W.I.P US C.L.S (Combat Logistics Support)Vehicle Pack

[Soul_Assassin]

I thought it looked familiar but couldn't conclusively tell from the picture of DeEspona's model. I looked it up yday and noticed the door texture and wheels that looked the same.

Oh well he could still have permission or get it. I mean if PRACS can use the models why can't he? The dude never mentioned that he made the HEMTT himself (although he didnt mention that he didnt either which is not cool).

but yeh: http://forums.bistudio.com/showpost....6&postcount=27

I have serious doubts we will ever see it in game....ever.

On a side note @ DH, what does PRACS need with DeEspona? They are beautiful models, but out of scale, sometimes wrong shape and generaly "not" game material.

[CarlGustaffa]

He could even have bought it. Shapewise I think most of us would have believed it, and generally I guess it's easier to reduce polys than increase them and get it right

@DH: What I mean is that even if he breaks §20, it doesn't justify you, me, or anyone else breaking §17 You do read rules don't you? Sorry, that was irresistible, hehe...

[F2F_BHO]

just to answer a few questions on my integrity , i bought a couple of these models, made a couple myself, bottom line is i BOUGHT them, they belong to me and probably a million other people in the world, i can pretty much change it to my liking,there wasn't a clause that said i couldn't use them how i deem fit and i never said i wasn't going to give the creators of certain models credit.. for their effort and good work.. some of you guys are the reason there isn't any decent content out.. you kill it before it ever gets done with all the jaw jacking.... Chill out, mind yours and not everyone else's, say kudos and good luck or nothing... Jesus like a bunch of kids telling on each other....

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I thought it looked familiar but couldn't conclusively tell from the picture of DeEspona's model. I looked it up yday and noticed the door texture and wheels that looked the same.

Oh well he could still have permission or get it. I mean if PRACS can use the models why can't he? The dude never mentioned that he made the HEMTT himself (although he didnt mention that he didnt either which is not cool).

but yeh: http://forums.bistudio.com/showpost....6&postcount=27

I have serious doubts we will ever see it in game....ever.

On a side note @ DH, what does PRACS need with DeEspona? They are beautiful models, but out of scale, sometimes wrong shape and generaly "not" game material.

Proxies are made for, yeah we figured that out and yah sooner or later it will be in game...... and usable man i thought you of all the folks in here would be more supportive of new content for the game guess i was wrong...

[Soul_Assassin]

just to answer a few questions on my integrity , i bought a couple of these models, made a couple myself, bottom line is i BOUGHT them, they belong to me and probably a million other people in the world, i can pretty much change it to my liking,there wasn't a clause that said i couldn't use them how i deem fit and i never said i wasn't going to give the creators of certain models credit.. for their effort and good work.. some of you guys are the reason there isn't any decent content out.. you kill it before it ever gets done with all the jaw jacking.... Chill out, mind yours and not everyone else's, say kudos and good luck or nothing... Jesus like a bunch of kids telling on each other....

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Proxies are made for, yeah we figured that out and yah sooner or later it will be in game...... and usable man i thought you of all the folks in here would be more supportive of new content for the game guess i was wrong...

If you bought it, it doesnt bother me, go ahead and do whatever you like I do support new content, but I also support full transparency, so if you would have sated in your first post "oh yeh btw, before anyone says anything, the models are deespona commercial models" would have avoided any misunderstanding to begin with.

As for proxies. True, proxies can help, but not in case of 100k models, maybe if just over the vertex count too big error. Putting aside the large polycount, if your model is made up of many proxies, you run into trouble with things like damage and hiddenselections. Since you cannot change the material codewise on the proxies, you stuck with two options for the damage: either hide the proxies when damage is 100% but if you have many proxies that would basically leave nothing of the damaged model, or hide the proxies and replace them with proxies of damaged versions of the original proxies (see BIS wheeled APC vehicles), also not good since you end up with 2x polies.

[soldier2390]

hey i support the addon too bro, but like many of us feel, if this wasnt ligit then we dont get to use it! but thankfully you so far(or atleast from what you say) or good to go, so i cant wait to see this wonderful addon!

good luck and hope to see this addon see the light of day....or nite, after all there is nite time convoy attacks too..but you know what i mean! lol

Dave,

[Darkhorse 1-6]

@Soul - PRACS has permission because wld427 got it, and atleast one artillery model is already ingame and works like a charm. Yes, it was possible he had done the same, or bought them, but since the model and others are scattered over various "freeware" sites it seemed there was a greater chance of one of them being used.


@F2F BHO -
I apologize for overreacting a bit, but you should understand that since those models were stolen many years back and spread around the net there was a big chance you had gotten it from one of those sites. I have nothing against you or your work, and I am extremely supportive of new content, as long as it is legal. Thanks for clearing it up.

I wish you luck with your projects, especially the M107 HEB, as nobody has created a working bridge system yet. As for the HEMTT do you plan on creating a version without the trailer?

[F2F_BHO]

i don't know , what i plan on doing at this point, i was highly discouraged this morning after reading the post.

@ Soul Assassin- it seems just about every post i have run into you in , you seem to be very negative, and i don't have to spell out anything to anyone until i am good and ready, when the project is done , and works then the proper credit will be given to the creators of any models, scripts or whatever i use @ that time and not before.
i am not sure if this mod will work as a whole. as for my Rim 116 that was made before i understood the complexities of moving models between O2 and 3ds, i now have a better understanding of that and i made the HP version, and i can also make the LP version as well, cause i made it and its mine so i will get it into game just a matter of time...so for you to say you don't think it will make it , says alot about you and how negative your comments are around the community, i still expect more from a person who has been around OFP and Arma as long as you have been.. so i guess now i must throw this in your face and finish it and it work and then just say Ha..... and just take your comments for what they are really worth .

[Soul_Assassin]

@ Soul Assassin- it seems just about every post i have run into you in , you seem to be very negative, and i don't have to spell out anything to anyone until i am good and ready, when the project is done , and works then the proper credit will be given to the creators of any models, scripts or whatever i use @ that time and not before.
i am not sure if this mod will work as a whole. as for my Rim 116 that was made before i understood the complexities of moving models between O2 and 3ds, i now have a better understanding of that and i made the HP version, and i can also make the LP version as well, cause i made it and its mine so i will get it into game just a matter of time...so for you to say you don't think it will make it , says alot about you and how negative your comments are around the community, i still expect more from a person who has been around OFP and Arma as long as you have been.. so i guess now i must throw this in your face and finish it and it work and then just say Ha..... and just take your comments for what they are really worth .

dude what negative? I just said that it indeed looked like DeEspona model (which is true) and that you will have major problems putting it in (also true) and further described the areas in detail in which you will have problems, based on my own extensive experience. Im sorry if I hit some kind of nerve but I really havnt pointed out anything that is not true here.

so i will get it into game just a matter of time...so for you to say you don't think it will make it , says alot about you and how negative your comments are around the community

{ ∀ "sentences" : "I don't think" ∈ "sentence" } ⇒ { "sentence" ≡ "negative sentence" } ??

and what is the community got to do with anything? Because I ask questions and raise doubts, should not impact the community in any way.

i still expect more from a person who has been around OFP and Arma as long as you have been

ok ok I promise, next screenshot I will jump up and down and clap my hands then I will call deEspona and we will go drink beer all night to celebrate. j/k don't take these comments for more than they are worth. They are really not worth anything.

[F2F_BHO]

Rog ,, its all good . no Hate on my end. its just a game right..........

[Soul_Assassin]

indeed no hate here either