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richiespeed13
Feb 11 2010, 00:13
Hey Fellas,

Well, I am sure many of you have heard of this game, but for me it really stands out from the crowd. It is developed of course by THQ, who made the amazing S.T.A.L.K.E.R series, and it is based upon a best selling novel. In fact, apparently it is extremely true to the novel.

Anyhow, I have pre ordered this game, as from what I hear, it has no "shoot em up" feel to it. Apparently the battles are not fun, they are actually hard work and make you feel scared, and vulnerable. You have to think, and when you win a fight, you feel huge accomplishment.

That is something only the Bohemia Interactive series has ever given me. Of course, this isn't even close in genre to Arma 2, it is a linear shooter. But I think it is different.

Here is the official site:

http://www.metro2033game.com/en

And here is a great preview, the previewer actually seems to know what he's on about:

http://ow.ly/161kr

I hope I am not the only one who shares these feelings :)

Kind regards,

Richie.

Aeneas2020
Feb 11 2010, 02:30
It's supposed to be a lot more linear than stalker from what ive seen. It looks like its either going to be very good or very dissapointing. I may wait for your opinion on it speed b4 buying

richiespeed13
Feb 11 2010, 02:36
Yup, they say it is very linear, but it is supposed to be completely true to the book. They want you to "live" the book, as if it were true. Rather than creating your own path, you come along for an epic and scary ride.

Half Life 2 did that extremely well, and I think this game will be a singleplayer epic. They don't have any multiplayer because they are only focusing on singleplayer, I like the sound of that too :)

I hope its as good as I think it will be, all the previews say it's good, and they seem pretty confident :)

(And the develoeprs are quite genuine too, especially compared to Codebastards)

Abs
Feb 11 2010, 03:20
I typically buy games for the story, and this is something that I will probably end up buying. Of course, it all depends on what other information will be released closer to the launch date.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. :)

Abs

gulag
Feb 11 2010, 07:36
some links:

http://xbox360.gamezone.com/gzreviews/p30556.htm
http://www.destructoid.com/preview-metro-2033-162183.phtml
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/metro-2033-extended-hands-on
http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/metro_2033/preview-2190.html
http://www.gamingnexus.com/Article/Metro-2033/Item2529.aspx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_IZ6r3BgF0
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/combat-and-metro-2033/61790
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/life-after-metro-2033/61791

I do not think that is RPG, is more FPS, we will see.

richiespeed13
Feb 11 2010, 10:59
Yeah, they have also said the game is not RPG at all, although it has a few elements to add to the story. They said everything is done to make you feel like your really there, so there is always fear, you don't WANT to leave the station and enter the scary world, you have limited ammo, you feel clostrophobic etc.

Sound blooming good :D

Bulldogs
Feb 11 2010, 11:03
I bought Stalker, and Clear Sky (hoping it'd be up 1 on stalker), I thought Stalker was a bit ok, couldn't stand Clear Sky (literally, I pushed myself through it for 4 hours then just couldn't do it anymore)

But I actually like the look of Metro, and am looking forward to it.

Heatseeker
Feb 11 2010, 11:05
I heard about this title a while ago, its being made by some of the original stalker developers (who parted), it looks nice and interesting i think.

Shadow NX
Feb 11 2010, 11:05
I can only suggest everyone to read the book... very long but with a atmosphere that is amazing.

There even was parts that made me afraid just by explaining how Artjom walks trough a pitch black tunnel thinking there is someone watching him.

A immersion effect i never had with another book.

If the game is half as good it already is a must buy.

richiespeed13
Feb 11 2010, 11:07
I can't read it until I have played the game, don't want to spoil it lol!

Enad
Feb 23 2010, 22:03
Oh yes. I've been following this game. I really cannot wait!
It looks amazing! :D
Love the story and it has been called "The scariest game we've ever played" by two reviewers
PERFECT. :)

Myshaak
Feb 23 2010, 22:48
Well, I am sure many of you have heard of this game, but for me it really stands out from the crowd. It is developed of course by THQ, who made the amazing S.T.A.L.K.E.R series, and it is based upon a best selling novel. In fact, apparently it is extremely true to the novel.


Hey richie, you'd better check your facts about who the developer and publisher is... or some S.T.A.L.K.E.R fan may get his revenge by spreading the word how OFP:CWC was developed by Codemasters :p

Cross
Feb 24 2010, 05:44
I can't read it until I have played the game, don't want to spoil it lol!

lol you don't spoil a game or movie/game but a good read...
If the book is that good, what your brain can do will be way better than any atmosphere that game/movie can achieve.
:D

richiespeed13
Feb 24 2010, 16:31
Hey richie, you'd better check your facts about who the developer and publisher is... or some S.T.A.L.K.E.R fan may get his revenge by spreading the word how OFP:CWC was developed by Codemasters :p

Ahh, my bad! I do know however that some of the same STALKER team are on the project, however that is all I know. Well, I think so.

Ok I have no idea :D

And I agree with the above, the mind creates much better things than any book or game!

That's why I never need to look at pictures of Megan Fo...

I mean, nothing!

Zipper5
Feb 24 2010, 16:39
Yes, if I recall, some of the team that worked on SOC are working on this. I believe it's because they wanted to show their own vision, and they weren't able to due to the confines of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series, so they went off on their own and made this.

Has anyone ever found out what S.T.A.L.K.E.R. stands for, if anything?

richiespeed13
Feb 24 2010, 17:49
Yes, if I recall, some of the team that worked on SOC are working on this. I believe it's because they wanted to show their own vision, and they weren't able to due to the confines of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series, so they went off on their own and made this.

Has anyone ever found out what S.T.A.L.K.E.R. stands for, if anything?

Everyone knows what S.T.A.L.K.E.R stands for!

:p

Scavengers
Trespassers
Adventurers
Loners
Killers
Explorers
Robbers

CW001
Feb 24 2010, 20:07
I am so looking forward to this. What seems really interesting to me is that military-grade bullets are used as currency, and you use crappier homemade ones for shooting. But when you run out of homemade ones, you need to fire your only method of buying stuff! It just sounds cool as hell, and an interesting gameplay mechanic.

Deadfast
Feb 24 2010, 20:59
I am so looking forward to this. What seems really interesting to me is that military-grade bullets are used as currency, and you use crappier homemade ones for shooting. But when you run out of homemade ones, you need to fire your only method of buying stuff! It just sounds cool as hell, and an interesting gameplay mechanic.

