Best Tactical Shooters for PC

[vini_lessa]

Pick the best 3 all-time Tac Shooter for you and, if you dont mind, say why. I tried joining sequences that were basically an incremented version of the original, in a single entry.

[Jakerod]

Well I would say OFP, ArmA, ArmA II- Why? Open worlds, a lot of commands, vehicles, replaybility.

Outside of those...

SWAT 4- I have only played the demo but I like it a lot. I like the idea of not having to kill people but to actually follow procedure.

Rainbow 6- The first tactical shooter I had ever played. It was the N64 version but I enjoyed it.

I'm not entirely sure I have played any others actually. Rogue Spear demo was fun. SWAT 3 never worked on my computer but I am sure I would've enjoyed it. The demo was fun at least. There was an old MAC game I played that was fun at my friend's house. Damage Incorporated I think. I can't remember much about it but if it was a tactical shooter I would count it.

[Beagle]

Hidden and Dangerous was my first of this genre and the one that made the biggest impression on me.

[Thunderbird]

ArmA II

[SiC-Disaster]

Rainbow Six. The first one and Rogue Spear, best games in the series. Too bad i cant get it to work properly anymore :(

After that Hidden and Dangerous 1 and 2, H&D1 was like the first game for me, together with the first R6, played them both at the same time.
H&D for the open environment, R6 for proper CQB. Love them both.

Then Operation Flashpoint, made the biggest impression on me due to its huge open environments, the campaign's story and the vehicular combat that came along with it.
It's just pure gold.

Swat 4 is also a great game, the command system in that game is unequalled, perhaps only by simplicity in Battlezone 1 and 2.
Also i like how that game makes you feel that every kill is a fuck-up on your account.
CQB entries are amazing :)

I played Ghost Recon a lot as well, but the replayability of it hasnt really matured really well.
It's still a good game to play every often but without random enemy placement in missions it can get a bit stale, which leads to me rushing things and dying because of the rushing :p
Still, on your first go playing the game, it is nothing but absolute awesomeness. The AI does some pretty amazing stuff there, especially when they come under fire.
They dont just seek hard cover, but if there is none to be found they will actively seek out dark shadows to ly low in. F'ing amazing.

[Sanctuary]

Operation Flashpoint , while i would not put it into the tactical shooter genre due to its more expanded scope, it broke so many grounds to me that i continue to work on it and don't see myself moving away from it one day.

Ghost Recon, the best tactical shooter ever, replayability extremely high considering i play again from time to time and always enjoy every minutes of it.

Swat 3, completely awesome in every ways, played this and its impressive free upgrades for years thanks to lots of good community content. One of the best multiplayer pre-game system i saw too with the "lobby".

Rogue Spear being a close 4th to me, it was Rainbow Six done entirely better in every ways. Spent so much time in plannification of my assaults, just to end into various catastrophic results when left to AI.

[Leopardi]

Ghost Recon (2001)
America's Army 1
America's Army 2

And upcoming Red Orchestra: Heroes of Stalingrad

[dunedain]

Well first seeing Graw, R6 Vegas and Dragon Rising here is completely outrageous ...


Well secondly they're all really different and I won't try to tell which is the best.

Still that right now, only H&D2, SWAT4, Ghost Recon, RavenShield and Arma2 are the tactical shooters I still play regularly with Project Reality and Red Orchestra.

[Deadfast]

Well first seeing Graw, R6 Vegas and Dragon Rising here is completely outrageous ...

Well, It's a public poll so you know precisely who to direct your rage at :D

[Pauld]

Can i have a revote please in my hastyness to read the thread and vote i clicked on the second from bottom choice and now i fell a terrible erge to smack my head against my computer desk.

but my first choise would of been CWC

[TangoRomeo]

#1 R6,RS gets my vote. From mission pre-planning, roster and kit selection to action phase and MP, there was nothing comparable at that time. 1st Tactical shooter i played, 1st clan ...what a :cool: time it was.
#2 SWAT3+ similar setting, slower paced gameplay, controls felt somewhat crude, MP not that popular. I bought 3&4 + "Stetchkoff".
#3 OFP came later, and the setting is completely different from the above. It plays in it's own league, and due to it's wide scope more of a jack of all trades, master of none - and still under construction. I love it. :D

[GRS]

Cause its not like this poll is going to be biased anyways. :rolleyes:

OFP, Swat 4, and the earlier Ghost recons and Rainbow Six 3's. I tried rogue spear or whatever and quit since the friendly AI couldn't even toss a grenade into a room.

