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kavoven

Oct 15 2009, 21:38

Hi guys,

I just finished watching the third episode of the new Stargate series and after getting over having lost all the well-known characters and starting with a complete new cast, I really like the new approach, though I'm still sad that they didn't bring a sixth SG Atlantis season. :cool:
(Yes, there'll be a film, I know)

I was wondering what happend to the super wormhole drive that brought Atlantis during the last episode from Pegasus to Earth and why they didn't use it to bring the Icarus Base crew back, but I found a blog from one of the procuders and he said that this wormhole drive thing will be explained in the movie :)

What do you think? Any other SG Fans out there? :)

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Trailer Season 1
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Trailer season 2
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Canukausiuka

Oct 16 2009, 01:23

Yeah, there are more of us. This series seems to me to be heavily influenced by BSG... not that that's a bad thing. I doesn't feel like the other Stargate shows to me to be honest, but its barely off the ground. I'll be watching it though!

kavoven

Oct 16 2009, 08:30

Thats right, its not as shiny and polished as the others. I'm really excited about the new alien species and especially the new enemy :)

MadDogX

Oct 16 2009, 09:30

I've really enjoyed it so far. It's kind of a strange mixture between Stargate, Star Trek Voyager and the new Battlestar Galactica.

On the one hand it's obviously set in the Stargate canon, the being lost on a ship a long way from home reminds me of Voyager, while the fact that they're basically wandering aimlessly through the universe is very reminiscent of BSG. Also there's the whole "limited supplies" thing that was also often a theme in BSG (less so on Voyager).

What really sets it apart from any of those series though is the fact that they can actually communicate with people on Earth from the beginning. So it's not the usual "zOMG we're completely cut off from home!" theme.

The characters are also very refreshing for a change (the previous Stargate series were rather predictable regarding their characters). They've basically jumbled things up a bit and introduced some more unusual people, which makes the series a little bit more interesting to watch.

I'm especially interested to see what will happen with the "loose cannon" soldier dude. He seems to alternate between fairly likeable and borderline pychotic, so I guess he could just snap at any moment. ;)

Dwarden

Oct 16 2009, 10:02

3rd episode was extremely weak ... if they cut half of it , result would be same

kavoven

Oct 16 2009, 10:57

Jakerod

Oct 16 2009, 21:59

I think one problem with a new series is the progress the whole Stargate program made during the Atlantis expedition and the last seasons of SG1 and the logical problems resulting out of this development.

During the first episode when the ships attacked Icarus base I was wondering why the Hammond didn't use its Asgard weapons, since I remember fairly well how they finished off those Wraith ships during episode 4 of SG:A.

But anyway, I agree with you Maddog that the characters are indeed very refreshing. Not so many mainstream guys :)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCj9R0N2a1U
This is the song used in the trailer :)

The common excuse for the lack of Asgard weapons is that the Hammond wasn't finished yet. According to the producers, the show starts a week or two after Atlantis ends and the Hammond wasn't ready then and may still not be completely finished now. They may have just needed a way to get people to Icarus so they chose to send it not seeing that there might be a battle. It was supposed to be a secret base after all and from what i'm told the planet is supposed to be pretty close to Earth.

Other than a few minor actions that lacked common sense I have been enjoying it though. I plan to watch it as long as I can and I even took off work for the night of the premiere (my manager is also a fan so he understood and I wasn't needed anyway). Im looking forward to tonight's episode.

Sennacherib

Oct 16 2009, 23:04

stargate universe seems really interesting; "seems" because with only 3 episodes, this is difficult to make a real judgement. but i like the story:

- a ship which chooses the gates, and give 12 hours of explorations

this is great.

i was really disappointed by sg1 at the end of the show: king arthur, merlin!!! lol this was a little bit stupid. the authors seemed to have a lack of ideas.

btw: alaina huffman is almost a copy of amanda tapping, i mean physically :eek:

Bulldogs

Oct 17 2009, 05:19

I actually really like the new series. 3rd episode was a bit boring and the show is pretty slow moving but it's establishing it's base. The show itself is a lot darker and raw, which is good, and a lot more scifi and less military, which is acceptable for now, but I think the show has a lot of promise.

kavoven

Oct 18 2009, 18:45

Now this episode (4th) was weak... I'm already really annoyed of Chloe, and Eli running behind her like a dog on heat doesn't help either. What I really liked about Atlantis was that they were telling all the technical details why anything is malfunctioning. Now the ship is just "broken". Hope the next one will be better :)

Btw, anyone else reminded of McCay - Zelenka after the short conversation between Rush and the other physican? :)

Shadow.D. ^BOB^

Oct 18 2009, 21:27

Nah McKay would have had the ship working by now and then found some fandaggled way to get a good meal (after all he gets hungry).

Must admit Universe isnt as grappling a previous shows, but i still cant wait a week after each episode to see the next so something must be right.

Gonna watch all of this first season whatever happens...

P.S. I want O'Neill (thats two L's :) ) to swap places with Young for an episode.
On that note why not get one of the old crew like Carter/McKay etc to use the comm stones and give Rush a hand.

Jakerod

Oct 18 2009, 21:33

Must admit Universe isnt as grappling a previous shows, but i still cant wait a week after each episode to see the next so something must be right.

Gonna watch all of this first season whatever happens...

Agreed. I also like how it is some what more realistic than the last ones too. At some point I couldn't take the "We lost 14 men today, but we're just going to crack jokes for the last 5 minutes and pretend nothing happened." I understand that humor is the kind of thing that some people do to deal with tragedy but something always felt off about it. Now if they'd just stop firing AT4s at fast moving spaceships.

kavoven

Oct 18 2009, 21:57

Nah McKay would have had the ship working by now and then found some fandaggled way to get a good meal (after all he gets hungry).

Right, you got me there :D

Scrub

Oct 18 2009, 23:11

Just like a good game, it's set up with a few capable but inexperienced people, in a ship they don't know (older tech they have to guess at, as they are use to the latest technology they had before ascension), and have to learn and adapt. I can't wait until they turn the autopilot off and get control for themselves. (I really like the BSG influence as well, makes it not so storybookish)

MadDogX

Oct 19 2009, 07:31

I'm really starting to love this series. It's a definite break from the light-hearted tone of SG-1 and Atlantis, which was pretty much the only thing that has always annoyed me about the franchise. Also the fact that the cast is fairly large and there isn't a core group of people (like the SG-1 team or some such) who seem to have "contractual immortality (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ContractualImmortality)".

In my mind the worst SG-1 episode ever was when O'Neill, Carter and Daniel Jackson were captured by Hathor, and General Hammond sent about 6-7 Teams to get them back. Of course there was a huge battle and something like 15 SG members died... but whatever. The main cast was saved, right? Hooray, time for cocktails!

Thankfully, stuff like this is less likely to happen in SGU. Of course the "central characters" (Dr. Rush, Eli, Col. Young etc.) still won't be dying left, right and center, but they definitely don't have the same kind of plot armor (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main.PlotArmor)as the guys in SG-1/Atlantis.

Icewindo

Oct 19 2009, 16:20

I'm annoyed by the rapid camera cuts and sometimes shaky footage (something I could never like in BSG), but other than that I'm surprised in a positive way.

I'm eager to see what kind of (alien) enemies they will put into the show, tbh. I'm missing the "bad guys with masks".

I understand the concentration to the crew itself and their problems being dramatized, but I hope once the problems are solved we will some shooting, lasers, explosions and deaths :p .

kavoven

Oct 19 2009, 16:27

One of the producers stated that the big guns of the Destiny will find some use in the future ;)

Abs

Oct 21 2009, 17:46

Now if they'd just stop firing AT4s at fast moving spaceships.

That made me lol too.

I really want Rush to get killed off. What a poom-poom-punani. ...And I used to think McKay was annoying...this new guy takes the cake!

I think my favourite aspect of the show is how Talford is trying to get Young kicked out. I like Young, and can't wait to see him totally embarrass Talford. If I were Young, I would take Talfords body, and then go and get him maimed...perhaps paralyzed. That'd teach him to fuck with me. :bounce3:

I'm pretty excited to see the next 16 episodes.

Abs

Jakerod

Oct 21 2009, 20:24

One of the producers stated that the big guns of the Destiny will find some use in the future ;)
From Joseph Mallozzi's (Producer) Blog (http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/october-9-2009-an-sgu-heavy-mailbag/)

Paddy writes: “I saw in the opening whislt seeing the destiny that she had some pretty big guns on her* Will we see them in action?”

Answer: Oh, we will.

Just to reinforce your point with the actual line.

kavoven

Oct 21 2009, 20:55

Thats exactly what I read, but I forget the name of the blog and didn't want to search again :D

Thanks!

Jakerod

Oct 24 2009, 15:35

I thought the episode (Light) this week was very good. This is the first time they haven't ended it with something making me wish that the week was shorter though.
The sex scene at the beginning seemed kind of out of place though.

kavoven

Oct 24 2009, 22:35

Right...finally online...