Haha, really?
Now here's an ingenious idea :D

richiespeed13
Feb 25 2010, 07:48
Indeed, an awesome mechanic! My personal prediction of this game:

Like a great movie. You go through it once, love every second! But after that you have no real urge to play. I can't see it having the scope and replayablitiy of stalker, but I do think it will be one of the best singleplayer experiences on the market.

gulag
Feb 27 2010, 05:36
Metro 2033 system requirements revealed:
:eek::eek::eek::eek:
Minimal system requirements: Metro 2033
- Dual-Core CPU (Core 2 Duo or better)
- DirectX 9, Shader Model 3 graphics card (Geforce 8800, Geforce GT220)
- 1 GiB RAM

Recommended system requirements: Metro 2033
- Quad-Core or 3.0+ GHz Dual-Core CPU
- DirectX 10 graphics card (Geforce GTX 260)
- 2 GiB RAM

Optimal system requirements: Metro 2033
- Core i7 CPU
- Nvidia DirectX 11 graphics card (Geforce GTX 480 and Geforce GTX 470)
- As much RAM as possible (8 GiB+)
- Fast HDD or SSD

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,705579/Metro-2033-system-requirements-revealed-x-Fermi-optimal-GPU/News/

Deadfast
Feb 27 2010, 09:39
Ah, ok.


WHAT THE F?!?
That 8+ Gigs of RAM is just silly.

Zipper5
Feb 27 2010, 09:53
It's obviously a joke. Look at the graphics cards. I guess he's trying to say that it's currently impossible to run it decently when maxed out on current hardware.

Deadfast
Feb 27 2010, 10:00
Doesn't seem like much of a joke to me.
What do you mean with the graphics cards? That they are not even released so it would make more sense to use the ATI's HD 5000 series instead?
Sure, it would, but given the fact the game has PhysX I'm fairly sure the developers don't swing the red way ;)

NeMeSiS
Feb 27 2010, 10:02
Sure, it would, but given the fact the game has PhysX I'm fairly sure the developers don't swing the red way ;)

They have a deal with nVidia which explains the lack of Ati cards in the specs.

Zipper5
Feb 27 2010, 10:59
In the optimal spec it lists a GTX 480 or 470. Those don't exist. That's why I think it's a joke. As far as I know, that's not even going to be the name of the next line of nVidia cards. I believe it's GF100 at the moment, or have I missed something?

Deadfast
Feb 27 2010, 11:22
In the optimal spec it lists a GTX 480 or 470. Those don't exist. That's why I think it's a joke. As far as I know, that's not even going to be the name of the next line of nVidia cards. I believe it's GF100 at the moment, or have I missed something?

The 400 series, codenamed Fermi, is the Nvidia's response to DX11.

The release keeps getting pushed back though.

CW001
Feb 27 2010, 12:50
Metro 2033 system requirements revealed:
:eek::eek::eek::eek:
Minimal system requirements: Metro 2033
- Dual-Core CPU (Core 2 Duo or better)
- DirectX 9, Shader Model 3 graphics card (Geforce 8800, Geforce GT220)
- 1 GiB RAM

Recommended system requirements: Metro 2033
- Quad-Core or 3.0+ GHz Dual-Core CPU
- DirectX 10 graphics card (Geforce GTX 260)
- 2 GiB RAM

Optimal system requirements: Metro 2033
- Core i7 CPU
- Nvidia DirectX 11 graphics card (Geforce GTX 480 and Geforce GTX 470)
- As much RAM as possible (8 GiB+)
- Fast HDD or SSD

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,705579/Metro-2033-system-requirements-revealed-x-Fermi-optimal-GPU/News/

Shazbot! The optimal requirements are freaking insane!

Mr Sarkey
Feb 27 2010, 13:29
New trailer, looks sweet.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/26/metro-2033-kill-or-be-killed-trailer/

richiespeed13
Feb 27 2010, 13:35
Niiiice!

Madus_Maximus
Feb 27 2010, 15:32
Looking at those requirements it looks like they've coded it for 64bit. Finally! Now games will start to actually use all that power in those rediculously overpowered (for current games) gaming rigs.

That latest trailer was great until the end with that voice over by the GameStop guy. Really ruined the whole thing.

It's also interesting how they can get it to run nicely on 360 then give us those requirements for the PC version lol. Does that mean they've not bothered to optimise it for Windows or the 360 version is going to be hella ugly compared?

Zipper5
Feb 27 2010, 16:20
GameStop tends to ruin all trailers they're involved with. :p

Epic trailer apart from that, though. Can't wait for this.

BangTail
Feb 27 2010, 19:45
GameStop tends to ruin all trailers they're involved with. :p

Epic trailer apart from that, though. Can't wait for this.

No pre release demo and "we're too busy" as a justification.

Still looks good though, fingers crossed :)

CW001
Feb 28 2010, 16:42
That trailer is SWEEEEEEET.
But, wouldn't the autoshotty be completely useless as it would burn through all of your ammo in a matter of moments?

gulag
Feb 28 2010, 18:53
No demo for this game:

http://www.bluesnews.com/s/106802/metro-2033-in-march-no-prerelease-demo

CW001
Feb 28 2010, 19:16
No demo for this game:

http://www.bluesnews.com/s/106802/metro-2033-in-march-no-prerelease-demo

No prerelease demo. I'm holding out that there will be a post-release one, however unlikely.

Madus_Maximus
Feb 28 2010, 23:36
If it's as atmospheric as S.T.A.L.K.E.R. then it'll be worth a buy. Those guys know how to make games that make you jump lol. They made brilliant use of the shaders in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and seeing as this is being made by some of the folks who made that and the engine, this should be interesting if nothing else. At least there's no pretense about what it is. It's a linear story driven game with little freedom to go and do what you want. They've said that from the start so we know what to expect.

Placebo
Mar 1 2010, 09:05
If it's as atmospheric as S.T.A.L.K.E.R. then it'll be worth a buy.

Stalker is awesome because it's free form, you can do what you want, go where you want, and it has a long life, this according to a preview I read is 10 hours long and linear :(

Sudayev
Mar 1 2010, 09:38
I'll be getting "Metro 2033" book by Dmitry Glukhovsky. People say the book is really good with many many copies sold in Russia, this will make good introduction to forthcoming game!

gulag
Mar 3 2010, 16:40
Live chat with Dmitry Glukhovsky Metro 2033 author, If you have any questions...

US Pacific Coast: 13.00 - 15.00
US East Coast: 16:00 - 18.00
UK / GMT: 21.00 - 23.00
Central Europe: 22.00 - 24.00
Russia: 24.00 - 02.00

http://twitter.com/Metro2033

USSRsniper
Mar 15 2010, 02:23
Why is everyone is worried about optimal system requirements, those requirements are for DX11 mode, for those with DX10 cars it will run fine in DX10 mode, if the game is properly optimized.

Madus_Maximus
Mar 15 2010, 20:58
Stalker is awesome because it's free form, you can do what you want, go where you want, and it has a long life, this according to a preview I read is 10 hours long and linear :(

10 hours is a life time these days in game terms, especially for a linear story with no sort of free-roam. Things have gone backwards in every respect but visuals for the vast majority of games over the last 10 years. This sounds like it may be a welcome change, it'll rely entirely on it's single player aspect as it doesn't have MP to rest on. How many games can you think of that have sub-par SP, yet it's only given a life line because of the also sub-par MP, people just like to play together! It's like an easy get out clause for devs these days. Look at BioShock 2, if you played the first you'll understand why MP isn't needed (or a sequel for that matter).