[SASrecon]

Can i have a revote please in my hastyness to read the thread and vote i clicked on the second from bottom choice and now i fell a terrible erge to smack my head against my computer desk.

but my first choise would of been CWC

lmfao, way to not read the title :D

-OFP
-ARMA 1+2
-Sorry to dissapoint all you realism die-hards, but my last choice was 'other';
specifically being cod4 with the 82ndab tactical-realism mod. I tried it out when I played cod4 and didn't play on any other cod4 server ever-since, I was enthralled of it because I could quickly get on for a game if I didn't have much time, all of the players played tactically and were friendly and most of the players on the server had a mic, which made it great fun.
There were also a load of ARMA and ARMA2 players on there :)

[Jakerod]

Cause its not like this poll is going to be biased anyways. :rolleyes:

OFP, Swat 4, and the earlier Ghost recons and Rainbow Six 3's. I tried rogue spear or whatever and quit since the friendly AI couldn't even toss a grenade into a room.
My most memorable moment from that demo was watching as the #2 guy tried to toss a flashbang into a room, hit #1 in the back and blinded the whole team. I still liked it a lot though. I never got around to getting the whole game though.

[riffleman]

operation flashpoint goty i have and play that only

[froggyluv]

R6- totally original pre-planning was great.

Arma2- the culmination of the best open world combat game series.

Swat4- Loved it. Wish they would continue to expand this series.

Never got the love affair with Ghost Recon though I never owned it. I guess the demo is not indicitive of it's greatness as I found that utterly boring.

[vini_lessa]

Thinking again, maybe I should have included Hidden&Dangerous and Delta Force in the place of Vegas and GRAW.

Hey, I got curious about Hidden & Dangerous. I remember playing a demo of it and liking. Is H&D2 worth getting nowadays? (by the way, I dont mind gfx, as Im playing R6 right now).

And comeon Paul, dont be shy - admit you liked Vegas. :D

EDIT: opos, now I see Paul voted in Dragon RIsing, not Vegas.

[Mr Burns]

Never got the love affair with Ghost Recon though I never owned it. I guess the demo is not indicitive of it's greatness as I found that utterly boring.


It´s an even more slow paced game than ArmA. Incredibly difficult at times, but most rewarding if you can actually beat the mission. Also the Spetsgruppa Vympel mod added some amazingly well made and researched units & weapons. The maker of the mod (and OFP´s never to be forgotten Marine Assault Pack) now being employed at BI´s, is speaking for the quality of said mods.
http://www.baconbomb.com/modworks/index.html

GR1 should be freeware by now, i remember having it downloaded. Comes at the cost of ingame advertising, but i´ve never seen that, most likely helps telling your firewall to block the gr.exe:D

[Leopardi]

I forgot the absolute best tactical shooter from my list. Project IGI. that game kicked some major ass.

[HyperU2]

All ARMA, any OpF before DR, any Rainbow Six before Vegas, Any GR before 2, and all the SWATs.

[Baff1]

Hidden and Dangerous 2, Rogue Spear and Ghost Recon would be my top 3.

[Binkowski]

anything made by bis?

[W0lle]

ArmA II of course, and SWAT 4. :)

and DR, not
:rofl:

[BangTail]

Hidden and Dangerous = Class
BIS Games (OFP, A1 A2)
R6 (up until Letdown)
SWAT 3 & 4
GR (I liked the originals better but to give Ubiwank some credit, the GRAW series was actually pretty good)

[swtx]

Arma 2 and don't forget about Operation Arrowhead. I know it's not out yet, but it's sure to be as solid as Arma 2 if not better. :D:cool:

[Sanctuary]

Never got the love affair with Ghost Recon though I never owned it. I guess the demo is not indicitive of it's greatness as I found that utterly boring.
I agree the demo was rather boring, it did not catched my attention as i found my try at it being just uninteresting.
It was reading some of my friends that opinion on this genre i trusted, making an extremely positive review of the full game that got me buying it.