Though it doesn't matter that much, I really, really liked the music in this episode. It was amazing :)

And though the episode was good, I thought it was some kind of ... unnecessary. Nothing actually happend, they simply damaged their Shuttle and you learned more about some intenser relationships, which aren't Stargate-like in my opinion... I think the series needs to move on now, there hasn't been real progress since the first episode.

Jakerod

Oct 25 2009, 04:53

kavoven

Oct 25 2009, 08:34

That would be really interesting, indeed :)

Abs

Oct 25 2009, 09:20

Right...finally online...

Where do you watch it?

Abs

kavoven

Oct 25 2009, 09:22

Due to the forum rules I think discussions like this one should stay out of the thread... :)

Abs

Oct 25 2009, 09:31

Fair enough...silly me for asking. :)

Abs

R0adki11

Oct 25 2009, 10:50

im liking the new series, but it doesn't seem to have that punch like the other two stargate series, but that's because we have had any proper fighting yet against an enemy yet. The show is looking very promising, just cant wait for it to get going properly, the episode light wasn't too bad could have been better. But once people get use to these new characters i think it will be another loved series.

Bulldogs

Oct 25 2009, 12:21

Finding out it gets power from stars could be an important detail later. I just want to know what flew off the back of the ship at the end of Air (Part III)

I think that was the shuttle that what's her face's dad died in

Jakerod

Oct 25 2009, 13:35

Where do you watch it?

Abs
They put them up on Hulu the Saturday after they play. Granted I think that Hulu might have international restrictions on it. You could also try whatever channel it plays on in your local region like SyFy.com or Skye.com. I can't remember what it plays on in Canada though.

@<hidden>
It wasn't a shuttle. The engine color and layout was different and the shape of the ship in general was different. Not to mention it flew off a part of the ship where the shuttles aren't docked.

Bulldogs

Oct 25 2009, 15:16

They put them up on Hulu the Saturday after they play. Granted I think that Hulu might have international restrictions on it. You could also try whatever channel it plays on in your local region like SyFy.com or Skye.com. I can't remember what it plays on in Canada though.

@<hidden>
It wasn't a shuttle. The engine color and layout was different and the shape of the ship in general was different. Not to mention it flew off a part of the ship where the shuttles aren't docked.

Seems the most common theory around is that it's a pod that seeds stargates, although it's odd that it's a different configuration to the main ship

Abs

Oct 26 2009, 00:42

I know I'm a little late to chime in, but I liked this episode.

I think it showed the character of a lot of the people there, especially Rush, and the army dude that got knocked out.

Now that the ship is fully powered, I expect we'll see a lot more interesting things in the next episode.

Abs

MadDogX

Oct 26 2009, 06:13

I think it showed the character of a lot of the people there, especially Rush, and the army dude that got knocked out.
Speaking of the "army dude", what happened to him? There have been two SGU shows now that have ended strangely. First at the end of "Air" part 3

where some kind of shuttle or escape pod seemed to undock from the ship. I thought someone had stolen the working shuttle at first, but that's obviously still there.

then the bald "army dude"

who was knocked out by Greer last episode. After he woke up, he was briefly seen stalking around the ship, obviously looking for someone (Greer?). I expected him to do something insane before the end of the episode, but nothing happened.

Abs

Oct 26 2009, 07:50

Yea, I expected him to go after Young because of the choice that was made. It was kinda disappointing.

Abs

Dwarden

Oct 26 2009, 08:43

so far nothing special ... i would save time of 1 whole episode by removing useless scenes from last 3 (prolonged drama of nothing but e.g. sand and sand and sand and sand agian ;) )

oh well ...

MadDogX

Oct 26 2009, 09:30

so far nothing special ... i would save time of 1 whole episode by removing useless scenes from last 3 (prolonged drama of nothing but e.g. sand and sand and sand and sand agian ;) )

oh well ...
Yeah, the sand scenes were a bit drawn out, but when you consider that they were supposed to have spent 12 hours there it's not surprising. If they had cut those scenes down to five minutes, it would have felt much too short I think.

Dwarden

Oct 26 2009, 10:26

no the point is you get absolutely nothing from these scenes ... they too long and wasting time for more important content like what's going on board ship ...

so far i would say my impression from SGU are below average to low
it's sad as the potencial is there and portions of script are good but overall result is waste

MadDogX

Oct 26 2009, 10:54

no the point is you get absolutely nothing from these scenes ... they too long and wasting time for more important content like what's going on board ship ...
I guess it's a matter of taste. Personally, I never reached a point during the desert scenes when I would have been thinking "fuck this desert! what's going on on the ship?". The whole episode was centered around finding the right stuff for their air filters in the desert. There was nothing much going on on the ship, except for people worrying about suffocating.

so far i would say my impression from SGU are below average to low
it's sad as the potencial is there and portions of script are good but overall result is waste
Disagree. :)

The pacing is slower than the previous Stargate installments and some scenes are rather drawn out, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It's very much like the first few episodes of the new Battlestar Galactica, where they spent a whole episode jumping away from the Cylons every 33 minutes, or looking for Starbuck on an uninhabitable planet.

I find these kinds of episodes important for building up atmosphere and characters, but your mileage may vary of course.

Bulldogs

Oct 26 2009, 12:18

Admittidly, with BSG I got so bored of the series slow pace that I waited til the end of each season, bought the box set and watched them all in a row.

Baker65

Oct 26 2009, 12:45

I knew this series was in trouble even before it aired when the producers said "this is not your fathers Stargate". This is always a receipe for disaster like "new" Coke. It's basically a "bait and switch" situation. To me it would be like ArmA3 being a knockoff of the cartoony Team Fortress 2.

I watched Stargate because it was Stargate. Call the series something other than Stargate because the gate itself is about the only thing the two have in common. Maybe Battlestar Galactica lite would be a better title? I've read many interviews with the producers and they are planning on turning the series on its head.

Placebo

Oct 26 2009, 13:36

kavoven

Oct 26 2009, 16:33

I've watched the first three episodes, I love the Stargate franchise but it seems they simply nicked the Star Trek: Voyager premise, sever lack of originality is IMO going to stop the show going beyond 2 seasons.

Quite a good guess, I'll expect that, too, judging by all the bad reviews from people.

The thing is, Baker65 is right with "its not really stargate" since they used the gate 2 times in 5 episodes...

On the other hand a new SG1 or new Atlantis would be quite boring because it would result in more and more technical progress. And people on Earth are, technically not so far beyond the Ancients (remember they beat the Wraith and the Replicators, who both were a nemesis for the Ancients)

Only new story I could think of would be some kind of inter-galatic organisation much farer developed than everything before.

MadDogX

Oct 26 2009, 18:05

The thing is, Baker65 is right with "its not really stargate" since they used the gate 2 times in 5 episodes...
The trend of using the Stargate less and less started a long time ago. At the beginning of SG-1, the only way to reach other worlds was to travel through the gate. Twelve years later we've got humans flying around in their own starships, kicking ass across three galaxies. The problem in SG-1 and Atlantis is they no longer need the Stargate to get anywhere. Even if the entire network collapsed, they could simply fly around in their ships and everything would be fine. It's no longer primarily about the Stargate. Insisting on using the Stargate at least once every episode would turn gimmicky very fast.

I've watched the first three episodes, I love the Stargate franchise but it seems they simply nicked the Star Trek: Voyager premise, sever lack of originality is IMO going to stop the show going beyond 2 seasons.
Atlantis was similarly unoriginal. Humans exlore galaxy, encounter [insert evil alien race]. Fight for survival ensues. Oh noez, protect Earth! Sound familiar? I think SGU is a pleasant break from that formula. Yes, it does have a whiff of Voyager to it, but you could say that about pretty much any series about people stuck somewhere far away from home. Lost for example.

Having a vaguely similar premise to another series is hardly something I'd call "unoriginal". Nowadays you can be pretty sure any new film or TV series will be reminiscent of something that's already been done before. The trick is to still keep it interesting, and I think SGU is doing pretty well so far. The characters are deeper than on the previous SG series, they're in a whole new area of space, far away from Earth, yet they can still communicate with Earth through the stones, allowing for a change of scenery and some interesting character development that we've already seen in the first few episodes - very much unlike on Voyager.

I think the main problem people have with SGU is "They changed it, now it sucks" (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheyChangedItNowItSucks) syndrome. The same thing happened with Atlantis and it will always happen whenever someone creates a spin-off of something great. People just need to get used to it.

Drew

Oct 27 2009, 00:42

it reminds me of a combo betwee battle star & Stargate

Bulldogs

Oct 27 2009, 01:49

The core story has been done a few too many times (Voyager, Stargate Atlantis), trapped in another galaxy/other side of the galaxy, trying to get home.

I still like the series though, but it's kinda like one episode of Stargate drawn out into 10 episodes (kinda like Draonball Z), which is getting a little too slow and boring. I'm hoping that it's just for the first 7 or 8 episodes, just to build the character backgrounds up, then they can meet and enemy and get into the fun of it.

