Flashpoint on xbox [Archive] - Bohemia Interactive Forums

Darkhawk

Apr 17 2002, 13:50

Good choice of console; The Xbox will be the only one that could properly do it with an 8Gb hard drive for patches or add on's witch you can download off the net. but yes I totaly agree you will lose the combat sim idea and it will turn into a FPS also I dont know how the ping would be from an xbox if you decide to connect all of us together http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Hilandor

Apr 17 2002, 14:51

does the xbox come with a keyboard?? if not then i dont hold much hope for all the key commands put onto a joypad =[[

PHY_Hawkeye

Apr 17 2002, 15:48

I've said it before, OFP is not suited to console gaming.

It doesn't come with a ketybord as far as I know, but if MS release one then it really will be nothing more than a glorified Gaming PC.

deathguy

Apr 17 2002, 19:12

I agree that ofp is not for console play. Anyway, I just hate so much the Xbox because of is big size. Did you guys have already try the joystick of the Xbox? IT'S HUGE!!! That console is not playable because of that.

BIS, don't release OFP on Xbox, it's a waste of time. No one will buy it because the console sux.

barret

Apr 17 2002, 21:47

I wonder where the guys witht eh Xboxes will get the new upgrades from?

Die Alive

Apr 18 2002, 01:12

or the user missions, addons, more campaigns, mods, new weapons, sounds, etc... Man, I'd put away the game after a month or two if there wasn't the user made missions, or addons, and the mission editor.

I can see people just compare OFP to HALO... how sad.

-=Die Alive=-

hkg3

Apr 18 2002, 02:47

X-Box is that not just an odds and sods of outdated lowpowered, lowspeed bits out of an old pc jammed in a box?

eskimo jackson

Apr 18 2002, 03:12

first of all , the controller for the xbox are just fine like they are. not too big not too small and extremly good to handle.
i like the idea of OFP for xbox . the ping will be excellent as you can only connect via broadband.
true, editing and making mission or scripting cant be done on the xbox but well that is what you have the pc for http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif i dont know what and if there will be an integrated browser and i havent checked the xbobx online capabilities yet but i for sure would gt ofp for xbox aswell. simpling because it has amazing graphics and loading times. afterall the xbox is just a pc optimized for gaming. so if they get it to work that you can make your missions and scripting on pc , upload it and download it onto the xbox it would really rock and the community would surely benefit.

furthermore , i dont think you necessaryly need a keyboard to play ofp....

Antichrist

Apr 18 2002, 04:41

So does XBOX has a mouse?

Tex [USMC]

Apr 18 2002, 05:04

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (eskimo jackson @ April 18 2002,05:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">first of all , the controller for the xbox are just fine like they are. not too big not too small and extremly good to handle.
i like the idea of OFP for xbox . the ping will be excellent as you can only connect via broadband.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yeah, I really like the Xbox controller. I dont know about better pings though. I tried playing Halo via Gayspys Xbox tunnel prog... and pings were not too good. but I will admit that that was pretty jury rigged, and Im sure a professional product would perform better.

eskimo jackson

Apr 18 2002, 05:05

no , it doesnt have a mouse , but what do you need it for ? the aiming of any FPS works just fine with the thumbsticks. i didnt believe it myself at first but then i played max payne and it is just fine. unusual at first of course but i like it ..

Wright

Apr 18 2002, 07:38

I have to agree with Jackson,

The Xbox may be a glorified pc but it's one that they can optimize for developing the game and make the graphics top notch. The controllers are great unless you have tiny hands and there are enough buttons/joysticks to get the job done.
I'm hoping that they don't dumb it down too much for xbox and keep with the original theme, I can't really see a reason not too as a lot of the xbox market seems to be older with it's hometheater capabilities and all. As long as BIS releases content once in a while through the ethernet port I think multiplayer will thrive. Bis, I salute your decision and I hope you give the xbox version the attention it deserves.