Never regretted this money spent, the game was so good that i even went to buy both expansion when they were released.
Replaying it from time to time is always a nice experience especially with the very good quality mods and campaigns available.


It´s an even more slow paced game than ArmA. Incredibly difficult at times, but most rewarding if you can actually beat the mission. Also the Spetsgruppa Vympel mod added some amazingly well made and researched units & weapons. The maker of the mod (and OFP´s never to be forgotten Marine Assault Pack) now being employed at BI´s, is speaking for the quality of said mods.
http://www.baconbomb.com/modworks/index.html

GR has a lot of very high quality mods, i always have that Spetsgruppa Vympel (http://www.baconbomb.com/modworks/index.html) installed along many other mods (currently in the middle of the nice campaign/mod "Udmurtia Spetsnaz (http://www.ghostrecon.net/files2/index.php?act=view&id=760)" ) .
Have been amazed for a long time by eskwaad work (http://picasaweb.google.fr/eskwaad) in Centcom (http://www.ghostrecon.net/files2/index.php?act=view&id=538)

[Soldier of Anarchy]

Although I've ran modded OFP longer than playing ARMA 1 & 2 combined, I still have to put them first before OFP....So it would go ARMA 2 - ARMA 1 - OFP.


No other set of games gave me the building blocks to actually make my own fun like they have. Large maps, endless replay are only the tip of the iceberg. All war games I play are judged by my experience with these , so the bar is set rather high.

COD-MW games and their ilk need not apply for space on my HD.

[SiC-Disaster]

Thinking again, maybe I should have included Hidden&Dangerous and Delta Force in the place of Vegas and GRAW.

Hey, I got curious about Hidden & Dangerous. I remember playing a demo of it and liking. Is H&D2 worth getting nowadays? (by the way, I dont mind gfx, as Im playing R6 right now).

And comeon Paul, dont be shy - admit you liked Vegas. :D

EDIT: opos, now I see Paul voted in Dragon RIsing, not Vegas.

Hidden and Dangerous 2 is really, really great. If you can get your hands on it, do it as quickly and as soon as possible.
The control scheme is still among the best in the genre, as there are numerous ways to move around.
You can sneak, walk, jog, and sprint, most of these movement speeds can be utilized in the games three body stances (which are obvious and i guess need no mention), obviously there is leaning, climbing on stuff up to shoulder height.

But most importantly, almost all of the missions have been designed with so much care for level design that even though the graphics are outdated by now, the game still looks great because it looks kinda vintage but still has an awesome amount of detail, just like Mafia is still fantastic in that way.
The variation of missions is amazing, and you'll almost never get the same objective twice.
Examples: the taking and clearing of a U-boat stationed at a small glacier island, ambushing a train in a tunnel clearing the entire train of Germans in very close quarters combat, setting up an ambush in a small town in the Chzech republic, defending a bank complex in France, retrieving top secret info from German tech labs in Poland, the assault of a coastal battery located in an old castle on the coast of France, helping local resistance clearing out a local farmland and capturing a local traitor, and one of my favourites: using a small diveboat for 2 men to deploy explosives on the hulls of warships guarding a larger vessel, which then needs to be cleared out in search of a special decoding box etc.
The mission terrains are very varied as well, going from Poland to France, Africa, Burma, etc etc.

There are a lot of weapons too, and soldiers can gain experience with each of them, though sometimes not very noticeable.
Imagine that if you use a rifle throughout the mission, the character might improve his rifles stat with 0.3%.
But after the long campaign is over, he will have improved, and having him die after so many missions and finally getting good (other then Ghost Recon, where i thought of it mostly as a gimmick, because it was pretty quick), you really care for them.

Simply put, get it ASAP. And that goes for everybody.
Oh, and the expansion too, because then you get to play it in coop.

[Heatseeker]

Definetly SWAT3, im not much into CQB gameplay but you have to give credit where credit is due and SWAT3 simply nailed it.

R6 was tactical but it lacked the authenticity and a.i.
GR was cool, thats about it.
OFP and Arma series are not tactical shooters, seriously.