Abs

Oct 28 2009, 05:48

Someone had coined this series:

SGU: Battlestar Voyager

It fits...but either way, I still like it. I really just wish they wouldn't leave such loose ends. Like the two people who jumped through the portal during the desert episode.

Either way, I'm still looking forward to the next episode.

Abs

MadDogX

Oct 28 2009, 06:04

I really just wish they wouldn't leave such loose ends. Like the two people who jumped through the portal during the desert episode.
Yeah, I've been wondering about them too. They didn't respond when Eli tried to contact them, so whatever happened at the other end, it probably wasn't good. But they might not necessarily be dead. They might return in a couple of episodes, having experienced some weird shit. :D

Anyway, I think the "loose ends" are being created on purpose, so the writers have an array of threads to pick up later down the line. I can see a few interesting storylines coming...

Scrub

Oct 28 2009, 11:09

Good thought about the loose ends, start early.

I'm thinking they are rather stuck in their current location with no chance of getting home. In Atlantis, they needed a new form of power (ZPM).. In SG:U they need a new form of power (purpose adapted planet). Maybe a bit formulaic, but the chances of finding ancient tech while flying in the only piece of ancient tech in that region of the universe is slim. All hail the power of impromptu method writers. :D

MadDogX

Oct 28 2009, 12:01

Maybe a bit formulaic, but the chances of finding ancient tech while flying in the only piece of ancient tech in that region of the universe is slim.
Indeed. From what we know so far, the only other ancient tech in the region would be stargates deployed by the "gate seeder" ship. Possibly also the seeder ship itself if it crashed somewhere or otherwise got stuck. Everything else they might encounter is still pretty much wide open.

At this point I'd like to point out that all three known galaxies so far (Milky Way, Pegasus and the Ori Galaxy) were largely populated either by humans taken from Earth or by direct decendents of the ancients. All other humanoids were either dependant on human hosts (Goa'uld), evolved as humanoid hybrid offshoots (Wraith), or actually created in the human/ancients image (human form replicators). Well, except the Nox (their origin is unclear).

Looking at those facts, I am assuming that any alien races they encounter in SGU should be non-humanoid. At the very least the writers would have a hard time explaining how human-like aliens got all the way out there. Should be interesting to see what they come up with, especially since it has been said in an interview that the Destiny will be using its huge guns somewhere down the line. :)

kavoven

Oct 28 2009, 17:00

Hu, I thought the Destiny was the gate seeder ship?

Victor

Oct 28 2009, 17:03

I personally couldn't stand the previous Stargate series's. This one is actually quite good. This show is a decent alternative coming off of Battlestar Galactica,

Jakerod

Oct 28 2009, 19:00

Hu, I thought the Destiny was the gate seeder ship?
Nope, there was at least one ship that went before it and planted the stargates. This ship was mean't to explore them.

Also there are 4 known galaxies. Milky Way, Pegasus, Ori, and Ida (Asgard).

There are other aliens too. Furlings, Reetu, Asgard, Bug like things from the ones with the ship trying to terraform the planet, bug like ones that were like a plague, the giant ones from the episode with the crystal skull, the ones that were able to make themselves look human using the technology and im sure there are others.

kavoven

Oct 28 2009, 19:15

Ah ok, I misunderstood that...

Would like to see the Nox again, I really liked them :)

MadDogX

Oct 28 2009, 19:33

Nope, there was at least one ship that went before it and planted the stargates. This ship was mean't to explore them.
^^ This.

Also there are 4 known galaxies. Milky Way, Pegasus, Ori, and Ida (Asgard).
Oh yeah. I forgot about the Asgard galaxy.

There are other aliens too. Furlings, Reetu, Asgard, Bug like things from the ones with the ship trying to terraform the planet, bug like ones that were like a plague, the giant ones from the episode with the crystal skull, the ones that were able to make themselves look human using the technology and im sure there are others.
True, but they are minor. The Furlings haven't been seen at all to my knowledge, the Reetu appeared in something like two episodes and most other aliens only in a single one. Anyway, my point was that the three known "main" galaxies (Ida was hardly seen) are mostly populated by humanoids because of the ancients. The galaxies visited by Destiny should be populated by completely different species, since the ancients have never been there. :)

Oct 28 2009, 19:47

Despite everything, I enjoyed it (only just got round to watching the episodes that have aired already)

Yes there are good bits and yes there are bad bits. It might not be a new idea, but it kept me entertained. And at the end of the day, isnt that what counts?

Scrub

Oct 28 2009, 22:06

MadDogX

Oct 29 2009, 11:20

Hmm, seeing this info all together like this makes me think. Atlantis was special, it had a Gate, a base, and a ZPM (almost all others did not). Was it a galaxy link? I bet there are specific intergalactic gates, aaaand, not sure how they get the destiny through except the Ori black hole type gate. Well, it's a fractured piece of thought on the subject :p
I think any gate can serve as an intergalactic gate, provided it's hooked up to the right power source. They used several different gates in the SGC during the run of SG-1 and none of them seemed to be incapable of diallig other galaxies, or getting dialled from them.

The special things about Atlantis (i.e. the reason the Wraith wanted it so badly) were not only the base and the ZPMs, but also the fact that the address to dial Earth was in the computer, and the Wraith needed the codes to open the Earth iris. So even if they had found a ZPM at some point and managed to hook it up to a stargate - perhaps in a base similar to Atlantis, they still couldn't have reached Earth. Although they could concievably have randomly dialled some other place in the Milky Way.

kavoven

Oct 31 2009, 13:41

"Water" was a bit dull... There were some events, but still...No real progress. They don't tell us anything new about the ship or about the Ancients and thats what I always liked about Stargate :-/

Pathy

Oct 31 2009, 15:13

I liked it, just as i've liked the rest so far. Ok so it's not your typical Stargate, but then again, Stargate was formulaic cheese, and lets face it, theres only so much cheese you can stomach! The slower paced story will always have its drawbacks, but I have a feeling Stargate Universe will stay fresh alot longer than its counterparts because it hopefully won't just be the same thing each week with slightly different prosthetics.

-=seany=-

Oct 31 2009, 18:07

I find SG:U more cheesy than any other SG series. I didn't like Atlantis really, the characters sucked mostly. I still keep watching SG:U to see how it goes, but so far, they want to be so much like BSG its painful. Seems innovation is something that left the SG production team along time ago.

Since we are on the Scifi theme, I have to say that Caprica looks very interesting and the pilot was great. SG team are emulating BSG but BSG has already moved on. It saddens me because the concept behind the SG is great, so much potential.

Jakerod

Nov 1 2009, 00:45

I liked the last episode and show in general. The last two endings haven't given me the same "I can't wait until next week feeling" that the rest of the episodes did.

kavoven

Nov 1 2009, 03:02

I find SG:U more cheesy than any other SG series. I didn't like Atlantis really, the characters sucked mostly. I still keep watching SG:U to see how it goes, but so far, they want to be so much like BSG its painful. Seems innovation is something that left the SG production team along time ago.

This depends on the season you started with. My first SG series was Atlantis and I like(d) it much more than SG1. (Still I had to watch all SG1 episodes to know the complete story =) )

Abs

Nov 1 2009, 11:01

(Still I had to watch all SG1 episodes to know the complete story =) )

I just started doing the same thing. I've only watched Atlantis, and I'm on the second episode of SG-1. Something tells me that once I'm done it all, I'll be waiting for the Stargate mod to hurry up so that I can get my fix! ;)

Abs

kavoven

Nov 1 2009, 15:20

Its really cool how the whole story started and fits...Developement of the naquada generators, construction of the first ship... it all really makes sense at the end :)

MehMan

Nov 1 2009, 15:43

Oh god how these forums went down the drain...

-=seany=-

Nov 1 2009, 17:54

Oh god how these forums went down the drain...

Way to add to the conversation. One's internal thoughts should be explained, lest one wants to look demented :D

MehMan

Nov 1 2009, 18:03

Well, threads like these would usually be locked, deemed too off topic for off topic(oddly enough). There was a time when even humour was banned, as I got warned for asking how much more awsome I could be.

I guess things are getting more relaxed.

In any case, watched the first couple of seasons of the original Stargate when it was on TV and I didn't have the internets. Liked it, but some of the episodes were just insane in concept.

Abs

Nov 1 2009, 19:40

Well, threads like these would usually be locked, deemed too off topic for off topic(oddly enough). There was a time when even humour was banned, as I got warned for asking how much more awsome I could be.

So as someone who used to break the forum rules in an attempt at humour you're complaining that the forum is now more relaxed?

You're an oddball, Mehman.

Abs

kavoven

Nov 1 2009, 20:03

Please don't hijack the thread for discussions about this topic ...

MehMan

Nov 1 2009, 20:15

So as someone who used to break the forum rules in an attempt at humour you're complaining that the forum is now more relaxed?

You're an oddball, Mehman.

Abs

There's no fun in it if I'm not breaking any rules :D.

