Clutter in Visitor3...fill Map with life

[Matrix2k20]

Hi Community,

my Map with sat image and mask are finished...it is possible to see grass clutter in visitor/Buldozer?? how?

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somebody to help me out..

[jens198]

As far as I know, there is no way to preview your clutter in buldolzer itself. You have to pack your complete map with config.cpp (including the clutter settings and values), load the map in ArmA and check your clutter ingame.

Jens

BTW: nice looking map!

[[APS]Gnat]

Yep, I've never seen clutter in the preview.

[Matrix2k20]

Hmmm...

place bushes and tress...pack everything..check..and do all again...oh no.
i guess i need months for that

...and after weeks im sick of all these Afghanistan map working..i think i stop the projekt and make a China Conflict map, with lot of trees, gras and stuff like that.

i make a zip and give it for free...the map based on real datas and is a good start for everybody.neeeeext!

[Chill xl]

Clutter is generated ingame around the player based on the attributes mask. The game checks where the player is on the map, sees what attributes are there defined on the mask map at the same locations and generates grass or any other configured clutter around the player. So clutter is not placed on the map... Verything placed on the map is there forever, clutter can be disabled (very low terrain detail).

[IceBreakr]

Hmmm...

place bushes and tress...pack everything..check..and do all again...oh no.
i guess i need months for that

...and after weeks im sick of all these Afghanistan map working..i think i stop the projekt and make a China Conflict map, with lot of trees, gras and stuff like that.

i make a zip and give it for free...the map based on real datas and is a good start for everybody.neeeeext!

Welcome to the cruel life of a map maker with limited tools
Get ready for a lot of trial & error.

[Chill xl]

Hmm it isnt that bad... You just have to be prepared and think / research before you do, because (esopecially when the maps get bigger) each step takes alot more time. If you just do what comes up you eventually end up in a situation where you wished you made a different choise. Going back to redo makes you spend that time twice... if going back is even possible...

My best advice for any map maker is to create a design as precise as possible before you start working in Visitor. The more complete the better, smoother and faster you will succeed. In that design you make the heightmap and mask map, these two define the basic overall terrain (elevation and surfaces like forest, sand, rocks etc). Then also design where you want to have villages, towns, cities, bases etc. Then design where you want to have roads gogin from place to place and also design as much as possible the specific features of your map. Doing all this up front allows you to create the sattelite map in just a few itterations rather having to figure out later on where everything you placed in visitor ended up on the sat map. When you know what you want adn where it all needs to go the works in Visitor becomes much easier. There are great tools out there that often work with masks etc, the stuff you could have designed up front.

[stormridersp]

Does anybody knows of any tutorial regarding clutters or would like to share some ideas and infos on that? Its a great feature, very helpful but somewhat hard to work with.

cheers

[jens198]

Does anybody knows of any tutorial regarding clutters or would like to share some ideas and infos on that? Its a great feature, very helpful but somewhat hard to work with.

cheers

http://tactical.nekromantix.com/tact...ground_clutter

Jens

[stormridersp]

Thanks mate!