[vini_lessa]

Definetly SWAT3, im not much into CQB gameplay but you have to give credit where credit is due and SWAT3 simply nailed it.

R6 was tactical but it lacked the authenticity and a.i.
GR was cool, thats about it.
OFP and Arma series are not tactical shooters, seriously.

Youre kidding right? The original Rainbow Six kind of defined the genre.

[Kernriver]

I did vote, but it's not fair to other games that I didn't vote for, so here's my list:

1. OFP/ArmA/ArmA2 (not tactical shooters obviously)
2. Swat 3/4
3. Hidden & dangerous 1/2 (+ Sabre squadron)
4. Raven shield (+ expansions)
5. Ghost recon (+ expansions)

Not necessarily in that order though, except #1 :D

[Heatseeker]

Youre kidding right? The original Rainbow Six kind of defined the genre.

Not as far as authenticity goes, thats why my vote goes to swat 3 :) .

[Baff1]

Hidden and Dangerous 2 is really, really great. If you can get your hands on it, do it as quickly and as soon as possible.
The control scheme is still among the best in the genre, as there are numerous ways to move around.
You can sneak, walk, jog, and sprint, most of these movement speeds can be utilized in the games three body stances (which are obvious and i guess need no mention), obviously there is leaning, climbing on stuff up to shoulder height.

But most importantly, almost all of the missions have been designed with so much care for level design that even though the graphics are outdated by now, the game still looks great because it looks kinda vintage but still has an awesome amount of detail, just like Mafia is still fantastic in that way.
The variation of missions is amazing, and you'll almost never get the same objective twice.
Examples: the taking and clearing of a U-boat stationed at a small glacier island, ambushing a train in a tunnel clearing the entire train of Germans in very close quarters combat, setting up an ambush in a small town in the Chzech republic, defending a bank complex in France, retrieving top secret info from German tech labs in Poland, the assault of a coastal battery located in an old castle on the coast of France, helping local resistance clearing out a local farmland and capturing a local traitor, and one of my favourites: using a small diveboat for 2 men to deploy explosives on the hulls of warships guarding a larger vessel, which then needs to be cleared out in search of a special decoding box etc.
The mission terrains are very varied as well, going from Poland to France, Africa, Burma, etc etc.

There are a lot of weapons too, and soldiers can gain experience with each of them, though sometimes not very noticeable.
Imagine that if you use a rifle throughout the mission, the character might improve his rifles stat with 0.3%.
But after the long campaign is over, he will have improved, and having him die after so many missions and finally getting good (other then Ghost Recon, where i thought of it mostly as a gimmick, because it was pretty quick), you really care for them.

Simply put, get it ASAP. And that goes for everybody.
Oh, and the expansion too, because then you get to play it in coop.

I'd like to concur with this post.
The level design in this game is positively beautiful.
A single maple leaf drifting down in front of your sniper in the autumn time.

Missions are not only engrossing but they are authentic to the actual missions of special forces of the war.
While they are all clearly invented, they are actually all extremely close to real operations and raids that took place. This is a very, very authentic shooter.
In fact this is the most authentic shooter I've ever played. The sort of thing that woudl make your son breeze his history project.

It's rich in features also.
You can use all the vehicles and man each position in them, you can loot bodies. It has a great damage model, grass mashes down when you lie on it leaving a trail. You can climb stuff. Choose operatives from almost any nation for your team. Soul swap, stealth, shoot peoples hats off their heads and guns out of their hands!
Weight based inventory system.
Wire cutting through fences, flip flopping around in scuba gear...
Disguise! The ability to wear enemy uniforms and equipment and not get shot at.
Co-op, battlefield type conquest, and team deathmatch modes.. for MP. Dedicated servers for up to 30 players. A good choice of authentic uniforms to customise yourself with.
Weak spots on tank armour...

This game launched the same week as Call Of Duty and consequently never really got the attention it deserved.

I'm gutted that they never made their Cold War theatre continuation, Enemy in Sight.

Another much underplayed Tac Shooter would be "The Regiment" a budget SAS shooter. Have a bit of co-op fun in the London Underground or Iranian Embassy. A good blast that one, plays much the same as Ravenshield/America's Army but teaches you the SAS way of doing it.
Best of British in it's theme. The SAS training and introductory videos delivered by actual SAS men who took part in the embassy assault and IRA raids portrayed.