MadDogX

Nov 2 2009, 09:06

I didn't enjoy "Water" as much as the previous episodes, possibly because the situation was resolved too quickly and there were too many idiot ball moments. It seems like a one-off episode that may aswell not have happened. So far we've had two story arcs in SGU, each with their own purposes:

"Air 1/2/3": Introduced the ship, showed how the peeps got stranded on it, repaired it to make it habitable.

"Darkness/Light": Refilled the ships energy supply (well, partially) and told us out more about it (the ship apparently acts to preserve itself and anyone on board etc.).

Now with "Water" we had some aliens on board that were somehow consuming the water supply without actually acquiring its mass (where the hell did those tiny sand-grain things put 40.000 liters of water? :confused: As Cartman would say: the fuck?). And by the end of the episode

the bugs have been chucked out through the Stargate, a minor guy has died (served the idiot right for firing a handgun at a fucking cloud of dust), and the main character teetering on the brink of death was saved at the last minute.

The dead guy will probably never be talked about again, except perhaps a passing mention as a nod to continuity. The sand-bugs are now apparently gone. It would have been so much cooler if they had left them locked up in that room, to be picked up for some later plot. How could they escape from an airtight room anyway?

Overall this is the first episode where I would agree with the people complaining about the storyline not moving on much. Not only did it a lot of it make very little sense, but we're pretty much back where we left off, except for having less water.

Jakerod

Nov 2 2009, 18:10

@<hidden>
Spoilers for Water
Regarding the air tight room it is possible they managed to open it a bit. They did break through the can that they were put in so I can imagine that its possible that they found a small opening/dent/crack in the door and used it as leverage to open it a tiny bit.

That guy was pretty dumb for firing too.

Its also possible that when they drink the water it turns to a gaseous state or something like that. I hadn't thought about that before.

Abs

Nov 3 2009, 19:20

Well, they did hypothesize that only a small amount came back through the gate, so I just assumed a small number came back that they used the water to multiply and become a large swarm.

Abs

kavoven

Nov 3 2009, 19:57

The next episode looks promising!

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Abs

Nov 3 2009, 20:40

Sweet! I'm looking forward to it! :D Finally it looks like things will be heating up.

Abs

Abs

Nov 7 2009, 19:03

Really? No comments after that incredibly dramatic episode?

- I hate Talford. I hope he dies a million painful deaths.
- Rush is in my good books. I never thought I'd say that.
- Maybe I don't know enough about the whole SG series, but why can't they all get on a planet when the ship dials in next time, and then dial back to Earth from there?

Abs

MadDogX

Nov 7 2009, 21:54

I must say I really enjoyed "Home". Some scenes there were pretty creepy. ;)

@<hidden>

The explanation why they can't dial home is simple: Earth is too far away. The amount of energy required to dial another gate is mostly dependent on how far away it is. Most stargates are normally capable of dialling other gates within the same galaxy (max range about a hundred thousand light years). If you channel a large amount of extra power into the gate, for example with a ZPM, you can dial out to other galaxies (a couple of million light years away).

The Destiny is apparently several billion light years away from Earth. They only got there by using a special stargate that apparently sapped all the energy out of a planet to establish the connection - and destroyed the planet in the process. In order to get back, they would need huge amounts of energy that no normal stargate can provide.

Abs

Nov 7 2009, 22:04

Makes sense...I just thought that the gates on the planets might have a bit more power than the one on the ship...I didn't realize it was an already established premise. Thanks for the explanation. :)

Abs

kavoven

Nov 7 2009, 22:52

Nice episode. I like Rush now even more, I think hes the only one making the right decisions and having the right ideas. What did he say in the 6th episode?
"Always think of the greater good"

Jakerod

Nov 7 2009, 22:53

I'm really looking forward to next weeks episode. It looks awesome. I liked this one but I am not a big fan of the whole "stone" thing it is just too odd for me. Especially since that was the first time they used them for an intelligent reason. Someone mentioned on the gateworld forum that they should really have someone switch with a doctor sometime soon so that he can help TJ.

Abs

Nov 8 2009, 11:14

How do they get the video feed from billions of light years away to see who they're switching bodies with?

Abs

TimRiceSE

Nov 8 2009, 12:11

Eh... they can just look in the mirror? :S

Abs

Nov 8 2009, 12:16

But they have these video tablet type things that show them who is on the other side...or am I mistaken again?

Abs

kavoven

Nov 8 2009, 13:36

I always thought they can't see to whom they're switching to and the security camera filming style is just used for having some kind of "being observed" feeling?

Jakerod

Nov 8 2009, 13:53

How do they get the video feed from billions of light years away to see who they're switching bodies with?

Abs
They can't. They know who their switching with once they have already switched. The security camera is there to show them who they are in or to show us who they are in.

Abs

Nov 8 2009, 14:37

Seems like I misunderstood what I was seeing. Thanks again, guys.

Abs

kavoven

Nov 8 2009, 14:58

Next episodes trailer:

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That looks a bit more like Stargate in my opinion :) Classical time problem.

[DirTyDeeDs]-Ziggy-

Nov 8 2009, 15:19

Next episodes trailer:

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no html, just use url embed, and only the code after the v=
youtube]code after v=[youtube

kavoven

Nov 8 2009, 15:31

-Ziggy-;1484220']no html, just use url embed, and only the code after the v=
youtube]code after v=[youtube

Funny, the way I did it is the only working way for me...all other tries resulted in just displaying the link :confused:

Scrub

Nov 8 2009, 15:33

Works for me, thanks.

[DirTyDeeDs]-Ziggy-

Nov 8 2009, 15:42

Funny, the way I did it is the only working way for me...all other tries resulted in just displaying the link :confused:

you didn't bother to read what I wrote.

only use the code after the v=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86r_i2yf_nk

86r_i2yf_nk

[**UTUBE]86r_i2yf_nk[/**UTUBE]

either way, it worked, thanks for searching and providing the trailer, I like the show.

kavoven

Nov 8 2009, 15:47

Ah THAT v... I was searching for a v inside the html code :D

Shadow.D. ^BOB^

Nov 8 2009, 16:05

Did you see that thing going into Cloes chest? on the trailer. Its actually starting to get more into the story now, rather than just lets get the ship working and character development. Btw did anyone else see the Young/TJ relationship when the series began, pretty obvious really. Oh and Telford is a right devious little git isnt he ;)

kavoven

Nov 8 2009, 16:09

Looks a bit like some relative of the Goa'uld

Nov 8 2009, 19:44

I enjoyed the futurama references, but thats just cause I'm a nerd :D

Jakerod

Nov 14 2009, 03:25

Time
Loved it! One of the best episodes I think.

Canukausiuka

Nov 14 2009, 14:38

This episode felt a lot more like Stargate than the others have. About halfway through I called the ending though. Definitely a good episode. :)

kavoven

Nov 14 2009, 15:48

Right...

Shame that Cloe didn't die, I don't like her at all...

Going back in time twice is a bit strange. And do they really go back in time or do they just create an parallel universe? So there are already two SG:U crews who died in a cruel way?:confused:

I'm not that very much a friend of such episodes...there where quite some during Atlantis and they always kept my brain busy since I think moving back and forth in time like this is more complex than displayed in SG.

Abs

Nov 16 2009, 23:47

For this not to be resolved felt like a bit of a cop out. You know they're all going to come back to life.

Abs

Jakerod

Nov 17 2009, 04:23

For this not to be resolved felt like a bit of a cop out. You know they're all going to come back to life.

Abs
It is resolved its just they didn't want to make you go through the same thing the third time.

MadDogX

Nov 17 2009, 06:20

I actually loved the ending of the episode. It's pretty clear what's going to happen, so why show it? This way they had more time for the "main" events.

Yeah the whole time travel thing is always a bit of a cop-out, but it's a great way to have an unusual storyline, especially with main characters getting "killed off". They still did a great job creating suspense, because the viewer was led to expect that after watching the video of what happened before, they would find a cure and all would be well. So when people started dying again, I had a few moments of "OMG holy crap!". It was definitely entertaining, so I can live with the cop-out.

kavoven

Nov 17 2009, 17:28

Yeah the whole time travel thing is always a bit of a cop-out, but it's a great way to have an unusual storyline, especially with main characters getting "killed off". They still did a great job creating suspense, because the viewer was led to expect that after watching the video of what happened before, they would find a cure and all would be well. So when people started dying again, I had a few moments of "OMG holy crap!". It was definitely entertaining, so I can live with the cop-out.

I actually believed Zoes death, but the death of Young made clear that things wouldn't stay that way!

