Flight Sim'ers: Lock On 2.0 Announced

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http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=782974#post782974

Will make DCS Blackshark and Lock On: Flaming Cliffs compatible online (WOOHOO!), add aircraft, and many fixes!

Combat flight sim'ers have been waiting on this for a long while :D

[Maddmatt]

I have been waiting for some kind of successor to Lock On to get into flight sims. I played bit of the first one, but never got into it and then it just seemed to old to bother with.

This is great news. I think I'll be buying it, I just hope I can get into it this time.

The graphics on the screenshots don't look too impressive though. I guess it's the same engine version as DCS now. Maybe they will be upgrading the engine along with DCS over time, I hope so.

Six more screenshots in this thread:
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=47143
The announcement posts have the same content, but the screenshots are different.

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Just depends on the settings really.

Doesn't look like they had the terrain or textures packs loaded in the first set. I get some pretty photorealistic setting with mine.

[Alex72]

Wow this is great news! :)

[Myshaak]

Wohoo, great find!

[andersson]

Nice combo! I'm in!

[JW Custom]

I haven't been in a combat flight sim since Falcon 4.0, maybe it's time to return :cool:

[Snake Man]

And in the end of the day when you want true combat flight sim, fire up Falcon 4 with latest user addons ;)

[JW Custom]

And in the end of the day when you want true combat flight sim, fire up Falcon 4 with latest user addons ;)

For me Falcon 4.0 looks so old, same goes with OpF :p

[Richey79]

Good news indeed. Thanks for the link.

Big fan of Blackshark.

[Supah]

And in the end of the day when you want true combat flight sim, fire up Falcon 4 with latest user addons ;)

Well I wouldn't try freefalcon unless you are willing to put up with a lot of instabillity!

[RaXz]

Falcon might look old, but it's still unbeaten with it's dynamic campaign and complexity, especially Open Falcon.

Lockon is a nice inbetween, but the thing that holds me off is the lacking of a intergrated dynamic campaign. I'll still keep my eyes peeled at Lockon 2.0, hopefully they won't add starforce this time.

[JW Custom]

Falcon might look old, but it's still unbeaten with it's dynamic campaign and complexity...

That was what i loved about it... but now today i can't see myself playing it :(

[Joey_45]

I'll still keep my eyes peeled at Lockon 2.0, hopefully they won't add starforce this time.

Q: What copy protection will be used?
A: StarForce online activation (only) will be used. Based on the success of DCS: Black Shark protection, we feel this provides the best compromise of user-friendliness and protection of property. Unlike the reported hardware problems reported with an earlier version of StarForce applied to the original Flaming Cliffs, no such issues have been reported with the current online activation method that does not install any drivers to the user’s computer.

[Richey79]

Flaming Cliffs and IL2 1946 will both be forever associated with memories of genuine buyers' DVDs not being recognised by Star****.

Shame, since they're the kind of software PC gamers would really love to be able to wholeheartedly support.

Something isn't functioning right when purchasers end up downloading cracked .exes.

[Joey_45]

If you don't buy a game because of it's protection then you need to get a life...

I myself have had no probs with any protection including SF.

[RaXz]

I have Silent Hunter 3 with starforce, but I am pretty hesistant to install it again. They have improved it over time, but their reputation is still really low, especially after that Stardock fiasco. I'll try to be optimistic, it sounds much better that they won't install drivers and such anymore.


Flaming Cliffs and IL2 1946 will both be forever associated with memories of genuine buyers' DVDs not being recognised by Star****

Sounds like what I had with Securom games, you bought a game and then you're deemed a pirate.

[TRexian]

Falcon 4 *.* pwns Lockon *.* :D

[PrivateNoob]

Falcon 4 *.* pwns Lockon *.* :D

True but more correct: Falcon 4 Allied force with HiTilesAF. :D

Anyway, instead of being an ignorant fanboi is Lockon 2.0 an expansion or something separate from Lock:on(1?)? My problem is actually to FIND
a place which sells this flightsim and not just flaming cliffs. I dont wanna
buy one piece here and another there, just give us all in one piece...ffs.
/Ranting

[TRexian]

hehe

Tom's tiles are/were excellent. :) But IMNSHO any F4 variant beats out any LO variant.

And hey - I guess we don't need FW after all! :D

(But AF was really just SP4+....) ;)

[Beagle]

No good news!
This for sure means the cancellation for the 1.13 Patch that should have fixed Lock On for free. It is not the first time that ED let us pay for a patch peppered with a few addons.