That guy
Mar 15 2010, 21:27
Stalker is awesome because it's free form, you can do what you want, go where you want, and it has a long life, this according to a preview I read is 10 hours long and linear :(

that is not NECESSARILY a bad thing if the single player portion is done well.

it can still be an amazing experience, if only enjoyed once a year. For example the game cryostasis was just such a game, in my opinion an amazing piece of work. If this game can accomplish that level of immersion and setting/mood, it will be amazing.
I am hoping that metro is closer to cryostasis than stalker really, for the reason placebo pointed out, because stalker is all about free roam.

Bulldogs
Mar 17 2010, 13:53
I had a play around on Metro 2033. It's really pretty good. Like Stalker with better graphics and a lot of post processing. The PP blur effect can get annoying when trying to spot enemies past 10m away, and it's a real resource hog of a game (guess that's why it's linear), but it's a good game.

I won't be buying it though. In Australia it's around $100 on Steam (US$90) which is way too much for a linear singleplayer only game.

DenisRUS
Mar 17 2010, 17:33
$90 ?????!!!!!!!!for this???

Deadfast
Mar 17 2010, 17:35
$90 ?????!!!!!!!!for this???

I guess that's the down-under for you...

Zipper5
Mar 17 2010, 17:45
I'm getting told by some people that Metro 2033 has seriously under-delivered. Don't know if it's true as I haven't played it myself, but it's a shame if it has. :(

richiespeed13
Mar 17 2010, 18:17
All I am hearing is how epic it is.

And the reviews reflect that. :)

Can't wait!

Bulldogs
Mar 17 2010, 20:39
Honestly, if you loved the Stalker series then you'll almost be in heaven with this. It feels exactly like Stalker but has many moments where you just stop in awe of the visuals. Although, the characters look a little cartoony (like Stalkers characters) and the graphics are really only enhanced by the over the top post processing effects but it just seems great. A lot of it is very well done too, but it is even more linear than they all make out. We're talking Doom 3 style tight corridors level of linear.

It has some other issues that would turn off non-stalker fans. The English voice acting is pretty sub-par, but about the same as you got with Stalker, and the animations are over the top. In many circumstances the animations seem quite amazing, then when you watch two characters having a conversation while seated it's like they're all suffering from heavy ADHD, constantly squirming and occasional flailing of limbs. Little off putting but otherwise pretty top notch.

I didn't get the chance to get to play too much of it but what I did I thought was very well done. A lot of the time it felt a little generic until you look at all the details, literally, things like item placement used to the extreme to give an even heavier claustrophobic feel. Other things like the random conversations and random characters walking around the tunnels. Kids that are playing around and will run up to you to tell you random things and such.

The lively AI surrounding have a double whammy effect too. You'll constantly hear conversations going on around you in the main underground hubs which can get really annoying as you're basically being flooded with chatter from every side and it gets a little overwhelming, but at the same time it gives a real feel of the over compressed living spaces they're dealing with. Kind of like going into a multi-family house and trying to get some peace and quiet.

Overall I'd rate it as a very good game, definitely not worth $100 as it's got no multiplayer or retail value, but still a very good game.

andersson
Mar 17 2010, 21:11
Sound good, will try it after I read the book. To bad about the corridor linearity, guess its needed for the story?

BangTail
Mar 17 2010, 21:21
It's pretty good and one of the most atmospheric and immersive games I've played in a while.

Unfortunately, it's way too short for my taste.

As someone on another forum said, 'Are we going to get an FPS that lasts for more than 8 hours anytime soon'.

Bulldogs
Mar 17 2010, 22:18
Heh.. Steam just reduced the price of it by $40. Feel sorry for the ones who pre-ordered it.

They also reduced the price of BC2 by $20, which is a pity since my copy is currently being shipped.

AndresCL
Mar 17 2010, 22:52
There is no way i can run this game, i should buy the book instead :P.

USSRsniper
Mar 18 2010, 01:50
Cool game, but it just doesn't feel like STALKER.

What I love about Metro 2033 is the ability to kill enemies silently which was always missing from STALKER, you can sneak around people and throw knives at them, then they run around thinking its the mutants attacking them.

tpw
Mar 20 2010, 02:39
$90 ?????!!!!!!!!for this???

Well I went to my local EB games (australia) this morning and they wanted $110 for it!!! This is $10 more expensive than any game I've seen at retail, and when I raised it with the sales guy he agreed it was driving off customers. It's probably a pretty good game but I won't be finding out until it's at least $30 cheaper. Most annoying was that the latest STALKER was on the shelf next to it for $70. Time to vote with the wallet when they're asking this sort of cash for a 10 hour single player only game.

DenisRUS
Mar 20 2010, 16:45
tpw 110$? in such cases its much better to find smn with shitload of cash and play at his home or rent his copy,while it is only SP.

ABSOLUTE OFFTOPIC
What weather is right now in Australia??) Just curious, because in my country we have some kind of "winter comes back" in 20 of March right now.

Bulldogs
Mar 20 2010, 21:13
Australian weather can never make up it's mind. Right now it's sunny and hot, has been for the past 2 days, before that it was rainy and cold for 2 days.

That guy
Mar 20 2010, 21:39
so from any one who has played the game, how is it so far?

Enad
Mar 20 2010, 23:30
Amazing game!! Jesus Christ the graphics are better than Crysis.
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Bulldogs
Mar 21 2010, 01:17
It's quite an excellent game. The style of fame q
wouldn't work open world (being that most of the time you're in an underground rail system) so the linearity doesn't hurt too much.

Graphics are stunning. The characters look a little cartoony but they have enough strength. Of character and animation to come good. performance is a bit of an issue for older hardware and it's a pity that you can't alter each individual settin yourself, but it's adjustable enough to allow you to play without a super rig.

As I mentioned before, my only major gripe is the price. Having the new stalker come out at $20 and have this come out at $90 even though this is a lot more linear with no multiplayer or replay value (fortunately it's a lot less buggy than stalker) seemed odd, but the price fortunately dropped to $50 straight after release (I feel sorry for those who preordered)

RobertHammer
Mar 21 2010, 10:11
Done the game - Not bad game , graphics are cool ,but cpu/gpu killer :D
It something missing , don't know what , only got that feel :p

richiespeed13
Mar 21 2010, 22:03
I can confirm, this is the FIRST "fps" game, (crysis, BC2, etc) that I cannot run maxed out. The only game I can not run maxed out currently is Arma 2, and Metro is right up there with it.

I can run maxed at about 20fps, but that is too little for me!

Looks better than crysis. Gameplay is some of the best I have ever experienced.

The game has many small issues, some very annoying some not even noticeable, I hope a sequel will come out with all these issues perfected.

My score, 9/10.

Possible score, if they fixed some issues, 11/10.