Commando84

Nov 17 2009, 19:03

Pretty good that they run with the same explanation how to do time travel with a stargate similar like in SG-1 about the solar flare, i've just watched all season 2 now and soon starting season 3 :)

kavoven

Nov 17 2009, 19:04

Dwarden

Nov 17 2009, 23:20

atm only 2 or 3 episodes were watchable rest is very poorly script ...
(telenovel like switches to earth or history of members)

Jakerod

Nov 17 2009, 23:23

One of the last episodes of SG:A season 4 was similar to this one. Shepard went through a solar flare and arrived some thousand years in the future, with a holo McCay waiting for him to fix everything =)
That is one of my favorite Stargate episodes. I really just liked how McKay was explaining to him how everything played out.

kavoven

Nov 21 2009, 07:27

Now that was a boring episode...I'm reeeaaallyy not interested in all that personal individual stories and they keep coming up with them all the time.

They should call it Dramagate or something...

Darkhorse 1-6

Nov 21 2009, 07:54

It appears this is what is in store for us.

Next Friday: The crew finds a device that may hold the promise of getting them home. Lt. Scott and Camille visit their loved ones using the communication stones.

A week later: Colonel Young cedes command of the ship after he is implicated in the murder of a crew member.

(3 Episodes I know nothing about)

4 weeks after that: The episode focuses on Rush, who risks his life in an experiment involving the ship's computer, and flashes back to the time when he was recruited into the Stargate Program. His now dead wife, Gloria Rush, will appear in these flashbacks, as will Michael Shanks as Daniel Jackson. This episode was originally entitled "Lucid".

A week after "Lucid" aka "Human": Greer is trapped in some rubble on a planet and left for dead, and the ordeal brings back memories of his abusive father and loving mother

kavoven

Nov 21 2009, 08:06

You can fill in some more gaps by visiting wikipedia...

http://stargate.mgm.com/view/character/171/index.html

Little webepisode showing the ship.

schaefsky

Nov 24 2009, 00:28

Sorry, did not read the whole thread, but one thing that stuck to my mind:
So Chloe is making out with Lieutenant Scott. At the same time Eli is following her like a dog (as someone here put it), and she is not exactly disliking it, I'd say.
Then Choe gets back to Earth (episode 4 or 5 or something), and makes a scene that her best friend is making out with her boyfriend.
Anyone got the moral of that ? ;)

Abs

Nov 24 2009, 01:08

kavoven

Nov 24 2009, 06:48

Thats one of the most discussed questions in the moment...This guy(producer or something) (http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/) had to defend Cloes actions quite often...

Bulldogs

Nov 24 2009, 11:11

The more I watch it the more this show seems like a soap opera pitched to Sci-Fi fans. It's kinda like making an arcade shooter for mil-sim fans, and we all know how well that go's.

Canukausiuka

Nov 25 2009, 03:34

Yeah, my wife is a fan of the more traditional Stargate. I'm hoping they eventually get to a point with this series. As it is right now, Bulldogs is right... the drama I could do with less of. Guess that's what some people want, but it is making the series feel awfully slow compared to the old series.

[DirTyDeeDs]-Ziggy-

Nov 25 2009, 05:14

So Chloe is making out with Lieutenant Scott. At the same time Eli is following her like a dog (as someone here put it), and she is not exactly disliking it, I'd say.
Then Choe gets back to Earth (episode 4 or 5 or something), and makes a scene that her best friend is making out with her boyfriend.
Anyone got the moral of that ? ;)

I like whores! :rolleyes:

Darkhorse 1-6

Nov 25 2009, 23:16

-Ziggy-;1497428']I like whores! :rolleyes:

I'll admit that's somewhat odd but remember! Whores can be acceptable.(Maybe not on Stargate but then I look back at the original and change my mind) BUT only if they know how to kill, use their skills often, and generally kick some ass.

Nov 26 2009, 06:58

MadDogX

Nov 26 2009, 07:08

Is it just me, or did we not find out how they survived the whole solar flare/bugs killing everyone/poision in the water thing?

Last we got was Scott sending the kino through the gate (a 3rd time) and then bam, new episode is all about drama and a chair... Wat?
Yeah, that was kind of weird. I was hoping for at least a passing reference to how they got out of that one but... nada.

Abs

Nov 26 2009, 07:23

Yea, I had mentioned that it was unresolved, but someone said that it was so I thought I misunderstood. Glad I'm not the only one.

The best explanation that I can come up with is "alternate timeline"?

An even more likely explanation is that this episode may have been filmed first, and they're being shown out of order, since most episodes don't even seem to tie into each other anyway.

Abs

MadDogX

Nov 26 2009, 08:00

The best explanation that I can come up with is "alternate timeline"?Nah, I don't think so. It's possible that they managed to capture the alien chestburster things and create a vaccine, allowing them to drink the water despite the presence of those bacteria.

An even more likely explanation is that this episode may have been filmed first, and they're being shown out of order, since most episodes don't even seem to tie into each other anyway.
Yeah, that sounds more likely. It wouldn't be the first time that a series gets aired out of order (Firefly, anyone?).

kavoven

Nov 26 2009, 14:07

Its explained in one of the Kino Web Episodes...they used the information given to them after the second time the whole expedition died and where able to fix everything in time.

Bulldogs

Nov 27 2009, 03:01

I'll admit that's somewhat odd but remember! Whores can be acceptable.(Maybe not on Stargate but then I look back at the original and change my mind) BUT only if they know how to kill, use their skills often, and generally kick some ass.

Vala Mal Doran....

The point with not showing what happened next in the infected water supply killing everyone time travel episode is that it was meant to be a given that he sent the kino back in time and with that information they knew what they had to do to save everyone. Showing what happened would have been a waste of time.... then again, the pace the series has been going I'm sure they're not too worried about wasting time.

kavoven

Nov 29 2009, 13:29

Can someone tell me what happend to this weeks episode?

Pathy

Nov 29 2009, 14:53

Nothing. It doesn't air till the 3rd IIRC - something to do with the Americans and Thanksgiving.

kavoven

Dec 6 2009, 09:15

God damn, those producers are sooooo stupid.

Rush was the only character I liked...and after Young getting suspended and that IOA (or however you call it) Lady took controll, I was happy about at least someone making decisions...
I know that there'll be the big return of Rush because he finds out how to fly that alien ship, but still! Stupid!!!

Edit
Ahhhhh and the next episode is in APRIL. That really sucks! :(

Pathy

Dec 6 2009, 10:45

Meh, I like it. Thought it was great.

I guess you do really too, if you're complaining about how far the next episode is off. :)

Jakerod

Dec 6 2009, 13:08

I thought it was a good episode. Especially the ending. Too bad we have to wait so long.

Shadow.D. ^BOB^

Dec 6 2009, 18:16

Not a bad episode, will be interesting to see what happens next. The obvious is Rush repairs the ship and somehow gets back to destiny (hopefully with some alien help).

Dec 6 2009, 18:18

whoever came up with the idea of a mid-season hiatus is a PR genious. Gets everyone raged up about it, and raged up people talk about things. Same way the media blows everything out of proportion these days.

Still, episode was good, be interesting to see what happens in future episodes about decision making and whatnot.

Pathy

Dec 6 2009, 18:28

Not a bad episode, will be interesting to see what happens next. The obvious is Rush repairs the ship and somehow gets back to destiny (hopefully with some alien help).

My bet is

he uses the ship as an additional power source, and manually dials the gate back to the Destiny.

Dwarden

Dec 6 2009, 18:55

or he flies the ship and we see him sometime in future ...
anyway it was stupid leave him on planet with any advanced technology

kavoven

Dec 6 2009, 18:58

I guess he flies the ship, contacts the alien species and somehow meets his people on another planet.

Bulldogs

Dec 6 2009, 19:11

With this episode, I think that makes about 2 episodes so far in the series that are worth watching.

It shows signs of life but I really can't see the series lasting much longer the way it's been going.

Although, there's an idea. Maybe he gets the ship up and running, hunts down Destiny and blows it to pieces. Show finished.

MadDogX

Dec 7 2009, 08:18

My bet is

he uses the ship as an additional power source, and manually dials the gate back to the Destiny.
Actually that's not very far fetched.

I mean, from what I understand, the only reason that dialling Destiny from the Milky Way requires huge amounts of power is that the ship is so far away. The planet where Rush is marooned is obviously much closer, so dialling back to Destiny from there should require a lot less power. Rush just needs to jury rig a power source from the alien ship with the gate on the planet.

I expect there will be a future episode that starts with Destiny dropping out of FTL, the gate is dialled from the outside and Rush casually steps through.

*Everyone gawps*

Rush says "Hello :)".

*Cut to intro*

:D

Abs

Dec 7 2009, 23:46

That was a pretty damned good episode. I'm glad Rush was left behind.

It's a shame that the Olympics had to get in the way.

Abs

bhaz

Dec 17 2009, 00:32

Starting to lose faith in this series, especially if they don't at least add a little action, it's like a sci-fi soap opera at the moment. Problem is I can't stop watching.

edit: Though the next ep doesn't air until April next year, so I have no idea why I just bumped this thread.