[Jex =TE=]

I haven't been in a combat flight sim since Falcon 4.0, maybe it's time to return :cool:

Falcon 4 has yet to be beat :)

For stable, online coop get the re-released Falcon 4: Allied Force

[RaXz]

Falcon 4 has yet to be beat :)

A really sad fact. :(

http://www.biocrawler.com/w/images/2/28/Microprose.png

:dead:

[Joey_45]

No good news!
This for sure means the cancellation for the 1.13 Patch that should have fixed Lock On for free. It is not the first time that ED let us pay for a patch peppered with a few addons.

it is patch 1.13, just more then a patch. It's been updated and intergrated into DCS:BS.

[TangoRomeo]

Excellent!
Although i don't applaud ED for sticking with Starforce.

[cjsoques]

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=782974#post782974

Will make DCS Blackshark and Lock On: Flaming Cliffs compatible online (WOOHOO!), add aircraft, and many fixes!

Combat flight sim'ers have been waiting on this for a long while :D

This is just incredible. I love the DCS guys. This is one step closer to the Virtual Battlefield concept that Janes and Microprose dreamed of.

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Falcon 4 has yet to be beat :)

For stable, online coop get the re-released Falcon 4: Allied Force

FYI, there is FreeFalcon5 out. Which is Falcon4 on steroids.

Multiple aircraft supported out of the box. Multiple cockpits. Upgraded AI. More realistic weapons systems. Carrier operations...and tons more. Check it out sometime. Oh and updated graphics and effects. Higher fidelity models also.

For me FreeFalcon5 works find on Vista and XP for me but crashes on Windows 7 but it my just be my setup.

[Barely-injured]

While this is not the proper place to ask. What about DCS ? will it benefit from the same upgrade ?. I mean I skipped flaming cliffs but own DCS:blackshark will I be able (by buying this upgrade) to play with su-27, F-15 etc.. in DCS (albeit with medium fidelity) ?

[Maddmatt]

While this is not the proper place to ask. What about DCS ? will it benefit from the same upgrade ?. I mean I skipped flaming cliffs but own DCS:blackshark will I be able (by buying this upgrade) to play with su-27, F-15 etc.. in DCS (albeit with medium fidelity) ?
Two separate games, but they can play together in MP. This update is mainly bringing Lock On up to date with DCS.

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I don't mind the SF protection. Seriously, how many times does one have to reinstall the game?

Also, if you make a backup of the registry key, you can reinstall without reactivation unless you reformat.

Falcon 4.0 was indeed great, but it's community has pretty much disappeared :(

[TRexian]

Falcon 4.0 was indeed great, but it's community has pretty much disappeared :(

I beg to differ. :)

It isn't what it once was, in the "glory" days of Combatsim and Delphi, but there are many still around (basically 3 camps).

[Snake Man]

Falcon 4 *.* pwns Lockon *.* :D
Yeah I'm just trying to educate the children here ;)


Falcon 4.0 was indeed great, but it's community has pretty much disappeared
http://tactical.nekromantix.com/f4/

[BangTail]

Falcon 4 *.* pwns Lockon *.* :D

Not even close.

The ONLY real advantage F4 has is the dynamic campaign. Flight model, radar model, weapons model etc are all way better in LO.

The dynamic campaign IS a significant feature and I wish ED had taken the time to design one but F4 hardly *pwns" LO.

And don't get me wrong, I really like F4, it's a great sim.

[JW Custom]

The dynamic campaign IS a significant feature...

Indeed, that was what really fascinated me about Falcon 4.0 :cool:

[Supah]

FYI, there is FreeFalcon5 out. Which is Falcon4 on steroids.

Multiple aircraft supported out of the box. Multiple cockpits. Upgraded AI. More realistic weapons systems. Carrier operations...and tons more. Check it out sometime. Oh and updated graphics and effects. Higher fidelity models also.

For me FreeFalcon5 works find on Vista and XP for me but crashes on Windows 7 but it my just be my setup.

Well for most, even after the recent patch, it is still highly unstable in most campaigns. Recently they fixed one of the campaigns but even there you get quite a few crashes. The campaign engine before this patch was just broken, which is sad because it is the main selling point for anything Falcon 4 based.

[Joey_45]

Do you know how difficult it is to do a DC...

A DC in FC2 and DCS would be fantastic. But it all boils down to how much you can afford and I think the engine aswel.