Antichrist

Apr 18 2002, 09:31

but Max Payne is not FPS
U can probably play it with steering wheel!! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

deathguy

Apr 18 2002, 16:53

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (eskimo jackson @ April 18 2002,00:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">first of all , the controller for the xbox are just fine like they are. not too big not too small and extremly good to handle.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You must be joking. The xbox contreler is f*cking big. I don't have little hands, and it's imposible to play a single game with it. Xbox is the worst console out there.

scario

Apr 18 2002, 19:42

Deathguy, i think you just dont like Microsoft or something, because xBox is a very cool thing, and definitively the best console out there. Go on BIS! ***http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

deathguy

Apr 18 2002, 20:39

1. well, it's the error blue screen that I hate most with Microsoft (Windows)

2. Xbox is not cool because it's big. When I say that the controler is big, it's a faq. I have already try the joystick of the Xbox, and it's not playable. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif That is why I have not buy it and that I hate it.

barret

Apr 18 2002, 21:22

I Cried for an hour when I herd about ofp on xbox.

barret

Apr 18 2002, 21:25

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (scario @ April 18 2002,21:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Deathguy, i think you just dont like Microsoft or something, because xBox is a very cool thing[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I hate Microsoft! I would use Linux or even a fuckin apple because Microsofte made windows. The only reason I have windows is because it came with the computer. If it were my choice, I would have used dos, basic, and/or hex coding. This really pisses me off.

timmy

Apr 18 2002, 21:31

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (barret @ April 18 2002,04:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If it were my choice, I would have used dos, basic, and/or hex coding. This really pisses me off.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
why the hell would you want your desktop to be a black screen with white words. It be like a computer from 1980

Die Alive

Apr 18 2002, 21:45

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (timmy @ April 18 2002,16:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">why the hell would you want your desktop to be a black screen with white words. It be like a computer from 1980[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I was using DOS up to 1996. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

-=Die Alive=-

barret

Apr 18 2002, 21:51

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (timmy @ April 18 2002,23:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (barret @ April 18 2002,04:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If it were my choice, I would have used dos, basic, and/or hex coding. This really pisses me off.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
why the hell would you want your desktop to be a black screen with white words. It be like a computer from 1980[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I grew up with a Commadore 64 (64 Kb) and that had a blue screen. Memorisiing all of the basic codes, and hex codes is why I'm such a great hacker/viri maker.

eskimo jackson

Apr 18 2002, 22:57

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (deathguy @ April 19 2002,08:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">2. Xbox is not cool because it's big. When I say that the controler is big, it's a faq. I have already try the joystick of the Xbox, and it's not playable. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif That is why I have not buy it and that I hate it.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
its a faq ? do you mean : it is a fact ? *confused*

and why you 'have not buy' it is because your parents wouldnt give you the money , right ? http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
to be a little nitpick, it isnt a joystick but a thumbstick. you use them with your thumbs , not the whole hand http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

another thing .. right , max payne isnt fps , my bad http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
take halo then , it works like a charm , easy to control

eskimo jackson

Apr 18 2002, 23:00

i still play games on my c64 http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

http://chicano.bei.t-online.de/emulation/c64/screen.gif

PHY_Hawkeye

Apr 18 2002, 23:23

As an experienced console gamer I'm going to make a few observations.

1 - It's a fact that in general, the public believe the X-Box controller is too big. Thats why Microsoft plan on releasing a smaller one.

2 - There are ruomers floating about that certain (not all) X-Boxes actually scratch the disk while playing. So in effect you could ware out a game. (I dunno if this is true).

3 - Granted the X-Box controller has allot of buttons, but it will never give you the full control that a keyboard provides. So I don't believe OFP would work well.

4 - And this is just me being anti-MS. The X-Box is a console that does not come from Japan, therefor sooner or later it wil die because all the best gaming hardware comes out of Japan. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Tex [USMC]

Apr 19 2002, 00:03

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PHY_Hawkeye @ April 19 2002,01:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1 - It's a fact that in general, the public believe the X-Box controller is too big. Thats why Microsoft plan on releasing a smaller one.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Who the hell thinks its too big?? Its the first game controller Ive ever used that doesnt cramp up my hands, and I dont even have particularly big hands... do I smell just another excuse to rip on Microsoft? Besides, the xbox controller kicks the shit out of the Gamecube one. I tried it the other day, and was damn near breaking the thing. But, it wasnt mine, so I didnt. And dont get me started on the Playstation 2 controller (no! dont press triangle! press square&#33http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

timmy

Apr 19 2002, 02:00

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PHY_Hawkeye @ April 18 2002,06:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">2 - There are ruomers floating about that certain (not all) X-Boxes actually scratch the disk while playing. So in effect you could ware out a game. (I dunno if this is true).[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
so.