Pauld

Dec 17 2009, 00:35

I do agree with you there bhaz ive kept up with the series and im hoping too that it picks up alittle, they have to much diary episodes and not enough :coop:

well im looking forward to after the christmas break

MadDogX

Dec 17 2009, 09:36

Don't judge the series too quickly. They are doing an excellent job of building up the characters and creating a believable premise (within the Stargate franchise that is). I enjoy the fact that the series could still go absolutely anywhere from here without losing any of the character it has already built up. Personally, I'm finding the series more enjoyable than the later seasons of SG-1 and Atlantis, simply because it's still wide open and not constantly focussed on some evil aliens that are totally plotting to destroi teh wurldz! That just got old after a while.

Bulldogs

Dec 17 2009, 18:59

This series breaks one of the major tenants of writing. Always try to captivate your audience first. Having 9-10 epsodes as an introduction without mixing in a little something to overwhelm the audience makes it a little underwhelming.

The series seems to want to try something new, but it's like it's using the focus that it has a strong fan base to allow it slack enough to not put the effort into pleasing the fans.

I admire the artistic move, but telling people to stare at a painting until they see something they like in it is probably not going to work for too long.

Bulldogs

Dec 18 2009, 02:03

BTW, don't look at the episode list on wikipedia, it pretty much gives a lot away.

MadDogX

Dec 18 2009, 06:28

I guess it's really a matter of taste. I've been thouroughly enjoying the series so far, even my girlfriend (who didn't like SG-1 or Atlantis at all) watches it with me and is pissed off that the series won't be continuing until next year. Especially after the cliffhanger in the last episode, you can safely say we're "captivated", despite the lack of evil aliens and awesome space battles.

It's really down to whether or not you can accept the fact that the series is whole different animal in the Stargate franchise, instead of just "more of the same". I mean, we've been watching SG teams blow the shit out of generic evil aliens for the past twelve years. I'm happy about the change of pace. ;)

Pauld

Jan 8 2010, 11:46

i bumped this thread as it was on page 3 and a reminder to everyone the series starts up again very soon in the uk

MadDogX

Jan 8 2010, 12:01

i bumped this thread as it was on page 3 and a reminder to everyone the series starts up again very soon in the uk
I thought the series doesn't return until April 2nd? Or do you mean reruns?

Pauld

Jan 8 2010, 12:03

ahh maybe thats what i heard then well maybe i can watch them again and catch up on anything i missed out

Abs

Apr 4 2010, 22:11

Well, it's back!

I was hoping Rush would be gone for longer.

These new aliens also don't seem to be that strong, since Rush could easily take one of them down. I wonder if they'll be a major enemy in the series. I'm also wondering how they found Destiny so quickly. I mean, since the ship jumps so every often, how could you possibly track it down?

Abs

TeRp

Apr 4 2010, 22:45

Jakerod

Apr 5 2010, 04:36

Yeah, Rush could have been gone a bit longer.
I don't like the conspiracy story line that now is bound to happen.

Even though the aliens don't seem that strong yet, I guess they are going to be the mayor enemy of the crew for at least this season. What SGU misses is exactly a foe like the Goa'Uld were to Earth and the Wraith were to Atlantis. The whole "omgosh we're stranded on a space ship"-storyline with all the crew's personal problems might be quite amusing for a few episodes, but if I want a show about that I can just watch any daily soap. ;)
The producers and/or writers of SGU said they didn't want to have a consistent threat like the Goa'uld or the Wraith. I imagine that the guys will show up from time to time but probably not as frequently as the other two.

I thought the episode was pretty good on a whole. Chloe and the airman were kind of dumb at that one point.

MadDogX

Apr 5 2010, 04:46

The aliens were probably able to find Destiny so quickly because they had Rush and were probing his mind. Remember that Rush found a kind of star map a few episodes ago and was able to tell where Destiny was going - so the aliens could have used that information to track them down. (Or maybe they've been tracking Destiny since before the expedition team even got there...)

I too was hoping Rush would be gone for a few more episodes, and also that his return would have a bit more style, but whatever. At least the aliens were refreshingly non-humanoid and we now finally have a kind of villain.

Abs

Apr 5 2010, 13:05

Jakerod

Apr 5 2010, 16:52

kavoven

Apr 6 2010, 14:39

Since Rush is my favorite character I'm happy that he's back, but a more spectacular return would have been nice :)

Still this episode was really good and there was a fair amount of trailer scenes in it. I didn't expect that :)

Sennacherib

Apr 6 2010, 16:10

very good episode, i like the characters darkness, a great new feature finally in the SG world

Apr 6 2010, 19:16

holy blue aliens batman... A little underwhelmed by Destiny's "main weapon" seems like a whole lot of gun for not much bang...

MadDogX

Apr 6 2010, 22:33

Also if you think about it, at the end of one of the earlier episode there is a ship that leaves the Destiny that looks a lot like one of the alien fighter/transports. Perhaps they put a tracking beacon on it.
Holy shit... I just checked out that scene again (at the end of episode 3) and you're absolutely right - it is one of the alien ships :eek:! There can be no doubt - the designs are 100% identical. So I guess that proves it: the aliens have been tracking Destiny for a while.

Now the question is: why weren't they able to take it over in the first place?

Bulldogs

Apr 7 2010, 00:33

Holy shit... I just checked out that scene again (at the end of episode 3) and you're absolutely right - it is one of the alien ships :eek:! There can be no doubt - the designs are 100% identical. So I guess that proves it: the aliens have been tracking Destiny for a while.

Now the question is: why weren't they able to take it over in the first place?

'Cause they don't have the ancient gene to operate the ship. I think that's also why they kidnapped Rush and what'sherface, to learn how to use the ancient gene.

MadDogX

Apr 7 2010, 06:03

'Cause they don't have the ancient gene to operate the ship. I think that's also why they kidnapped Rush and what'sherface, to learn how to use the ancient gene.
That was my first thought too, but I remember Rush saying something about Destiny being so old that it doesn't have the ancient gene requirement to operate it. Just did a quick Google search and found the Ancient Gene page (http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_Technology_Activation_gene) on the Stargate wiki. Scroll down to the "Trivia" section and you'll see it.

According to Dr. Nicholas Rush the Ancient starship Destiny (http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Destiny) predates the necessity of the ATA Gene. (SGU (http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Stargate_Universe): "Darkness (http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Darkness)")

So it must be something else.

kavoven

Apr 7 2010, 15:35

Perhaps they're simply lacking the knowledge of how to read ancient. On the other hand that doesn't explain how rush activated the alien ship that fast. I read in the internet that there won't be any other clarifications how he did that

Edit
Source:
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2010/04/06/april-6-2010-sgu-production-update/

Kymm writes: “I must be missing something, so I am going to ask a stupid question (be kind) – since the alien ship can track Destiny through hyper space (they were attached to the ship in Air and have located them again in Space). We have found out that the aliens want the ship. Why did they not just take it before the Earth people boarded it?”

Answer: We don’t know for sure, but it would seem they haven’t been able to board Destiny (although the pod that flew away at the end of Air III would seem to indicate they’ve been keeping tabs on the ship for some time now). As I mentioned in yesterday’s mailbag, prior to our coming aboard, all of the ship’s energy was used for its automated defenses – and, specifically, ensuring the ship’s shield remains strong and impenetrable. Since we came aboard, however, the ship’s power has been diverted to other areas like life support and weapons, diverting power away from the shields, weakening them, and making them more vulnerable in certain areas (which is what we saw happen in Space).

Kymm also writes: “OR when they caught them in Space episode why didn’t the small ships all clamp on and have boarding parties take over the ship.”

Answer: That may well have been the plan. Or, maybe, they had another as-yet-to-be-revealed plan in the works.

Can't we agree on leaving the spoiler tags ? =)

Abs

Apr 11 2010, 03:24

Jakerod

Apr 11 2010, 05:04

New episode! I liked this one quite a bit.

...though it doesn't quite feel like Stargate anymore...what, without the use of the, uhm, Stargates. Ever.

I do like the way that the power struggle is now taking place in a more confrontational manner. Enough of this petty political crap. I wonder if Young will do anything against the leaders of the mutiny.

Abs
I thought it was good too.

Spoiler if you haven't seen the preview/ad for the next episode:
It seems that in the next episode they use the Gate. I suppose the shuttle might be involved instead but I thought they were on a planet of some kind and that might mean the gate.

MadDogX

Apr 11 2010, 13:38

I don't think it's absolutely necessary that they use the gate in every single episode, or even in the majority of episodes. We're way beyond the time when the gate itself was the really interesting thing - that was perhaps the first two or three seasons of SG-1. If they still insisted on keeping the focus on the gate now, more than ten years later, it would just get gimmicky. The show is evolving, which is not a bad thing. ;)

As for the latest episode, I thought it was a step in the right direction. They've definitely picked up the pace of the show and started mixing the drama with more action, which seems to work quite well. I just hope they manage to keep it this interesting.

I actually read somewhere that the second season is already confirmed, so we've got at least another 1.5 years of Stargate ahead of us. Yay! :D

kavoven

Apr 11 2010, 17:34

Good episode and I'm interested in the next one. Though I expected the civilians to show more resistance. Since I'm always siding with Rush I really hope Young will be taken out of command.