[BangTail]

Another much underplayed Tac Shooter would be "The Regiment" a budget SAS shooter. Have a bit of co-op fun in the London Underground or Iranian Embassy. A good blast that one, plays much the same as Ravenshield/America's Army but teaches you the SAS way of doing it.
Best of British in it's theme. The SAS training and introductory videos delivered by actual SAS men who took part in the embassy assault and IRA raids portrayed.

I really enjoyed The Regiment, it's a shame it wasn't developed as a full price title.

I'm going to install H&D2 again, what a great game :)

[SASrecon]

anything made by bis?
You sure?
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Main Features

* Fairytale adventure
* Charming cartoon like graphic
* Does not contain violence
* Suitable for children
* Simple control system designed for beginners
* A game the whole family can enjoy
Maybe you should rephrase that to 'any sim/fps made by bis :D '

[Nielsneo]

1. OFP : CWC , gold , Resistance
2. ArmA 1 + 2
3. Other........I know it is not a shooter but i found it to be one of the best tactical mout simulations. Full Spectrum Warrior.

Never played the original GR, R6 and SWAT games because i found them just too boring. I guess the demos might not given the games enough justice but i just did'nt felt engaged enough to keep playing.:(

[Jakerod]

1. OFP : CWC , gold , Resistance
2. ArmA 1 + 2
3. Other........I know it is not a shooter but i found it to be one of the best tactical mout simulations. Full Spectrum Warrior.

Never played the original GR, R6 and SWAT games because i found them just too boring. I guess the demos might not given the games enough justice but i just did'nt felt engaged enough to keep playing.:(
I think Rainbow 6 and SWAT were both very good. GR was good for urban combat but couldn't match OFP in wilderness settings.

[gulag]

Arma2
Arma1
The Regiment, forgotten but really nice. (not on list)
Rainbow 6

[Soldier of Anarchy]

I think your play style constitutes whether OFP-ARMA-ARMA2 are tactical shooters. Certain people will treat them as "Run N Gun" shooters, most will use them as Simulation shooters....and obliviously a portion here do see them as tactical shooters.

Hell they could be racing games/shooters, if you choose to play em that way :rolleyes:

[ck-claw]

3. Other........I know it is not a shooter but i found it to be one of the best tactical mout simulations. Full Spectrum Warrior.


Yeah i found that a cracking game! :)

[Royal-Killer]

1. OFP CWC
2. ArmA 1
3. ArmA 2
4. OFP 2 DR

[Leopardi]

1. OFP CWC
2. ArmA 1
3. ArmA 2
4. OFP 2 DR
List of fail. And it's not ofp 2 dr, just ofp dr.

[Zipper5]

Wow... DR better than the original Ghost Recons and Rainbow Sixes? Or even SWAT 4? Christ... :butbut:

[Jakerod]

Wow... DR better than the original Ghost Recons and Rainbow Sixes? Or even SWAT 4? Christ... :butbut:
Maybe he never played them.

[Baff1]

I dunnno, I played SWAT 4 and DR is higher up on my list too.

Such a dull game. ticks all the right boxes... and yet... so dull.

[Jakerod]

I dunnno, I played SWAT 4 and DR is higher up on my list too.

Such a dull game. ticks all the right boxes... and yet... so dull.
I find the demo to be a lot of fun. I haven't gotten around to buying the full game yet but i've played the demo for a long time.

[SiC-Disaster]

How is kicking down doors and scaring the living crap out of supects not fun? :p

Really though, Swat 4 has a cool way of having a slow build-up with a quite frantic action pace when you clear a room.
All the while flashbangs go off and people are yelling back and forth, and there's the tension of suspects reacting to you in different ways.
Sometimes they'll immediately surrender, sometimes they put their hands up but suddenly move to shoot, sometimes they'll run away, sometimes they just shoot on sight, so many possibilities you need to check within 2 seconds, sometimes there'll be panicking hostages running around and the chance of surrendering directly ties in with how effective and agressive your takedown of the room was.