ive heard of this too, ive acctually seen it. My friend had an xbox and somthing went wrong with the xbox, and the xbox scratched it. Within a week they had replaced all his games his xbox, and even gave him a complamentary controller. On the other hand, one of my other friends had a playstation 2, and it scratched one of his games, and it took him nearly a month to get it straightend out, they finaly gave him a new ps2, but he had to go to each individual games manufactuer and get a refund.

I have a full, no questions asked refund on my xbox. I could through it out a window and theyd replace it.

Aculaud

Apr 19 2002, 03:18

All i can say is that it wont be nearly as good on the x-box, no matter how pumped up the resolution gets. Consoles have limited controls, limited internet capabilities, and lets not forget, how the hell are they going to update the thing?

eskimo jackson

Apr 19 2002, 03:27

and again, the xbox comes with full broadband capabilities. so if you are on cable or dsl you can connect to the internet to play online, i reckon they will build in an autoupdate feature so you can get patches. i doubt though that there will be patches at all for the xbox as a console game is a finished , optimized product and you dont put it out until you are sure it is perfect. with a PC you can kind of release even a premature product just to meet the deadline. i honestly cant think of a game i recently bought which i didnt have to download a patch for after installation. imho that sucks big time , but hey , i m used to it. with a console you know that the hardware will be the same no matter what thus making it a lot easier to perfect a product.

deathguy

Apr 19 2002, 14:24

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (eskimo jackson @ April 18 2002,19:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (deathguy @ April 19 2002,08:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">2. Xbox is not cool because it's big. When I say that the controler is big, it's a faq. I have already try the joystick of the Xbox, and it's not playable. ***http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif That is why I have not buy it and that I hate it.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
its a faq ? do you mean : it is a fact ? *confused*

and why you 'have not buy' it is because your parents wouldnt give you the money , right ? ***http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
to be a little nitpick, it isnt a joystick but a thumbstick. you use them with your thumbs , not the whole hand

another thing .. right , max payne isnt fps , my bad http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
take halo then , it works like a charm , easy to control[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I mean its a fact, sorry, my bad english. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

I have not buy it because of it's big size. I have the money to buy it. But I have prefer to buy the GameCube that is much more better.

With all of the game controler I have play, I'm use to take the controler and to use the whole hand. It give me better grip on it and get me better control of my actions in the game.

I have always prefer Nintendo more than any other console because they know what they are doing and they are not newbie like Microsoft that is trying to impresse everyone.

eskimo jackson

Apr 19 2002, 22:36

i expect xbox to become the more adult console. nintendo to me always has been and always will be bubble gum colors and childrens games. btw , the xbox price has just dropped to $215 US. (in europe and australia) it is goona be interesting to see how the gamecube can compete with same prices for both systems

Denwad

Apr 20 2002, 23:36

Ok, I have always hated consoles, the only console I've like is the SNES, and Super Mario Brothers.

The last console I(10) wasted my greens on was the Dreamcast, fuck that, only good game on that console was Silent Scope and Crazy Taxi, I'd rather buy this with my money.

http://www.nvidia.com/docs/CP/3281/SUPP/GEF4Ti_3D.gif

Only thing that makes teh ghey X-Box is my shittey GeForce 2 MX 400.

Right now I have this
CPU:1.2 Ghz T-Bird (Waiting for Claw-Hammer)
RAM:512mb PC-133 (Seriously when I can i'm going for 1 gig of DDR)
Harddrive: 7500rpm 27.9 Gig
Sound Card: SBLive!
Graphics Card: GeForce 2 MX 400 (I HAVE TO UPGRADE THIS, SOON&#33http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

All this for only 1.5 grand

Tex [USMC]

Apr 21 2002, 22:30

I dont get it. Im not a very big guy, and my hands arent huge or anything, but the Xbox controller fits me perfectly, not to mention it is much more attractive than that wierd chunk of plastic the Gamecube tries to pass off as a controller