Abs

Apr 11 2010, 21:05

Rush started it all the problems. He's a jerk. :p I bet if you were on the ship he'd put you in the chair.

Abs

Apr 12 2010, 06:47

Rush started it all the problems. He's a jerk.

Have to agree.

Science needs to be done and all, but theres no need to be an asshat about it.

MadDogX

Apr 12 2010, 13:05

Rush isn't just the source of the problems, he's the reason they're even there. He's the one who stopped the dial process to Earth when they were evacuating Icarus base, and dialled the 9th chevron address instead. It was basically his obsession that got everyone stranded. It's also pretty clear that he doesn't want to go back to Earth, so he's not even trying to find a way. Destiny is his baby, there's nothing for him to do back home.

kavoven

Apr 12 2010, 18:55

Jakerod

Apr 12 2010, 18:59

First - all expeditions need sacrifices. You won't progress without.
Second - Like Rush said, dialing Earth might have caused damage on Earth with the explosion of the whole Planet going through. Plus they would have lost all the progress they made with the 9th chevron. People don't want to be on the expedition? Fine, don't join the Stargate Center. I mean, the whole point of it IS exploring new worlds!
First: Not entirely true, there is danger but going through a gate when you have no idea what is on the other side is stupidity.
Second: They didn't have to dial Earth, there are 100s, 1000s, or even 1000000s of other stargates to dial. Or they could've just fought their way to open ground and beamed up.

When you join the SGC, there is a certain expectation of people's responsibility to not get you killed.

One of the things that I hate is that the Airmen all seem to be pretty damn stupid. Like the one in the episode two weeks ago who just kind of stood there with the yellow glowing thing and didn't even call anyone about it until it was all done with.

MadDogX

Apr 12 2010, 19:56

I agree with Jakerod. They could have gone anywhere else in the galaxy. Rush's explanation about the blast coming through the wormhole was just a weak excuse to justify going through to the expedition site. Even Young called him out on it. Dialling the 9th chevron was nothing but a selfish decision made by a guy who didn't want to give up on his lifes work.

Abs

Apr 12 2010, 20:38

Thankfully, it's just a show. ;)

Abs

MadDogX

Apr 12 2010, 20:52

Thankfully, it's just a show. ;)

Abs
That doesn't mean we can't dish out some love/hate on the characters. ;)

Apr 13 2010, 06:52

http://www.reallifecomics.com/comics/2010/20100412_2434.png

I lol'd

MadDogX

Apr 13 2010, 07:08

Hehe, so true. :D

Abs

Apr 13 2010, 11:49

Hahah! That was funny. :D Thanks for sharing.

Abs

Jakerod

Apr 13 2010, 13:32

That was good. Two of my favorite sci-fi shows.

Infam0us

Apr 14 2010, 17:38

Great show thats finally starting to kick off after the mid season break :)

Jakerod

Apr 17 2010, 03:24

I don't know if it has aired everywhere yet but I thought tonight's episode was quite awesome.

Pauld

Apr 17 2010, 10:56

We get it on tuesdays in england :/

Serclaes

Apr 17 2010, 13:45

MadDogX

Apr 17 2010, 14:07

Rush is not very high in my esteem since the first episode. I dislike most that he has no interest in going back to earth and leaves the others at his mercy without any clue that he's not "sciencing" for their return.
I also would have expected a better job from young at finishing him. I mean seriously. A planet with a space ship and rush ought to mean that rush will come back.
I don't think it was really Youngs intention to "finish" him. Remember what he said after the first punch on that desert planet: "Are we finished?". It sounded to me like he wanted to try and put everything behind them. It was rush who said it would "never be finished" and attacked Young again. I guess when Young knocked Rush out cold, leaving him behind was kind of a "spur of the moment" thing.

As for the recent episode:
I liked it, although it was rather disappointing that we didn't find out how, why and by whom that solar system was created. It seems a bit odd for a star and a planet to just appear out of nowhere.

Apr 17 2010, 20:36

Abs

Apr 17 2010, 22:39

Pretty good episode

@<hidden>: be interesting to see if we ever go back to the group left on the planet. I'm hopeful we might, although that it was only minor characters left behind suggests we wont. Ever hopeful it'll be part of a story arc which returns at some point...

Was there a group left on the planet? I mean, Zoee was pretty bent on staying, but she came back and she's not military.

Abs

kavoven

Apr 17 2010, 22:50

Boring Episode

I'm still defending Rush and again - if you're not willing to do this kind of exploration, don't join the Stargate program. Kinda ridiculous how they're all crying for their homes...

Darkhorse 1-6

Apr 17 2010, 22:50

http://www.reallifecomics.com/comics/2010/20100412_2434.png

I lol'd

Best comic ever. Thank you for that!

Jakerod

Apr 18 2010, 04:40

Was there a group left on the planet? I mean, Zoee was pretty bent on staying, but she came back and she's not military.

Abs
I got the impression that people stayed. Chloe came back because Scott did I think. They really didn't do a great job of showing whether or not people stayed. People over at the Gateworld forum are somewhat confused too.

MadDogX

Apr 18 2010, 08:32

I got the impression that people stayed. Chloe came back because Scott did I think. They really didn't do a great job of showing whether or not people stayed. People over at the Gateworld forum are somewhat confused too.
At least that one guy who was talking about the planet being a "sign" seems to have stayed. Can't remember what he was called but I definitely didn't see him after they got back to the ship.

Apart from those people, I'm also hoping that we'll find out what happened to the two who went through to the unknown planet in the second or third episode.

kavoven

Apr 24 2010, 08:31

What a suprising ending... didn't expect that =)

I hope they won't make the same one episode return like Rush

Shadow.D. ^BOB^

Apr 24 2010, 10:59

Yeah i agree, it would be a cop out if Rush "figured" it all out by the next episode. Be interesting to see where they go from this though...

Jakerod

Apr 24 2010, 15:30

I'm expecting them to be back by the end of next episode. I was a bit surprised by the ending though.

Abs

Apr 24 2010, 17:46

I know they can't dial back to Earth because of power restrictions, but couldn't they just dial back to the planet they just left? It's not as far, and shouldn't be too hard to do.

Overall, a good episode. I wish they went into the sargeant's history a bit more.

Abs

kavoven

Apr 24 2010, 18:18

Abs

Apr 24 2010, 19:52

I think this topic has been discussed before but I can't remember the answer :D It somehow looks like the ship is dialing the gates. I guess they don't have the adresses of the gates in the current galaxy.

True...but if Rush breaks the code and gains access to the ship, then he can dial the gate. I mean, when the ship stops don't they see what symbols are being dialed by the ship anyway? I just hope they're smart enough to write them down somewhere.

Abs

Jakerod

Apr 24 2010, 20:01

MadDogX

Apr 25 2010, 06:46

Another possibility is that on each jump they leave that sad galaxy meaning you can't dial back into the old galaxy. That would mean they are traveling quite fast though so I doubt it. Or it could have something to do with Destiny's gate having a more limited range than that of the milky way or pegasus gates.
The producers of the show have hinted that Destiny will be "in a different galaxy every season", meaning that all current episodes are taking place in the same galaxy. It really does seem like Destiny's gate has a very limited range compared to the previous shows. I wonder if this will ever be explained.

As for the latest episode - I thoroughly enjoyed it. :D

TeRp

Apr 25 2010, 14:10

Good episode.
Hated the violin music though, it was frickin loud.

kavoven

Apr 25 2010, 16:20

Good questions, I'm a little confused now...:confused:

kavoven

Apr 28 2010, 20:35

From:
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/april-26-2010-its-an-all-mailbag-blog-entry/

will13 writes: “Why planets in episodes “Time” and “Justice” have the same gate address?!”

Answer: May have been a mix-up in the Art Department packages.

Looks like they know the gate adress. So I don't know where the dialing problem is...

Jakerod

Apr 28 2010, 20:38

From:
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/april-26-2010-its-an-all-mailbag-blog-entry/

Looks like they know the gate adress. So I don't know where the dialing problem is...
Well most of the time they are in FTL and when they are in FTL they can't dial. When they come out of FTL the Destiny normally automatically dials or they have a planet in range that they dial. I am thinking that the range must be smaller than the normal gates. Or else there is nothing holding them back. They normally do say things like "There are four planets with gates in range" and stuff like that.

kavoven

Apr 28 2010, 20:46

Mhm possible, but they need the Stargate to get back to Earth and there are no dialing devices on the planets they visit. But during the first episodes they say the reason why they can't get back to Earth is because of the amount of enery requiered. So they must somehow get pass that "immediate dialing process"

Oh and second thought - the ship doesn't dial during the refueling process. Plus, those guys in the... forth episode where able to dial the other "you wont return from there" gate.

Only reason left is limited range and thats a bit weired...

Nice find:

Answer: Since the fate of a third season will rest on the ratings of those first ten episodes of season two, I’ll save my worrying for the fall.

Edit

I think the Energy used for the gate connection must be from Destiny itself. So its simply a matter of energy...