Would ArmA be anybetter with a DC?

[TRexian]

Not even close.
I agree it isn't even close!


The ONLY real advantage F4 has is the dynamic campaign. Flight model, radar model, weapons model etc are all way better in LO.
Oh.. wait... you meant LO is better? ;) :)

FM, radar, weapons models.... ah right... in the low res, no-switches, 3d-only pits? (Ok, Black Shark excluded in the pit thing.) Plus, LO has what - like 6 a/c to fly? And, most importantly, tight restrictions on any modifications. What you get is all you'll ever have.

How boring. :)


The dynamic campaign IS a significant feature and I wish ED had taken the time to design one but F4 hardly *pwns" LO.

They can't take the time, because they are too busy making plastic flight games. pwnage is pwnage, pure and simple. F4, while old, is still LO's only real competition in the market. Look - the original F4 stopped being published about 10 yrs ago, and I'm not even sure you can still buy AF (not that anyone would want to), and we are STILL talking about it! That's pwnification right there!


And don't get me wrong, I really like F4, it's a great sim.
I knew you'd come around. :D

(And I'm just razzin'.)

[BangTail]

I agree it isn't even close!


Oh.. wait... you meant LO is better? ;) :)

FM, radar, weapons models.... ah right... in the low res, no-switches, 3d-only pits? (Ok, Black Shark excluded in the pit thing.) Plus, LO has what - like 6 a/c to fly? And, most importantly, tight restrictions on any modifications. What you get is all you'll ever have.

How boring. :)



They can't take the time, because they are too busy making plastic flight games. pwnage is pwnage, pure and simple. F4, while old, is still LO's only real competition in the market. Look - the original F4 stopped being published about 10 yrs ago, and I'm not even sure you can still buy AF (not that anyone would want to), and we are STILL talking about it! That's pwnification right there!


I knew you'd come around. :D

(And I'm just razzin'.)

Just the fact that you keep using multiple variations of "pwn" is enough to end this conversation. Are you 12 or something?

Realism is important to me and F4 is nowhere near LO in the realism department. Unlike yourself, I remain objective, both are great sims with their own strengths and weakenesses.

[TRexian]

LOL

Indeed, F4 is nowhere near LO's "realism" - that's what makes it (F4) a sim, rather than a game (LO). :)

Friend, I really am just giving you a hard time out of fun. I've been in far too many, far more heated, conversations about topics like this to take it seriously.

Fly what you enjoy. :)

Peace out.

[cjsoques]

Well for most, even after the recent patch, it is still highly unstable in most campaigns. Recently they fixed one of the campaigns but even there you get quite a few crashes. The campaign engine before this patch was just broken, which is sad because it is the main selling point for anything Falcon 4 based.

Yeah I understand those problems due to the complexities they have added in. I have both Falcon4:AF, Falcon4 (with a ton of addons), and FreeFalcon5 all installed. AF for the stable campaign, Falcon4 for reminiscing the good old days, and FreeFalcon5 for all the great goodies and the single TE missions.

I believe they are working very hard on stabilizing the campaigns. I remember reading a couple weeks ago the latest patch made 2 of the campaigns foolproof, and even more dynamic than original Falcon4...they do admit problems with the tons of other campaigns they have thrown in there.

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I don't mind the SF protection. Seriously, how many times does one have to reinstall the game?

Also, if you make a backup of the registry key, you can reinstall without reactivation unless you reformat.

Falcon 4.0 was indeed great, but it's community has pretty much disappeared :(

You haven't been looking in the right places then if you think that

[TRexian]

Yeah I'm just trying to educate the children here ;)

Age and wisdom pwns n00biosity and y00th.

:D

[BangTail]

LOL

Indeed, F4 is nowhere near LO's "realism" - that's what makes it (F4) a sim, rather than a game (LO). :)

Friend, I really am just giving you a hard time out of fun. I've been in far too many, far more heated, conversations about topics like this to take it seriously.

Fly what you enjoy. :)

Peace out.

F4 has a dynamic campaign, that's the only real advantage it has (as I've conceded, it's a significant advantage and the single biggest omission in LO).

LO has far better flight, weapons and systems modelling etc. There is no argument, these are facts. Of course, if you'd rather act like a fanboy, have at it!

As you said, fly what you enjoy. Hawx sounds like a good choice for you :D

I like to "raz" as well ;)

[TRexian]

hehe

That's the spirit! :D

I'll concede the weapons modeling, and PERHAPS the systems modeling for non-F-16 a/c. (In fact, has LO even done an F-16 yet? Or are they avoiding it due to the direct comparisons?)