PogMoThoin
Mar 21 2010, 22:13
I'm really enjoying this too, despite its little flaws it is an amazing game. Best FPS I've played since HL2, honestly

Bulldogs
Mar 21 2010, 22:17
One annoying thing I found was that I was trying to stealth through an area and was spotted and fired upon, so I had to dash through while a large group was firing on me from above. I ran forward and had just enough time to see a group of 5 guys in front of me line up their shots while at the same time in the corner I saw the Auto-save icon pop up.

Not wanting to backtrack I had to reload about 15 times til I could get the perfect timing to dodge bullets, while taking out several of the guys, and taking out all the lights, then navigating pitch black darkness (with no NV goggles at the time) to cover then spending the next hour slowly sneaking out of there (with only 2 throwing knives as my stealth weapons)

That would also be one of my other gripes. Maybe it's the difficulty level but whenever I sneak up on someone and throw a throwing knife into their head they seem to swat it like it's a mosquito then turn and fire. I put 2 into one guys head before I decided to rush him and finish him with the standard knife.

Bulldogs
Mar 22 2010, 10:38
Hey look at that. Steam price just went up to $90 again. Guess someone read some good reviews.

BTW, try playing the game with just the knife and go hellman... it's a lot of fun (and in some sections it's easier than trying to shoot everyone)

richiespeed13
Mar 22 2010, 11:05
I am still trying to figure out what those straw like bullets are? They are like arrows that seem to poison the enemy. I just have no idea what weapon uses them, and where to buy it?

Bulldogs
Mar 22 2010, 12:49
Not sure. There are the arrows that fire from a neumonic gun (that I found on a crate near the frontlines, six barreled weird thing) that are really effective if you get a head shot but you go through ammo fast on them (fortunately you can recover your arrows from the walls and such)

Other than that I'm not sure.

5133p39
Mar 22 2010, 18:05
I was disapointed by this game.
I don't know the book, but according to what i heard about it, i was expecting something with very dense atmosphere - which could be done, if it weren't for those stupid checkpoints and heavily scripted AI companions.
Burbon was allways rushing somewhere 0.5km in front of me, while i was scavenging some goods from dead bodies, and he was still talking to me like if i was there with him (is that supposed to be immersive?).
The enemies are dumb as hell, but stealth aproach is often very hard, because you kill first mutant almost instantly with two headshots from suppressed weapon, but from that moment all other mutants knows EXACLTY where you are hiding).
The gas mask was super annoying (one filter will last for 5 minutes or so - making stealth exploring impossible, and forcing you to rush).
And the checkpoints, oh my god! WTF?! I thought it is 21th century already, but aparently some developers are still living in the medieval 8bit consoles ages.
I was running on last filter, when some stupid checkpoint replaced my previous "save", and it took me about 15x of loading and trying to find another filter before i suffocate.
And even with the checkpoint, i would expect that when i am exiting the game, it should offer me to save the current state, but no, you have only the last checkpoint.
So when you want to stop playing, and you don't want to repeat the last 10 minutes of crawling and fighting next time you start the game, you have to continue until you reach another checkpoint! IT IS ANNOYING!
Also, it reminded me a lot of Doom 3, where you have to cross some trigger to start some event (then some mutants will appear, or whatever) - i have nothing against such things, but somehow it didn't felt right.
Then there are a lot of people in the settlements, but you cannot interact with them, you can only buy some weapons and ammo from the "shopkeepers", but apart from that there is almost no interaction with the NPC around you - it feels like walking through a shop filled with static figurines to show off some clothing (and not only that the clothing is almost the same, but so are the faces of the figurines).

And the graphics?
...well, hard to say, for some reason i cannot run the game in DX11, although i can play other games like Crysis Warhead, or Stalker:CS with DX11 completely maxed out without any problems.
Maybe it is because i played it with DX10, but the graphics looks just "normal" - it's ok, but it's nothing special, just how a "standard" not-too-old-game should look like, but nothing worth the advertising i seen on the web.
In my oppinion, the Stalker CS and maybe even the Crysis looks much better (but then again, maybe that is the difference between DX10 and 11).

My verdict: as a budget game it would be worth $10, but hardly no more.
It's a no buy for me.

Heatseeker
Mar 22 2010, 18:19
Betwean this and the latest stalker i'd go with stalker (Call of Pripyat).
I've heard someone say this is "Stalker if IW made it but forgot to add MP" :D .

Bush
Mar 22 2010, 19:26
And the graphics?
...well, hard to say, for some reason i cannot run the game in DX11, although i can play other games like Crysis Warhead, or Stalker:CS with DX11 completely maxed out without any problems.
Maybe it is because i played it with DX10, but the graphics looks just "normal" - it's ok, but it's nothing special, just how a "standard" not-too-old-game should look like, but nothing worth the advertising i seen on the web.
In my oppinion, the Stalker CS and maybe even the Crysis looks much better (but then again, maybe that is the difference between DX10 and 11).
STALKER: Clear Sky and Crysis doesn’t support DX11.

5133p39
Mar 22 2010, 19:38
STALKER: Clear Sky and Crysis doesn’t support DX11.
You are right, my mistake.

Bulldogs
Mar 22 2010, 19:44
I was about to mention that. Stalker cs and warhead don't support dx 11, only dx 10. It sounds like you don't have a dx 11 card. The only ones on the market right now are the ati 5xxx.

I like the checkpoint system kindof. I hate quick save and save where you want in games, and I guess that's what I like so much about metro. Sneaking along freaking put at every sound 'cause you don't know when it's going to save it. But as I said before, it has the massive downside of being under fire and running to find cover only to see the autosave a couple of seconds before you die.

Graphics and lighting wise I haven't seen anything close to it, but as such it can run aslow in some areas, and the characters can feel like a weak point as they're a little too cartoony.

Binkowski
Mar 23 2010, 00:13
Gonna buy this for 360 sometime this week.

twisted
Mar 27 2010, 11:52
I can only suggest everyone to read the book... very long but with a atmosphere that is amazing.

There even was parts that made me afraid just by explaining how Artjom walks trough a pitch black tunnel thinking there is someone watching him.

A immersion effect i never had with another book.

If the game is half as good it already is a must buy.

scuse, but whats the books name mate?

PogMoThoin
Mar 27 2010, 11:54
scuse, but whats the books name mate?

The same as the game
http://www.amazon.co.uk/METRO-2033-Dmitry-Glukhovsky/dp/0575086246/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269169994&sr=8-4

DenisRUS
Mar 27 2010, 13:22
note that you DONT need to BUY this book -it is possible to find english version on russian internet libraries.

BTW the graphic of the game is reallly goooooood ,BUT 50 bucks is limit for me for SP GAME,so....)))

