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    To my knowledge all Apaches fitted with M-TADS (aka Arrowhead) have TEDAC (TADS Electronic Display and Control). TEDAC has also been fitted to all Block II and newer AH-64D Apaches.

    New M-TADS/PNVS (Arrowhead)



    Old TADS/PNVS


    Gunners cockpit: WAH-64D with MTADS and TEDAC


    Gunners cockpit: AH-64D with TADS and ORT (Optical Relay Tube)

    (This is what you currently have in the BIS Apache)

    Lockheed TEDAC brochure:
    http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/a...FC_TADS_PC.pdf

    Lockheed Arrowhead brochure:
    http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/a...rowhead_PC.pdf

    Lockheed M-DSA brochure:
    http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/a...A_ProdCard.pdf

    I can't find much on M-DSA besides for what components are included in the upgrade. It looks to me like the external appearance of the whole sensor housing won't change.
    Last edited by ReconTeam; Oct 10 2010 at 21:25.

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    M-DSA housing- Even if not yet used we'll be including it as the 'most advanced' model, there are some other cockpit changes to Block III that will be included such as-

    VUIT-2 http://www.army.mil/-images/2008/02/...-20-112524.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...-20-112521.jpg and UTA (for lead apache's) http://www.lockheedmartin.com/produc...uta/index.html Basicly only block 3 will be able to control UAV's, VUIT-2 would have the ability but lack the extra things you can do with FCR, whereas UTA would supply both radar and UAS control.

    some other cockpit changes http://www.imagereferencedatabase.co...seat_pilot.jpg

    Filter covered engine nacelle's http://www.imagereferencedatabase.co..._apache_27.jpg

    Possible an extended engine plate behind the exhaust http://www.flickr.com/photos/runway2...65043/sizes/o/ http://www.visualintel.net/Army/Syst...0_Exbbw-XL.jpg

    more sensors on the body as well as whatever that is aong the tailboom. http://www.imagereferencedatabase.co...59-60-Yes.html though this will be included with the latest AH-64A as well. http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../6/1686612.jpg

    For now though any updates and work will have to wait, it seems I've gone and gotten sick to the level of light headedness and hurling, so I'll be held up in bed for a bit.
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    Hi,

    I'm not sure if you will be doing any versions from countries other than the US, but if you will do a Dutch version of the Ah-64D this link might come in handy.
    It shows the AH-64D with aftermarker AMASE(Apache Modular Aircraft Survivability Equipment) installed at the end of the stub wing.
    It houses flares and the system for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lennard View Post
    Hi,

    I'm not sure if you will be doing any versions from countries other than the US, but if you will do a Dutch version of the Ah-64D this link might come in handy.
    It shows the AH-64D with aftermarker AMASE(Apache Modular Aircraft Survivability Equipment) installed at the end of the stub wing.
    It houses flares and the system for it.
    They've actually changed the pods now. Its been replaced/upgraded by TERMA with a DIRCM turret and a new type of flare/chaff charge.

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    NodUnit, this Apache is beautiful! Do you have any plans for making a Nod version?

    Grey camouflage with C&C1 Nod logos?

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    As stated previously, if the pack takes flight (no pun intended) and goes well then multi nation is planned to the extent of all body parts not just a retextuer.

    Oh a Nod apache..you know I hadn't actually thought of that..perhaps a dark grey for the alpha and a sort of urban camo for a delta, similar style to the JGSDF longbow or perhaps a mix of that and the Israeli scheme.

    I'll see what I can provide for updates now that the sickness is gone, felt a bit bored when working on the interior so instead I'm going to finish up on the outside, tailwheel, landing gear and what have you.
    Last edited by NodUnit; Oct 14 2010 at 21:33.

  7. #117
    I wasn't aware of many of those other upgrades. Good to see the Apache still has plenty of life in her.

    I wonder if we will get to the point where an "AH-64E" has a fancy F-35-like cockpit.

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    Oh yes this bird has plenty of life, supposedly at least 10-20 more years by which I'm sure she'll get even more upgrades by everyone and a few secrets will be shared amongst, the sensors on the US block 3 for example are eerily similar to the sensors mounted on the EFABS of the UK Longbow.

    By the way, question for the UK version, I've noticed on the TADS dayside in many pictures the top sensor (not wanting to get in specific names) is more like the bottom rather than traditional..example http://www.flickr.com/photos/victius...51562/sizes/o/

    There are a few others, not sure if I mentioned the extra sensors located near the engines but you can see them in this photo. http://www.flickr.com/photos/churchwolf/2824466514/

    Also the mysterior "Eggbeater" (self explanatory, located at the start of the tailboom) http://www.flickr.com/photos/arctic_...48675/sizes/o/ it's a bit hard to see in this picture but I cannot find any of the others..

    Also just came across this neat little find. http://www.flickr.com/photos/defenceimages/5038245967/

    And just a nod, even though it is a year old congratulations to the RNAF (Netherlands) for logging 5,000 hours with their apache's http://www.boeing.com/apachenews/200...nal_s5_p2.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by NodUnit View Post
    By the way, question for the UK version, I've noticed on the TADS dayside in many pictures the top sensor (not wanting to get in specific names) is more like the bottom rather than traditional..example http://www.flickr.com/photos/victius...51562/sizes/o/
    I doubt you will get an answer in a public forums. Its safe to say the UK Sensor fit is different than the standard US spec AH-64D. The later Isreali ones are too.

    Quote Originally Posted by NodUnit View Post
    There are a few others, not sure if I mentioned the extra sensors located near the engines but you can see them in this photo. http://www.flickr.com/photos/churchwolf/2824466514/
    That not a UK spec machine. WAH-1 don't have a ALQ-144 Jammer.

    But best guess is that is a pressure sensor mounting. I would continue to guess that its to monitor the pressure under the rotor in hot and high environments eg Afghanistan.

    Quote Originally Posted by NodUnit View Post
    Also the mysterior "Eggbeater" (self explanatory, located at the start of the tailboom) http://www.flickr.com/photos/arctic_...48675/sizes/o/ it's a bit hard to see in this picture but I cannot find any of the others..]
    Its an aerial for a specific US radio fit. The latest Kiowas have the too. But looking at the exhaust setup on that pic i would suggest that aircraft is a test setup so you may not want to use that for reference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NodUnit View Post
    Oh a Nod apache..you know I hadn't actually thought of that..perhaps a dark grey for the alpha and a sort of urban camo for a delta, similar style to the JGSDF longbow or perhaps a mix of that and the Israeli scheme.
    NodUnit doesnt think about Nodunits.

    But Tores idea is actually nice, if I remember correctly the first GDI/NOD Command & Conquer featured indeed some real vehicles, like the Apache, unlike the successors who went full-scfi.

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