But, the flight modeling, no way. At least not with the community patches. Maybe if we're comparing out-of-the-box, then yeah... F4 barely worked out of the box. :D

If we compare any of the "modern" F4 variants then F4's FMs are more realistic. Now, if we compare the F4 community mods to the LO community mods... oh... wait... never mind - there AREN'T ANY!

Oh and speaking of Hawx, as I understand, they got their inspiration from LOs' magic push-this-button-to-do-the-Cobra flight model! WTF? Do they still have the push-this-button-to-land, too? Who really cares about rMin/rMax - just put the bogey in the box and push the button for the laser-rocket Russian magic missiles!

Now, Black Shark, from what I can tell, has set a new standard in helo sims. If they can do that with this next flightsim, that may really be the end of F4.... but we'll see. ;)

[BangTail]

hehe

That's the spirit! :D

I'll concede the weapons modeling, and PERHAPS the systems modeling for non-F-16 a/c. (In fact, has LO even done an F-16 yet? Or are they avoiding it due to the direct comparisons?)

But, the flight modeling, no way. At least not with the community patches. Maybe if we're comparing out-of-the-box, then yeah... F4 barely worked out of the box. :D

If we compare any of the "modern" F4 variants then F4's FMs are more realistic. Now, if we compare the F4 community mods to the LO community mods... oh... wait... never mind - there AREN'T ANY!

Oh and speaking of Hawx, as I understand, they got their inspiration from LOs' magic push-this-button-to-do-the-Cobra flight model! WTF? Do they still have the push-this-button-to-land, too? Who really cares about rMin/rMax - just put the bogey in the box and push the button for the laser-rocket Russian magic missiles!

Now, Black Shark, from what I can tell, has set a new standard in helo sims. If they can do that with this next flightsim, that may really be the end of F4.... but we'll see. ;)

I don't like the fact that they've picked the A10 (especially since it's been done already in LO)

I would've liked a Tomcat or an F-18 on the US side, or the Hind on the Russian side.

I was referring to "out of the box", I am aware that F4 has been heavily modded although we can't really compare properly as there is no F-16 in LO.

Cheers

[PrivateNoob]

and I'm not even sure you can still buy AF (not that anyone would want to), and we are STILL talking about it! That's pwnification right there!


You can buy AF anywhere, its not that old(2005) but finding Lock-on is another story.
The only thing I would like to see in AF is better clouds and perhaps that pilot-breathing sound that FF5.3 has. Flying AF with Winter terrain in balkans campaign is insane. :yay:

[TRexian]

@<hidden> BangTail - oh yeah, if F4 had not been modded, it would've withered on the vine. Even then, if the source code hadn't been leaked, the modding would not have been nearly as productive.

@<hidden> PvtNoob - I actually never saw AF locally in any stores. I imagine you can still buy it online, though, that's a good point. AF has other issues besides clouds, but the MP is a huge plus, and really, the different variants are all nuances of the same greatness. IMHO.

[[ASA]ODEN]

Free Falcon 5.3 - hell yeah!
Heard they have this awesome AJS-37 Viggen 2D cockpit too.
just awesome.
:)

[Joey_45]

You can buy AF anywhere, its not that old(2005) but finding Lock-on is another story.
The only thing I would like to see in AF is better clouds and perhaps that pilot-breathing sound that FF5.3 has. Flying AF with Winter terrain in balkans campaign is insane. :yay:

I've given up buying pc games in stores over here anymore. 90% of games in shops are consoles.

[cjsoques]

F4 has a dynamic campaign, that's the only real advantage it has (as I've conceded, it's a significant advantage and the single biggest omission in LO).

LO has far better flight, weapons and systems modelling etc. There is no argument, these are facts. Of course, if you'd rather act like a fanboy, have at it!

As you said, fly what you enjoy. Hawx sounds like a good choice for you :D

I like to "raz" as well ;)

Why so defensive and aggressive...

Flight Sim Games != Serious Business no need to be mean about it

:) chill

[BangTail]

Why so defensive and aggressive...

Flight Sim Games != Serious Business no need to be mean about it

:) chill

Neither. I was just being objective about both games rather than declaring a "winner".

Both great sims, everybody wins :)

[andersson]

And I thought this topic was about Lock On 2.0...