Madus_Maximus
Apr 1 2010, 01:08
I was going to get this on ye olde Steam but it mysteriously vanished when I got around to looking. I'm assuming it has something to do with the metro bombings in Moscow, considering it's set in those very tunnels... or is it another one of those awesome licencing things where we don't get it in the UK much like stuff on iTunes? It's pretty hard to find PC games at retail these days too and getting there is a pain too as they're shut when I finish work. Damn thee powers that be at Steam! DAMN THEE!

Bulldogs
Apr 1 2010, 05:59
It's still available in the Australian Steam but it's gone back up to US$80.

NeMeSiS
Apr 1 2010, 15:32
note that you DONT need to BUY this book -it is possible to find english version on russian internet libraries.

Really? Do you have a link?

Nielsneo
Apr 2 2010, 03:02
My 2 cents.

It's a good game but unfortunatley it's mired with problems and annoyences because it's a console port.
1. Very clunky controls, lot of overshooting because it's expecting a slower controller.
2. Very annoying rapid key tapping moments that does not belong in a PC game.
3. Sickening motion blur and overdone post processing effects wich you can't turn off.
4. Can run this game maxed out but have to set it at a lower setting because of the motion blur and PP.( When set to high instead of very high the motion blur dissapates to a minimum and the PP is a little toned down).It's ridiculous that i can't play this game maxed out because of some idiotic console features that can't be turned off.
5. Save checkpoints. Again an idiotic console feature that has no place in a PC game.
6. A lot of times you're in control of Artyom one moment and not in control the next wich can be little annoying at times. I guess it's to give you a break from all that rapid tapping:j:

The immersion is good but can be broken by those annoying console limitations.Another "nice..." game that is ruined because of being a console port.:(
In that aspect Stalker is a much better game. Hmm...was'nt Stalker a PC only game?;)

Bulldogs
Apr 3 2010, 00:51
Those were actually my plus sides to the game (well, except for the button tapping.. seriously, why the "tap E to save yourself" junk?)

The difficult control coupled with the Checkpoint system made the game extremely intense to the point where I was jumping at every shadow.

I've never understood the huge debate against checkpoint systems. Every PC game I've played with a quick save system was boring. The intense periods in the games you'd just quick save every 5 seconds, and even if you didn't, the feature was still there as a safety blanket. It's times of, "Dammit, I don't know when it last saved and I don't know when it's going to save again", that I love in PC games.

richiespeed13
Apr 3 2010, 03:13
I was going to get this on ye olde Steam but it mysteriously vanished when I got around to looking. I'm assuming it has something to do with the metro bombings in Moscow, considering it's set in those very tunnels... or is it another one of those awesome licencing things where we don't get it in the UK much like stuff on iTunes? It's pretty hard to find PC games at retail these days too and getting there is a pain too as they're shut when I finish work. Damn thee powers that be at Steam! DAMN THEE!

Nope, it disappeared on steam for UK users about 2 weeks ago, I have no idea why, I only got it via steam because I pre-ordered it 3 months before release.

Pauld
Apr 3 2010, 08:40
I got my copy from GAME there offering the limited edition version with a free full game (red fraction guerrilla) plus 5 director art designs postcards.

Oh btw i completed it in 8 hours and i loved every minute of it

PogMoThoin
Apr 3 2010, 11:49
My 2 cents.

It's a good game but unfortunatley it's mired with problems and annoyences because it's a console port.
1. Very clunky controls, lot of overshooting because it's expecting a slower controller.
2. Very annoying rapid key tapping moments that does not belong in a PC game.
3. Sickening motion blur and overdone post processing effects wich you can't turn off.
4. Can run this game maxed out but have to set it at a lower setting because of the motion blur and PP.( When set to high instead of very high the motion blur dissapates to a minimum and the PP is a little toned down).It's ridiculous that i can't play this game maxed out because of some idiotic console features that can't be turned off.
5. Save checkpoints. Again an idiotic console feature that has no place in a PC game.
6. A lot of times you're in control of Artyom one moment and not in control the next wich can be little annoying at times. I guess it's to give you a break from all that rapid tapping:j:

The immersion is good but can be broken by those annoying console limitations.Another "nice..." game that is ruined because of being a console port.:(
In that aspect Stalker is a much better game. Hmm...was'nt Stalker a PC only game?;)

Its actually ported from the Pc to the Xbox360 so therefore isn't a console port.

Actually this is the best visual game We've seen since Crysis (I don't see any other developers pushing boundaries graphically) and You slam it as a console port, Shame on You :eek:. I had no problems with the controls (other than the usual gripe of not having Q and E lean), in fact the parts of the game where You faced human enemies played very well. As for the saving checkpoints, what do You want, quicksave, to me as a tactical gamer thats just cheating and shouldn't be in any game. (BTW, I'm actually playing Call of Pripyat here also, its not all that great, certainly not as good as the first SOC)

Nielsneo
Apr 3 2010, 12:30
Its actually ported from the Pc to the Xbox360 so therefore isn't a console port.

I don't know what THQ has been feeding you but it is a 100% console port.
These problems would'nt be there if it was a PC first game.
The "press enter to start" is a dead giveaway. The lack of changable graphics settings is another.
As for the save checkpoints, i don't like it when the game desides when to save and when not to. I understand that quicksaves is'nt an ideal way either but it at least gives you a measure of control and has nothing to do with tactical gaming.
Also i agree that it has stunning graphics and great atmosphere but i don't get to enjoy it to the fullest because of the sickening motion blur and over the top post processing. I would love to play this game maxed out but untill those features can be turned off i have to settle for a lower setting. Now that can't be a good thing now can it?:mad:

p.s. Oh yeah, the fact that u can't lean is also a sign it is a console port.

Richey79
Apr 3 2010, 12:56
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,706182/Exclusive-tech-interview-on-Metro-2033/News/

Very interesting interview with Oles Shishkovstov (who also created XRay engine for SOC) talking about 4A game engine, even if it does sound like a sponsored advert for the game.

PCGH: By now multi-core CPUs have become very popular and the number of players with such machines is rapidly increasing. Did you integrate multi-core support into the engine from the beginning?

Oles Shishkovstov: Yes, the engine was architected to be multi-threaded from the start. That's the only sensible route to go. You just cannot add multi-threading later in the development cycle or it will be horribly sub-optimal.

If only BIS shared these sentiments... .

PogMoThoin
Apr 3 2010, 13:23
I don't know what THQ has been feeding you but it is a 100% console port.
These problems would'nt be there if it was a PC first game.
The "press enter to start" is a dead giveaway. The lack of changable graphics settings is another.
As for the save checkpoints, i don't like it when the game desides when to save and when not to. I understand that quicksaves is'nt an ideal way either but it at least gives you a measure of control and has nothing to do with tactical gaming.
Also i agree that it has stunning graphics and great atmosphere but i don't get to enjoy it to the fullest because of the sickening motion blur and over the top post processing. I would love to play this game maxed out but untill those features can be turned off i have to settle for a lower setting. Now that can't be a good thing now can it?:mad:

p.s. Oh yeah, the fact that u can't lean is also a sign it is a console port.