Imagine you just open a door, casually lean through it and yell at a suspect.
Usually his first reaction will be to fire at you.
However, when a SWAT team blows out two doors at once, throws in flashbangs and follow suit, yelling with guns raised high while they are still temporarily blinded, they'll most likely surrender.
Ofcourse there can always be someone who still says fuck you, but after beating or peppersprayin him they will be forced to comply as well.

And afterwards you cant turn your back on surrendered suspects because they will easily pick their gun back up and shoot you in the head when no-one is watching.
The amount of tactics you can apply is quite simply great. I recently picked up the habit of having 1 or 2 teammembers take doorwedges with them.
Usually i wedge doors on one side of a hallway, then quickly sweep clean the other side, so i wont get any nasty surprises in the back.
And sometimes i use them to block off possible exits, heightening the danger of a room takedown, but keeping all the apples in one basket :D
Because after all, when someone flees in panick and bumps into a locked door, he's gonna panick some more, turn around and shoot whatevers in sight to save himself, meaning your assault has to be even more agressive to keep them from running in the first place.

In the end, when an assault on a large and difficult room has succeeded with no loss of life, it feels really great.
When there are some casualties, you'll most likely feel responsible for the fuck-up, and ofcourse other times the assault goes completely FUBAR.

Man, i just need to play it again right now :o

[vini_lessa]

Yeah, SWAT games have the factor 'hostages' and its crazy fun. They added it in Rainbow Six 3 but its not as cool as in SWAT. I remember in SWAT 3, a boy crying and shouting after I shot his dad in the leg. I had to pepperspray the boy cause he was uncontrollable.

By the way, in the poll the Rainbow Six 3 should ve been joined with R6 1 and 2. As Im replaying it right now and think its essencialy the same game but incremented. ;)

[riffleman]

IGI2 should be there in list,threadmaker how misses that great game.

[MadDogX]

IGI2 should be there in list,threadmaker how misses that great game.
The number of options for a poll is limited. You of all people should know that. :rolleyes:

[riffleman]

The number of options for a poll is limited. You of all people should know that. :rolleyes:
one thing is very clear,IGI2 is most played game,if i ask any child who have computer that did he play IGI2 and answer is always yes.i have seen very much fan of IGI2,than ofp.

[SiC-Disaster]

Well hostages are handled differently in Raven Shield and Rogue Spear as opposed to Swat 4, mainly because the terrorists in R6 are prone to execute hostages very quickly.
And i've never seen that happen before in Swat 4, perhaps once or twice did a suspect threaten a hostage with a gun but they wait so long before executing them that there's almost no danger of hostages dying, except maybe when you shoot them yourself.
However, in R6 you had best remain out of sight untill you are close enough to use a flashbang and get the hell in asap before the tango's have recovered enough to get an aim on a hostage, because they will be executed without mercy or a second thought.
And flashbangs are less effective in R6, so you'll have to act extremely fast.

[DMarkwick]

Aside from OFP/ArmA/ArmA2, the most fun I ever had in a tactical shooter was had in Hidden & Dangerous 2. The MP connections were flaky, the missions were designed for 4-man teams, but the WW2 settings were perfect and the AI were suitably sneaky in managing to surprise you. Several times I've been terrified by the sight of a German soldier creeping around a corner that I was just about to creep around...

And, PvP was also a hoot. I particularly remember a tense cat & mouse game I was playing with a friend of mine, in a bombed-out town street. Creeping from room to room in partially destroyed buildings, ascending stairs holding your breath, dreading the accidental crunching of glass under your boot (which the other player could sometimes hear). Once I managed to find my friend in a room, he was watching out the second story window trying to snipe me down the street where he thought I was, I crept up behind him and placed my gun behind his head and pulled the trigger. *click* no ammo :D he heard it and turned around and shot me.

[DayGlow]

I always enjoyed the SWAT series more than R6. Mainly because R6 was so ridged to the plan. The ai simply could not adapt to any surprise. Even RS with breach commands did not work outside what was scripted. SWAT with a good voice control program was simply more flexible in a dynamic CQB environment. SWAT 4 improved everything over 3 except one critical area. They dropped material penitration. SWAT 3 was amazing in this regard and really punished a player that didn't understand cover vs concealment. SWAT 4 dropped this because it was to 'hard' for players it seemed.

