a valuable player in a dedicated game series such as ArmA?
Did you actually read what you quoted? It weeds out the idiots and people with no real interest in playing the game with mods.

By the nature of the game, BIS will not most likely get much larger audience no matter how simple the mod downloading is. The series is tedious to people who are used to fast, simple, easy and arcade games.

Then again I don't play on public servers so my view can be different from many other views but it is still my opinion and you must accept it.

Like all mod were updated easily via notepad notes ...... Read 160thSOAR post for explanations.

OFP attracted even Quake players who enjoyed the game immensely. I don't know where you get your facts about people playing other kind of games when they try OFP/ArmA/ArmA2, you apparently don't know much of said other genres. Broad statement, easy labelling of people foreign to you.... nice behavior.

And finally, the top of it all :

Then again I don't play on public servers

So how is easier mod usage, and different people coming to public servers, going to affect your game in any way?? oO You wrote on this post with what purpose exactly? Prevent the development of a functionality that will never change your game, or just generally diss players that dare play ArmA differently than you do?

[Przemek_kondor]

By the nature of the game, BIS will not most likely get much larger audience no matter how simple the mod downloading is. The series is tedious to people who are used to fast, simple, easy and arcade games.

I don't care too much about new players. I'm just sick about playing with shourtcuts / launchers whenever I change server.
I'm a professional programmer, linux user and BIS serie player since OFP so it's not a problem from technical point of view. But it's a game. I should focus on playing not on some technical issues like searching of new version of Duala. There are other things (family, other hobbies etc) than following Armaholic's news. After day of work I would like to run arma and play whatever mission with my friends from CTF to Warfare or Coop without looking to rpt file to find missing addons.

Then again I don't play on public servers so my view can be different from many other views but it is still my opinion and you must accept it.

But nobody calls you less valuable player like you do

[rory_pamphilon]

Primarks elitist views aside, how many people in here found it easy and straight forward to install a mod the first time you came to do it?

I certainly did not, it took alot of forum searching to eventually work out how to do it. Then once the method was discovered I realised just how large and impressive the mod scene is. One of my first mods I used was the JSRS sound mod, it changed the game, it was like you were suddenly thrown into a war, the immersion increased 5 fold. I truelly beleive arma 1,2 & soon 3 are the single greatest games/simulators ever created for the PC and i feel like I want to share this with a much larger audience and yet i know that the majority of gamers out there that buy arma 3 will only experience the tip of the iceberg in terms of whats really possible with it if it stays the way it is with arma 2.

Unless, something is implement by BI to make mod installing easier.

Preferable ways...

First. All internal, within the game interface, preferably with background downloading possible for the larger mods.

Second. External official BI mod downloaded and updater.

Third. (and least preferable) a third party mod downloader and installer.

If you manage the first BI, your player base will explode!

[DMarkwick]

Primarks elitist views aside, how many people in here found it easy and straight forward to install a mod the first time you came to do it?

I certainly did not, it took alot of forum searching to eventually work out how to do it. Then once the method was discovered I realised just how large and impressive the mod scene is. One of my first mods I used was the JSRS sound mod, it changed the game, it was like you were suddenly thrown into a war, the immersion increased 5 fold. I truelly beleive arma 1,2 & soon 3 are the single greatest games/simulators ever created for the PC and i feel like I want to share this with a much larger audience and yet i know that the majority of gamers out there that buy arma 3 will only experience the tip of the iceberg in terms of whats really possible with it.

Unless something is implement by BI to make mod installing easier.

Preferable ways...

First. All internal, within the game interface, preferably with background downloading possible for the larger mods.

Second. External official BI mod downloaded and updater.

Third. (and least preferable) a third party mod downloader and installer.

If you manage the first BI, your player base will explode!

I should prefer the second option. That way, gamers can game, while those who wish to get a little more out of the game can do so reasonably easily. Especially if that launcher app can organise the mods into meaningful directory structures automagically.

[Primarch]

tl;dr

Just saying I am sure BIS employees has been notified that some people have problems installing mods, but those are still third party addons and not related to BIS in anyway.
However I would like if they added an automatic patcher while in-game and thus mod creators could release patches with an ease without the need of third party programs such as SixUpdater.
But then again, most of the addons you need to download are large and require the restart of the game since they modify the base files.

[NeMeSiS]

Primarks elitist views aside, how many people in here found it easy and straight forward to install a mod the first time you came to do it?

Very easy. Manually dropping files in a folder gives me full control, which means you always know what is going on and you can manage everything yourself.
It should only give you trouble if you are pretty new to PC's in general and never browsed around with explorer before.

However, clicking on a server and not being able to join, then having to hunt some addons by vague description is very annoying, and should definately be improved.