Those are the signs of a multi platform game, not console port.

The game uses all of my 4 cores, show me a console port that can do that? I can also run the advanced PhysX on the cpu cores as its multithreaded (cos I've not got nvidia gpu), again show me a console port that does that. This engine was built with multi-core in mind, the game was made to suit all platforms.

Madus_Maximus
Apr 3 2010, 14:05
Those are the signs of a multi platform game, not console port.

The game uses all of my 4 cores, show me a console port that can do that? I can also run the advanced PhysX on the cpu cores as its multithreaded (cos I've not got nvidia gpu), again show me a console port that does that. This engine was built with multi-core in mind, the game was made to suit all platforms.

The 360 and PS3 are multi-core machines too, so they'll also make use of multi-threaded code on those platforms. If nothing else it's just a WELL ported game if that's truely the case. The original engine was written for PC then ported to console, so maybe that's why it still has all these features you don't normally see in console to PC ports (although I'm thinking more along the lines of they actually care. Most developers see the PC as a secondary market that doesn't matter to them all that much so they don't put in the effort they should).

PogMoThoin
Apr 3 2010, 14:19
The 360 and PS3 are multi-core machines too, so they'll also make use of multi-threaded code on those platforms. If nothing else it's just a WELL ported game if that's truely the case. The original engine was written for PC then ported to console, so maybe that's why it still has all these features you don't normally see in console to PC ports (although I'm thinking more along the lines of they actually care. Most developers see the PC as a secondary market that doesn't matter to them all that much so they don't put in the effort they should).

The console ports we've seen up to now haven't really been multi-threaded though have they, they thrashed the shit out of one single core, used loads of ram and barely put the gpu under any pressure at all. This game engine is different, it scales well on pc, brings my pc to its knees actually, uses all 4 cores and uses every bit of power my 4870x2 has. Nice to see a game making full use of my expensive hardware for a change, I feel like I'm getting value for all the money I've spent, long time since I could say that.

The game is good, but it isn't perfect. I had gripes with it and disliked the ending, I was expecting a big boss, but no, the ending sucked.

Madus_Maximus
Apr 3 2010, 16:58
The console ports we've seen up to now haven't really been multi-threaded though have they, they thrashed the shit out of one single core, used loads of ram and barely put the gpu under any pressure at all. This game engine is different, it scales well on pc, brings my pc to its knees actually, uses all 4 cores and uses every bit of power my 4870x2 has. Nice to see a game making full use of my expensive hardware for a change, I feel like I'm getting value for all the money I've spent, long time since I could say that.

That's my point. Most other games they don't bother doing a proper job for the PC version, they just rush it so it "works", but quite often it doesn't work as well as it should and is buggy. Look at GTA4 and Mass Effect 1, massively buggy ports because they didn't seem to care!

It's nice to see a dev team put some effort into what they release. I'll have to pick this up from retail seeing as the digital version went walk-abouts for UK folk!

Aeneas2020
Apr 3 2010, 20:20
That's my point. Most other games they don't bother doing a proper job for the PC version, they just rush it so it "works", but quite often it doesn't work as well as it should and is buggy. Look at GTA4 and Mass Effect 1, massively buggy ports because they didn't seem to care!

It's nice to see a dev team put some effort into what they release. I'll have to pick this up from retail seeing as the digital version went walk-abouts for UK folk!

While i agree with your statement mass effect 1 came out like 6 months to a year after the console version on the PC. They fixed a great many of the bugs and errors, added new features and more. Bioware are usually pretty good at looking after PC gamers. Dragon Age on the PC and consoles was almost two completely different games.

Sudayev
Apr 3 2010, 22:39
So I managed to get this game. First impressions are very warm and positive. I really enjoy the atmosphere and immersive claustrophobic climate of the Moscow's tunnels. Graphic is on really high level and just like the overall performance. I have to play this game on headpohones because of the loudness of the gpu, gives a lot of sweat to it ;)
I noticed an eased controls so far.
I'm going back to game for now, th eintroduction was very good and I cant wait what will happen soon.

Madus_Maximus
Apr 3 2010, 23:08
While i agree with your statement mass effect 1 came out like 6 months to a year after the console version on the PC. They fixed a great many of the bugs and errors, added new features and more. Bioware are usually pretty good at looking after PC gamers. Dragon Age on the PC and consoles was almost two completely different games.

Mass Effect 1 is still full of game killer bugs sadly. Not just ones that crash the game, but lock up your entire system, forcing you to physically power down your machine and reboot it. They promised to have a patch out to fix it over a year ago, still no dice. They just seem to have gone for the sequel instead. It may be the case of publishers more so than the developers, but they still released a broken game.

PC games sadly get a lower priority on multi-platform releases these days as it's a niche market with a lower ROI. Looking at some of the big publishers latest moves in the PC market with their DRM it seems like they're purposely trying to kill it off by using the "piracy" excuse. I hope BIS doesn't follow this route with their games.

I was going to get this tomorrow but like an idiot forgot it was Easter, so I'll have to wait for Tuesday now thanks to bank holiday Monday too lol. That is assuming my local GAME even sells PC stuff any more. Their selection shrinks by the week.

Bulldogs
Apr 4 2010, 00:02
From what I hear the PC crashing/locking up errors only happened to a small number of players and they couldn't isolate the problem or re-create it so it became near impossible to fix. At least that's the excuse used.

Aeneas2020
Apr 4 2010, 01:56
i only had one lockup playing ME1 and it happened in the 1st two mins i ever played the game and never happened again...odd anyway back on topic i still havent bought Metro it seems to have divided a bunch of people

CameronMcDonald
Apr 4 2010, 09:17
Yeah, no ME1 troubles for me. Runs wonderfully.

As for Metro, I'll be picking it up shortly.

Sudayev
Apr 6 2010, 08:41
Right now I'm somewhere in the middle of the game I suppose, Armory Station the one before the frontline. So I have these two guys offering me some special gear: Black Suit with NV or Assault Armor (both for 100). I'm little mixed up at the moment because I dont know which one should I choose better. Is this choice practically determining rest of the game? It's like going into action or staying in shadows and pick em off from the distance.
There is also a thrid option - forget the armor and spend all cash on Scoped VSS rifle :D Mixed up anyways ...

Bulldogs
Apr 6 2010, 12:19
I spent all my cash on ammo and then went hellman... it was fun.

Pauld
Apr 6 2010, 16:30
I did the same thing i believe i was at the Armoury station and spent all my hard earned bullets on a new shiny silenced p90 with scope with military bullets :) boy that was probably the best decision i made thoughout the game

STALKERGB
Apr 6 2010, 22:39
Been playing metro 2033 most of today :) reayly enjoying it!

It seems to have been said in alot of places but it would be really nice if you could roam around a bit. I know it would lose alot of the drive of the story but the atmosphere and sense of each station being a living, breathing place really make me want to revisit alot of them. (Especially Polis!)

mrbinkels
Apr 6 2010, 23:06
I just bought it off steam today. I like the gameplay. It reminds me of a tri-cross between Doom3, Fallout 3, and HL2. Good stuff.