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Meh, any topic on LOMAC will always become LOMAC vs Falcon 4 or LOMAC vs Jane's F/A-18

then it will eventually get back on topic.

One good plus to this is that many of the enviromental physics that were put into DCS Blackshark will now be in LOMAC which is really gonna have an effect on flight dynamics. Also, then sensor fixes are LONG overdue.

[BangTail]

Meh, any topic on LOMAC will always become LOMAC vs Falcon 4 or LOMAC vs Jane's F/A-18

then it will eventually get back on topic.

One good plus to this is that many of the enviromental physics that were put into DCS Blackshark will now be in LOMAC which is really gonna have an effect on flight dynamics. Also, then sensor fixes are LONG overdue.

No need really, they are all great tbh :)

[RaXz]

Meh, any topic on LOMAC will always become LOMAC vs Falcon 4 or LOMAC vs Jane's F/A-18.

Different flavours, wish that the same could be said about ArmA. Comparing it to OFP:CWC just doesn't cut it.

But I've to admit, if I am gonna flightsim soon, I'll be firing up Over Flanders Fields Phase 3. That's were the real dog fights are, not pushing a lot of buttons, close combat with cubes with wings. It can get pretty intense when you are in a lowlevel dogfight and stalling at 200 feet above the frontlines.

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Heh, I forgot all about OFF :D

Camel Jockies rock :)

Rise of Flight was a bit of a disappointment. Still have hopes for SOW:BoB though.

All in all, 2009/2010 is a good period for sim and tactical games :)

[Alex72]

There is a fresh awesome combat airsim out now as you all know: DCS BLACK SHARK. And soon DCS A-10. And im waiting in agony for the DCS Apache! 2 seats combat hellying with a mate where one now for real is the navigator/pilot and your mate being the gunner. It will have proper FLIR and tons of proper avionics. And ofcourse the best to date flight model.

I think the Black Shark that is out now has the most realsitic flight model ever made. Engines have moving parts and fuel tubes can break and you get that problem etc. Its awesome. The engine however is the lockon engine (updated) and that could really be better (trees no collide). But DCS is working on their brand new engine AFAIK and there was talk abouti mplementing viewblocking smoke,and tanks popping smoke and go into formations, retreat etc. (now they just stop and fires at you).

So its like having a ferrari in a desert atm. :) The helicopter is amazing to fly. All things that can happen to the machine while you fly is breathtaking.

Think ill get the A-10 and then also the Apache when it comes. Flying a 99% realictic A-10 should be a blast.

[BangTail]

There is a fresh awesome combat airsim out now as you all know: DCS BLACK SHARK. And soon DCS A-10. And im waiting in agony for the DCS Apache! 2 seats combat hellying with a mate where one now for real is the navigator/pilot and your mate being the gunner. It will have proper FLIR and tons of proper avionics. And ofcourse the best to date flight model.

I think the Black Shark that is out now has the most realsitic flight model ever made. Engines have moving parts and fuel tubes can break and you get that problem etc. Its awesome. The engine however is the lockon engine (updated) and that could really be better (trees no collide). But DCS is working on their brand new engine AFAIK and there was talk abouti mplementing viewblocking smoke,and tanks popping smoke and go into formations, retreat etc. (now they just stop and fires at you).

So its like having a ferrari in a desert atm. :) The helicopter is amazing to fly. All things that can happen to the machine while you fly is breathtaking.

Think ill get the A-10 and then also the Apache when it comes. Flying a 99% realictic A-10 should be a blast.

I still wish they'd done an F-14 or an F-18 (especially for the carrier operations) but I guess the A10 will be fun.

[AUS_Twisted]

This topic name should be changed, as it's not a complete new version of Lock On but a upgrade to the expansion Flaming Cliffs to bring it to the DCS standard of the Lock On engine.

[RaXz]

They really should get a better engine, all those things are holding me off from a otherwise great sim. Trees are horrible in heli sims if it's just eyecandy, you can only popup from behind terrain and buildings. And just as you said, the AI are in desperate need of a upgrade, that's especially true for a heli sim. It sure is a ferrari in the desert. :lol:


Heh, I forgot all about OFF :D

Camel Jockies rock :)

Rise of Flight was a bit of a disappointment. Still have hopes for SOW:BoB though.

Yeah, damn, I was anticipating that game, it would be the true sequel to Knights of the Sky. A lot of complaints on their forum, and that nasty DRM for a flightsim that reduced modability was a big mistake. Sims and mods are synonymous to each other.