Wreck-It

Apr 21 2002, 22:45

All consoles suck! Until they give us a 15~20 keys gamepad with the mouse view thingy like the one on a MS sidewinder Dualstrike joystick with mouselook.http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/library/images/sidewinder/Devices/newDS/m_perspec.gif

FW200

Apr 25 2002, 06:54

Well....
I was planning on buying the X-Box anyway but now its just 299 Euro and ofp comes on the X-Box!!!!!
Now im really buying it http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

FW

Seventh

Apr 25 2002, 23:01

I think you'll be surprised when you see OFP on XBox. With the introduction of the addition features, campaigns and all upgrades, it will be well worth getting if you own Xbox. Also the price of Xbox has come down heaps in the past few weeks, in Australia today I heard it was selling for $400 AUD around $200 USD.

You have to remember not everyone has a high end PC or even a PC, at least Xbox lets more people access and experience this amazing game.

Hilandor

Apr 26 2002, 10:32

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Denwad @ April 20 2002,02:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Right now I have this
CPU:1.2 Ghz T-Bird (Waiting for Claw-Hammer)
RAM:512mb PC-133 (Seriously when I can i'm going for 1 gig of DDR)
Harddrive: 7500rpm 27.9 Gig
Sound Card: SBLive!
Graphics Card: GeForce 2 MX 400 (I HAVE TO UPGRADE THIS, SOON&#33http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

All this for only 1.5 grand[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
u paid 1.5 grand for that lol u have been ripped off (depending on what currency u have )

i got same cpu 1 gig ddr 40 gig HD sblive radeon 64meg ddr 24x plextor writer 17 inch monitor for half the price ur talking

RalphWiggum

Apr 26 2002, 13:58

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Seventh @ April 26 2002,01:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think you'll be surprised when you see OFP on XBox. With the introduction of the addition features, campaigns and all upgrades, it will be well worth getting if you own Xbox. Also the price of Xbox has come down heaps in the past few weeks, in Australia today I heard it was selling for $400 AUD around $200 USD.

You have to remember not everyone has a high end PC or even a PC, at least Xbox lets more people access and experience this amazing game.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
but i'm still sticking with PC version http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard301/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

better editor, easier to update. etc etc.

timmy

Apr 26 2002, 20:58

i got an xbox, i got a pc and ofp, and when the game comes out on xbox, ill at least try it. I mean i love BIS and ill try to support my most favorite game by at least trying it.

MrCrispPacket

May 12 2002, 13:23

Yes, I have an XBox and a PC. It is true that the XBox is never and will never be as good as the PC due to the extensive scipting and editing facilities offered by the PC version, but that doesn't mean that the XBox version won't be a good game. Here are some points.

1. BIS are giving you the origional game, Resistance and all the upgrades in one package.

2. My PC is hardly top of the range (PIII 700, 128mb RAM, Geforce 256) and as a result I stick to small ops missions - see my campaign website. I look forward to the ability to play through the campaigns again with better graphpics, performance and minimum slowdown.

3. Multiplayer, both on broadband, system link and splitscreen. Halo system link is the best multiplayer game I've played so far and OFP can only improve with its wealth of options. Even split screen is a good laugh with a few mates.

4. I don't mind not having a complex mission editor - I'll leave that to the PC. But one which allows you to make small mulitplayer scenarios would be just fine or even a scenario generator like Halo.

5. Contrary to popular belief, the Xbox contoller is the best on the market at the moment. I easily got the hang of it within 10 minutes, but on my mate's PS2, it took me two hours on Unreal Tournament to even get the basics of looking around. Anybody who says that the Xbox controller couldn't handle OFP has obviously never played Halo. And no, its not too big, it fits really comfortably into my hands.

6. The command system. Lets face it, the PC command system has too many unuseful options - I've only ever used fire-teams once or twice and I've never sent anybody running East - I didn't even know the command existed up until recently. I hope that BIS will cut down the command system so it has less options but is still efficient. Ways of contolling this could be similar to the N64's Perfect Dark bot control system or even an Unreal Tournament drop down menu.

In my opinion, OFP will be a good game on the XBox, even though reviewers will probably slate it because they won't think that its fun to play. However, I will definitely be buying it.