Nielsneo
Apr 7 2010, 01:50
Those are the signs of a multi platform game, not console port.

The game uses all of my 4 cores, show me a console port that can do that? I can also run the advanced PhysX on the cpu cores as its multithreaded (cos I've not got nvidia gpu), again show me a console port that does that. This engine was built with multi-core in mind, the game was made to suit all platforms.

Multicrossplatform games are mostly designed towards consoles. Metro 2033 is no exception. It does'nt matter that it's using all 4 cores of my processor and that it uses the Phyx engine on my Nvidia card, the fact remains that i can't enjoy this game to the fullest because of those obvious console designed features. And to me that is a dissapointment. It does not mean i hate the game. I really like it, but those features can be annoying and sometimes even ruin playtime because i'm TOO frustrated to keep playing. If they would just make motion blur and PP optional i would atleast enjoy it a little more with maxed out settings to really immerse myself in the atmosphere and story of this great game.

sparks50
Apr 7 2010, 02:58
I enjoy the human vs human gunfights(wish there were more of them) and the atmosphere is great.

Im walking on the surface now and the whole gasmask thing is annoying me, to the point that I am
intentionally holding off the mask to make my ingame character suffer.

Where do these people get electricity from? And what are the gas masks protecting you from? If I only could be bothered to read the book, I'm sure it would make sense.

Sudayev
Apr 7 2010, 06:56
I enjoy the human vs human gunfights(wish there were more of them) and the atmosphere is great.

Im walking on the surface now and the whole gasmask thing is annoying me, to the point that I am
intentionally holding off the mask to make my ingame character suffer.

Where do these people get electricity from? And what are the gas masks protecting you from?

Yes, gunfights are good but AI somethimes behaves very dumb. Nevertheless the thud of the body is something great in this game.

Hand to hand combat is looking really awesome too. When you move fast with your mouse your sight is blurred and everything happens so fast, you try to hit your adversary no matter the cost, which looks very desperate just like in real.

If there were more melee weapons to choose from, ranging from mighty FISTS to blunt weapons like clubs, hockey sticks to tools of ultimate destruction like axe or railway sledge. Melee system should be improved too. Two types of attack and third mouse button used for block/parry. This would be really sweet. Anyways this game has a great potential.

Enad
Apr 8 2010, 04:18
Metro 2033 is easily the best game I've ever played.
Well Besides ArmA II.

1.ArmA II
2.Metro 2033
3.ArmA 1

:D

Mr. Charles
Apr 8 2010, 16:59
I enjoy the human vs human gunfights(wish there were more of them) and the atmosphere is great.

Im walking on the surface now and the whole gasmask thing is annoying me, to the point that I am
intentionally holding off the mask to make my ingame character suffer.

Where do these people get electricity from? And what are the gas masks protecting you from? If I only could be bothered to read the book, I'm sure it would make sense.

The world in metro is full of nuclear fallout, so the gasmask protects the lungs from radiational burning. :bounce3:

sparks50
Apr 8 2010, 22:26
Then I'm sure you'll have some very clean lungs to go with that burned out skin, tumors and cancer :)

CameronMcDonald
Apr 8 2010, 22:52
Perhaps the gasmask is more to protect from pockets of noxious gases formed underground via decomposition of organic material, rather than radiation.

Just a thought.

Bulldogs
Apr 9 2010, 00:16
'cause everyone in the future suffers from a severe case of asthma brought on by a fear of open spaces.

GRS
Apr 9 2010, 00:16
Or maybe its just a game?

STALKERGB
Apr 9 2010, 11:37
Or maybe its just a game?

lol!

true that!

maybe its just theres a lack of oxygen after all the nukes have gone off?

great game though, so much fun!

Yoma
Apr 9 2010, 12:09
So far, another corridor shooter, nothing special, nice graphics, very linear gameplay.
Hate the checkpoint system.
The book is probably a lot better :p

Krycek
Apr 10 2010, 12:00
Just finished it and even if it's corridor shooter it was a very good game,story,atmosphere,graphics,everything.One thing annoyed me was the "hold the line" moments.It's like they wanted to make the game seems longer introducing these cheap methods.

Other than that bring on Metro 2.
Btw,those damn librarians kicked my ass and they eat tons of ammo.

About the ending:

I got the so called bad ending because I nuked the dark ones,don't see what was so bad about that because they killed people when trying to communicate."We want peace" my ass.

Bulldogs
Apr 10 2010, 13:23
There was another ending? Fair enough.

The librarians are crazy. Unless you're willing to use all your mil grades on them then just look them in the eye and keep backing away til they leave, just don't get stuck in a corner.

Krycek
Apr 10 2010, 18:46
I did looked'em in the eyes and backed up a little when they get nervous\ground scratching and they left through their holes but some of those fuckers kept coming back.
Very bad surprise to find one of them behind your back so I just decided to kill them even if it meant running around like a headless chicken shooting left and right.

About the other ending look for it on youtube,you get it if you do some nice things in the game.

Sudayev
Apr 10 2010, 22:23
Whats the best weapon to use again those librarians ? I'm stocking up at Polis right now, not sure which gun should I take. I have my VSS bought at the Armory station just before going to the Frontline and VSS (non scoped) turned to be a tremendous weapon!

NeMeSiS
Apr 11 2010, 00:19
The librarians are crazy. Unless you're willing to use all your mil grades on them then just look them in the eye and keep backing away til they leave, just don't get stuck in a corner.

They are easy, you can kill them with less then 10 shotgun shells from close range, just keep running around. I already had the shotgun with bayonet by then and sometimes i just stabbed at them to save bullets because i am a greedy bastard, not because i was low on ammo at that point. :D

Bulldogs
Apr 11 2010, 12:46
They are easy, you can kill them with less then 10 shotgun shells from close range, just keep running around. I already had the shotgun with bayonet by then and sometimes i just stabbed at them to save bullets because i am a greedy bastard, not because i was low on ammo at that point. :D

You mean you "weren't" low on ammo at some point... what game have I been playing then?

Sudayev
Apr 11 2010, 13:29
I kept my Helsing (bolt airgun) for the librarians. Excellent weapon. All eight bolts placed in their heads and it's done. Next thing is to pick up all bolts from that head-hedgehog of theirs ha ha. This gun never runs out of ammo if you pick all bolts from the monsters body ;)

NeMeSiS
Apr 11 2010, 14:25
You mean you "weren't" low on ammo at some point... what game have I been playing then?

On my first playtrough i pretty much rushed through the game without really looking for ammo, there were points in the game where i only had a couple of bullets left but at library i had plenty since I never bought weapons, just ammo and a combat suit, and you can buy ammo just before you go there.