[Sanctuary]

Indeed, SWAT 3 had an awesome material penetration system.

I remember in the training map spending much time with those various material panels in the underground floor to test how each of them and combination of them would react to various kind of ammo.

[BangTail]

Indeed, SWAT 3 had an awesome material penetration system.

I remember in the training map spending much time with those various material panels in the underground floor to test how each of them and combination of them would react to various kind of ammo.

Yeah, SWAT 3 was really good in that respect. It was really comprehensive.

[Baff1]

And, PvP was also a hoot. I particularly remember a tense cat & mouse game I was playing with a friend of mine, in a bombed-out town street. Creeping from room to room in partially destroyed buildings, ascending stairs holding your breath, dreading the accidental crunching of glass under your boot (which the other player could sometimes hear). Once I managed to find my friend in a room, he was watching out the second story window trying to snipe me down the street where he thought I was, I crept up behind him and placed my gun behind his head and pulled the trigger. *click* no ammo :D he heard it and turned around and shot me.

Clint Eastwood moment.

Shoot a players hat off. As he walks down the road to reclaim it.....as he is just reaching out to pick it up again.....

Shoot it again so it bounces further down the road away from him.

Repeat this process until he hates you.

[Laqueesha]

Original Ghost Recon for me, all the way. ;)

Nearly ten years after its release, its still one of the more realistic shooters around. I remembered taking cover behind a hill or a tree with my team wiped out; simply because I was suppressed by enemy light machine gun fire and too scared to move out into the open and get shot and killed. Now, if that's not fear, then I don't know what fear is. :D


1. OFP CWC
2. ArmA 1
3. ArmA 2
4. OFP 2 DR

Well look on the bright side everybody, at least he didn't say that Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising was more realistic than ArmA 2.

[Kernriver]

Does anyone know if there's something like "ironsights mod" for Swat4?
I found it for Raven shield, but it seems no one made it for Swat4.

[Laqueesha]

Does anyone know if there's something like "ironsights mod" for Swat4?
I found it for Raven shield, but it seems no one made it for Swat4.

There was one for the expansion pack, but all it did was increase the zoom and put a 2D overlay. Not very good; I still don't understand why the developers didn't integrate ironsights into the game, would've made tense shootouts even more exciting.

[bravo 6]

My choice was Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis.

Best game i ever enjoyed and played longer. Still play it nowadays.

After OFP will be ArmA2.

[FalornHope]

This is absolutely and most definitely the exact same thread I found in the Battlefield Bad Company 2 UK forums...

And pretty much exactly the same result... I remember Arma getting 75% of the vote there too...

[dunedain]

Battlefield Bad Company 2 UK forums.. Well most of the game listed here are way too old for the average guy you'll find there.

[FalornHope]

On the American forums, yes, this kinda of stuff would befuddle those people, but the UK forums are far more mature...

In general, most people on both forums complain about realism, yet ignore the fact that there are games that are plenty realistic and they don't need to change a game that is already made.

[DayGlow]

There was one for the expansion pack, but all it did was increase the zoom and put a 2D overlay. Not very good; I still don't understand why the developers didn't integrate ironsights into the game, would've made tense shootouts even more exciting.

The main problem with ironsights and optics is that no game has properly simulated both eyes open when shooting. It's bad enough in ArmA with it's medium to long range firefights having no real sight dynamics, but in a CQB game it wouldn't be fun at all.

[Kernriver]

There was one for the expansion pack, but all it did was increase the zoom and put a 2D overlay. Not very good; I still don't understand why the developers didn't integrate ironsights into the game, would've made tense shootouts even more exciting.

Hey, great! You wouldn't happen to know what the mod is called, or even have a link to it? :o

[jdonner]

Lots of them

[Commando84]

ofp cwc ftw :) rainbow six and arma 1 and 2 are great tactical games too.
though choice there, I mean ghost recon are good and well Imo the latest rainbow six vegas games where pretty nice too maybe a but too short but great fun still in coop :)

[***LeGeNDK1LLER***]

i had very good times with rainbow six raven shield.soooooo fun.6 years have passed :(

[mortyfero99]

Seal Team, Ofp, Arma 2.