All in all, 2009/2010 is a good period for sim and tactical games :)

And people say that PC gaming is dead. :D

[schaefsky]

Well, was about time that some companies realise that while arcade games may sell better than sims, if everyone and their momma is just making arcade games it might be a good move make some sims again.
Love it!

[Maddmatt]

They really should get a better engine, all those things are holding me off from a otherwise great sim. Trees are horrible in heli sims if it's just eyecandy, you can only popup from behind terrain and buildings. And just as you said, the AI are in desperate need of a upgrade, that's especially true for a heli sim. It sure is a ferrari in the desert. :lol:

That's why I have no interest in their helicopter sims for now. Trees are like the grass was in early versions of ArmA. AI sees right through them, they have no collision. That's pretty bad considering how important they are to helicopter combat and how the DCS terrain is covered in them.

But for jet sims it's not so bad. So I'm looking forward to Lock On 2.0, I wonder if they will continue to support it as DCS progresses. I have a feeling they will dump it when DCS switches to a new engine.
If I enjoy Lock On enough maybe I'll get DCS: A10C.

[RaXz]

Well, was about time that some companies realise that while arcade games may sell better than sims, if everyone and their momma is just making arcade games it might be a good move make some sims again.
Love it!

So true, and I suspect that users usually will buy the software instead of aquiring it through other means. It's not rare that sims have a very dedicated community.


That's why I have no interest in their helicopter sims for now. Trees are like the grass was in early versions of ArmA. AI sees right through them, they have no collision. That's pretty bad considering how important they are to helicopter combat and how the DCS terrain is covered in them.

But for jet sims it's not so bad. So I'm looking forward to Lock On 2.0, I wonder if they will continue to support it as DCS progresses. I have a feeling they will dump it when DCS switches to a new engine.
If I enjoy Lock On enough maybe I'll get DCS: A10C.

It's the only thing that's holding me off, besides that I love flying with helis more than flying with fixed wing aircraft. I really hope they going to fix it while they release more DCS games.

Indeed, not so bad, but still bad if you take low altitude flying into de equation for avoiding radars. I really don't like to 'roleplay' to avoid the trees while they aren't a immediate threat. But it's still not so much a flaw as in heli sims. I am finally going to 'trial' Lockon, if I dig it I will buy 2.0 too. :)

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Looking at the images that were released for the A-10 Module a while back, grass is quite apparent in those images since it's showing infantry.

As far as the tree issue, it's a double edged sword. Making them objects and it can be a huge frame hit, especially when the viewdistance for flying needs to be what it is (not everyone has a gtx 260 Core 216 or better).

Alot of it depends on the mission as well. I find that infantry hiding in the trees is extremely difficult to find.

I enjoy Blackshark, LockOn, as well as ArmA2. IMHO - the three best games there are to play at the moment.

[Maddmatt]

As far as the tree issue, it's a double edged sword. Making them objects and it can be a huge frame hit, especially when the viewdistance for flying needs to be what it is (not everyone has a gtx 260 Core 216 or better).

Graphics card has nothing to do with collision detection, the view distance is irrelevant too.
The game has some dense cities where it has no problem with collision detection.
A bit of a CPU hit of course. AI view blocking will probably be a bigger performance hit.

This isn't 2003 any more though, I think we can handle the CPU hit.

I think development time is the problem. Maybe modifying the section of old code that is probably untouched since some early point in Lock On development is difficult.

[RaXz]

Well, the game is pretty heavy on the CPU, I don't know how it is now I only played the Russian version. Sure, a lot of hardware can handle the hit, but there is still a crowd on the lower end. If it were so easy they had fixed it by now, I guess they still have a lot of streamlining to do with the engine. DCS has a lot more going on in avionic systems compared to Lockon as far as I know it. I you said, I think the old code in the engine is the bottleneck, it's like fitting highend stuff in a lowend machine, it will require a lot of modification.

By the way, how's multicore holding up with DCS Black Shark? Last time I played you got a huge performance boost if you played in Vista with a affinity tweak. If I buy the game I want to play it in XP64, I don't want a triple boot for just one game.

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Matt, I know people who JUST upgraded their CPU's to an AMD 64 3200.

It may not be 2003, but there's many people out there who can't afford to live in the here and now :(

[AUS_Twisted]

Sims can't have everything, Flight Sim X has the same problem with trees. Just like ArmA 2 has many problems with certain things.