I am currently replaying the game while searching properly for stuff and i am currently at the armory. I have almost 12 full magazines for my AK, 100+ bullets for my revolver (With extended barrel), 100+ shotgun bullets and about 50 of those little balls. More then 200 pre-war cartridges, though i am going to spend 100 on a stealth or combat suit. Maybe ill buy a new weapon as well.

Sudayev
Apr 11 2010, 14:41
I never used that combat shotgun, really I find it kinda weak. The only time I used it was during the very early episode where only weapon next to your six shooter is double barreled shottie. It better to kill with well placed shots or knives.

Bulldogs
Apr 11 2010, 22:39
Yarr, the combat shotgun is useless. The first play through I made the mistake of shooting away all my money before I realized I had it loaded.

Jakerod
Dec 11 2012, 16:33
Metro 2033 Free for Facebook fans (http://www.gamespot.com/news/metro-2033-free-for-facebook-fans-6401377)
In short, if you like the game's facebook page (I followed the link in the article) you get a free Steam copy). Deal only lasts until the 17th I think though.

Sudayev
Dec 11 2012, 18:08
Metro 2033 Free for Facebook fans (http://www.gamespot.com/news/metro-2033-free-for-facebook-fans-6401377)
In short, if you like the game's facebook page (I followed the link in the article) you get a free Steam copy). Deal only lasts until the 17th I think though.

I confirm, like their page, click on 'reveal code'. Activate new product on Steam and paste the generated code and the game is yours, sweet.

maturin
Dec 11 2012, 18:24
Anyone got a map or list of stations?

VIPER[CWW]
Dec 11 2012, 18:26
google is your friend (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=metro+2033+map&hl=en&safe=off&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=QIfHUJrOMMzK0AHtkYHIAg&ved=0CC4QsAQ&biw=1344&bih=759)

maturin
Dec 11 2012, 20:54
;2263289']google is your friend (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=metro+2033+map&hl=en&safe=off&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=QIfHUJrOMMzK0AHtkYHIAg&ved=0CC4QsAQ&biw=1344&bih=759)

Oh joy! A map of the real life Moscow metro. Thank you for your wise advice!

Or a map for Last Light... or fan-made maps based on the books... with no easy way to distinguish between them all.

Tonci87
Dec 12 2012, 06:23
Cool!

VIPER[CWW]
Dec 12 2012, 17:35
Oh joy! A map of the real life Moscow metro. Thank you for your wise advice!

Or a map for Last Light... or fan-made maps based on the books... with no easy way to distinguish between them all.

Not sure if being sarcastic.... Maybe work on how you put across your point in posts, this one and your last is ever confusing, which is probably why you only got one answer. ;)

To be even more helpful as it seems you can't differentiate what is what, here (http://www.hardcore-games.tk/gr/2010/metro2033.php) is one for you with a key.

DMarkwick
Dec 18 2012, 07:53
Well I got my free copy :)

Pity it doesn't work :(

ziiip
Dec 18 2012, 13:34
Same here. I click "install", but nothing happens.

DMarkwick
Dec 18 2012, 13:55
I can install it OK, but when I run it, I get the beginning of a welding logo animation then an error message. Looking around the net, it's a common problem with no single solution, and sometimes no solution.

Tonci87
Dec 23 2012, 18:49
I just finished the game with the good ending. Man this was one scary/adrenaline pumping/awesome trip!

Great game

Krycek
Dec 24 2012, 12:20
I've never managed to get the good ending and I always gave bullets to poor people and kids.
Felt bad about the Dark Ones.
Btw,I really hope we get to visit Kremlin in Last Light seeing that in the novel people say to don't look at the stars there.I'm "dying" to know what's there(except the biomass).:suspicious:

Mr_Centipede
Dec 24 2012, 21:38
Gamersgate is having deal of the day for this game for 5USD only.... should I get it? Is it really good?

CameronMcDonald
Dec 24 2012, 22:43
I've never managed to get the good ending and I always gave bullets to poor people and kids.
Felt bad about the Dark Ones.
Btw,I really hope we get to visit Kremlin in Last Light seeing that in the novel people say to don't look at the stars there.I'm "dying" to know what's there(except the biomass).:suspicious:

I was under the impression that all you had to do to get the good ending was knock over the laser designator at the end before the nuke strikes.

Tonci87
Dec 25 2012, 10:57
Gamersgate is having deal of the day for this game for 5USD only.... should I get it? Is it really good?

It is, go get it!

I´m really glad that THQ gave this away for free, otherwise I would have missed a great game. Somehow it manged to completely slip under my radar on release...

[FRL]Myke
Dec 26 2012, 12:52
I've got it through the Facebook giveaway. Put it aside after the 10th time the game took the control out of my hand for a 5 minute cutscene after 2-3 minutes actually playing.

Krycek
Dec 26 2012, 13:29
I was under the impression that all you had to do to get the good ending was knock over the laser designator at the end before the nuke strikes.

Problem is you get the action to knock down the laser designator only if you do certain things in the game.If you don't,that action isn't available and all you can do is to watch yourself guiding the missiles.:(
For example I read that giving bullets to kids and poor people isn't enough,you also need to go stealth and don't kill any fascists at Black Station and other silly things like playing guitar in the beginning.Here's the list:
http://metrovideogame.wikia.com/wiki/Moral_Points

Tonci87
Dec 26 2012, 15:15
Myke;2269170']I've got it through the Facebook giveaway. Put it aside after the 10th time the game took the control out of my hand for a 5 minute cutscene after 2-3 minutes actually playing.

How long have you played?

[FRL]Myke
Dec 26 2012, 16:42
How long have you played?

Don't know exactly...30-40 minutes then i got too annoyed...play 2 mins, watch 5 mins, play 2 mins, watch 5 mins, play 2 mins....

Tonci87
Dec 26 2012, 17:35
Myke;2269245']Don't know exactly...30-40 minutes then i got too annoyed...play 2 mins, watch 5 mins, play 2 mins, watch 5 mins, play 2 mins....

? I didn´t experience it like this. Well the game has such moments from time to time, but they usually take less than a minute. You should really give it another go.

ziiip
Dec 26 2012, 19:53
Did anyone else have problem installing the game using the exe file they handed out with the facebook promo? I launch it and click "install" which makes me log into Steam, but nothing happens afterwards.

VIPER[CWW]
Dec 26 2012, 20:41
did you go to your library and install?

Tonci87
Dec 26 2012, 20:51
Did anyone else have problem installing the game using the exe file they handed out with the facebook promo? I launch it and click "install" which makes me log into Steam, but nothing happens afterwards.
You could also just take the serial they gave you and use it on steam.

oxmox
Jan 3 2013, 12:28
Myke;2269245']Don't know exactly...30-40 minutes then i got too annoyed...play 2 mins, watch 5 mins, play 2 mins, watch 5 mins, play 2 mins....

I noticed aswell that the chapters are quiete short with lots of scripted gameplay, but I was watching my neighbour playing The Walking Dead for a while...this was more like watching TV than actually playing.