Jakerod

May 1 2010, 02:23

Stargate Resistance (http://www.stargateresistance.com/)
I just wanted to inform you guys that Stargate: Resistance has a free weekend of play this weekend. Obviously its a Stargate game. I believe its a 3rd person shooter. Its kind of a small game but its free this weekend so if you guys have time you might want to check it out.

kavoven

May 1 2010, 08:48

Yesterdays episode explains the gate problem. :) Just watching it, looks promising!

Wow, really interesting. Finally some real Stargate episode :) Wondering how the whole story will turn out!

Abs

May 3 2010, 03:17

OH MY GOD! My favourite episode by FAR.

I don't know if I should jope for the best, or think that they're done for.

Abs

MadDogX

May 3 2010, 06:38

OH MY GOD! My favourite episode by FAR.
Same here. It was awesome on a number of levels, and the end was a real surprise. Also a lot of stuff was explained, like the limited range of the old gates.

I don't know if I should jope for the best, or think that they're done for.
There are still five episodes left in this season, so anything could happen. Going by the quality of recent episodes, I'd say the show is definitely heading in the right direction. :D

Abs

May 3 2010, 15:42

Same here. It was awesome on a number of levels, and the end was a real surprise. Also a lot of stuff was explained, like the limited range of the old gates.

Yea, it's like they realized "Wait...everyone's going to have this big 'WTF' moment after the last episode, so we better talk about it first thing." lol

My guess is that the aliens will find the stranded crew somehow and end up following Destiny.

Abs

maionaze

May 7 2010, 12:05

The last episode was nice .

My theory : They will get saved by the aliens that want destiny or by the ones who created that planet

Andersson[SWEC]

May 7 2010, 13:38

Eagerly waiting for the next one tonight...
Although im in Sweden so ill have to wait till tomorrow..LOL

kavoven

May 7 2010, 15:43

Though I'm still watching it in English (German voices are horrible!!!!!) the episodes shown in German TV are by now only one episode behind those in the US...

New episode tomorrow :yay:

kavoven

May 9 2010, 15:41

Riiiiggghht...

:confused:

First - did they cut the budget for SG episodes? I mean in earlier ones the aliens would have entered the ship before McCay found some weired solution how to fix the hyperdrive.

What happend to the team? Why did they... just return? I mean, thats the most boring and stupid solution of a problem of that kind ever!

I really hope they clarify some things in the next one...

Berghoff

May 9 2010, 16:06

Yea gotta agree the previous episode was much better.

Basically a WTF moment right there, they are out of dail range and then a wormhole opens so they can reach Destiny? I thought it was going to take a few episodes to figure out how they were going to get back but OK.

kavoven

May 9 2010, 20:07

What I'm wondering, too. How can the gate on the ship dial anyway? I remember some discussions about that during Atlantis and they said everytime that its very difficult to use a non-static gate.

Jakerod

May 10 2010, 01:59

What I'm wondering, too. How can the gate on the ship dial anyway? I remember some discussions about that during Atlantis and they said everytime that its very difficult to use a non-static gate.
The way it worked was this. The Destiny was not out of range to dial the gate. Eli couldn't dial it because it went into FTL not because it was out of range. When it was forced out he was able to dial it again. That did seem kind of anti-climatic though. Keep it mind while on Atlantis it might have been hard to dial a static gate, this gate was different and was always meant to be a gate that moved around while the rest were supposed to be static.

Abs

May 10 2010, 02:31

"Hey everyone! High fives all around! Where the hell were ya? Missed you guys!"

"How'd you get back?"

"Wasn't it you?"

"Nope. I thought you did it."

"Nope wasn't me. We had left you for dead."

"Oh well...who cares? We're back now, that's all that matters."

Garbage!!! I hated that moment. And Rush was all like...

"Relax dudes, it's the team coming back. Science tells me so."

Maybe it was the aliens that killed the team, and now have a remote. Didn't think of that, didja Rush?!?

Sorry. Didn't like that episode much.

Abs

MadDogX

May 10 2010, 09:01

Not a good episode. :(

As peeps have said above, what was with the sudden and painfully anticlimactic reappearance of the lost guys? That just felt like a gigantic cop-out to me. Was anyone else getting really excited about what was going to happen to them? I for one was expecting some freaking epic Stargatey journey, lasting at least until the end of the season (which isn't far off). Instead we get this: "Oh hey, you remember those guys we totally unexpectedly left behind while Destiny zooms off into the unknown? Expecting some cool shit to happen? Fuck that! They're back now."

I wonder what the hell the series producers were thinking. Actually leaving main characters behind to fend for themselves was probably the most interesting thing that happened so far. Bringing them back so soon without any real explanation just isn't very satisfying from a dramatic point of view. Oh, and I don't think there has been any good explanation so far as to how they were able to dial back to Destiny.

The way it worked was this. The Destiny was not out of range to dial the gate. Eli couldn't dial it because it went into FTL not because it was out of range. When it was forced out he was able to dial it again.
Doesn't correspond with the facts, methinks. Remember the previous episode, where they were stuck in that underground crypt? How long were they there, a day at most? And Destiny had already moved so far ahead that the rescue teams had to move 10+ gate jumps back in order to get Greer.

Now think about what Eli said after they got back to Destiny: they were stuck on that planet for two days while Destiny was moving away, presumably at their usual speed. Also, outside shots in this episode show Destiny was clearly waaay outside the galaxy.

Something just doesn't add up here.

I'm just hoping that their sudden reappearance aboard Destiny isn't as casual as it seems. Maybe they were captured by the aliens and brainwashed/cloned/whatever. Remember how Eli reacted when Young wanted to send a team back to the planet? "Oh, there's nothing interesting there", etc. He was obviously trying to discourage him. And then the fact that there were alien ships waiting at the planet, mere hours after the lost three got back. They must have just missed them. Isn't that convenient.

kavoven

May 11 2010, 07:34

Totally agreed, MadDog...

I just scanned the producers blog for some answers but nothing there... I'm still hoping there will be a better explanation!

Abs

May 15 2010, 12:03

So in this episode they had alien lice. Nice...

Abs

kavoven

May 15 2010, 13:29

Wasn't exactly one of the best episodes...:j:

Jakerod

May 15 2010, 21:15

I enjoyed it. I didn't think it was great but I did like it. I can't wait for next weeks episode though.

MadDogX

May 16 2010, 11:06

Another weak episode, in my opinion.

The only real excitement was the freaky hostage situation at the end. You could really see how Greer would have shot Rae if Rush hadn't intervened. Otherwise it was all quite predictable and straightforward. Meh. :rolleyes:
So, only three more episodes to go this season. Seems that they should be somewhat more exciting though, judging by the descriptions. :)

mikebart

May 16 2010, 12:46

kavoven

May 16 2010, 17:00

Wonderd about that, too. Perhaps they already reached the next galaxy?

ProfTournesol

May 16 2010, 18:28

My god, it's so boring :sleep:, i'm only watching because i'm a big fan of the previous series.

Abs

May 16 2010, 22:02

Im confused, I thought the ship was between galaxy's, meaning they wouldnt be coming within range of another planet/stargate for quite a while. So how come at the end of this one they find a planet?
maybe i missed something, please explain.

Well, I'm assuming that there's no set timeline. A week between shows doesn't mean that a week passed for the crew.

Also, we don't know how far away the next galaxy was. I've seen pictures of colliding galaxies, so perhaps the next one is relatively close.

Abs

Jakerod

May 16 2010, 23:50

From what I understand, the ship had already crossed the void and they had already visited at least one planet (with the ticks). I do think that some indication of this should've been given at the beginning of the episode though.

kavoven

May 17 2010, 10:19

MadDogX

May 17 2010, 10:37

I thought they got them on the the planet where they got lost?
I was thinking that too, but at the end of the episode, when they dropped out of FTL and were connected to a stargate, there was no "weyhey, we've reached another galaxy!"... so I guess they're already there. The SGU producers seem to like skipping over certain plot points and just let the fans figure it out for themselves. Not necessarily a bad thing (like the ending of the time travel episode, which I loved) but it can be confusing.

Infam0us

May 18 2010, 12:49

It puzzled me till I went on Gateworld. Apparently because they were stuck halfway between the galaxies they could still gate to the ship. Eli says that after waiting a day the ship came back up on his computer so they could gate back to it. But I agree some of the plot is a bit unexplained at times! Its still quite good though I think :)

Pauld

May 18 2010, 22:14

Is it true that russian TV has aired all of season 1 already?

Jakerod

May 18 2010, 23:57

Is it true that russian TV has aired all of season 1 already?
I heard it was the Ukraine.

Infam0us

May 19 2010, 09:37

Is it true that russian TV has aired all of season 1 already?

Where'd you hear this? US has first dibs on it because Syfy is an American channel, so there a week ahead of the rest of us.

Pauld

May 19 2010, 10:54

i tried to find the sgu trailer to show a friend and come across a leaked trailer for the season finale, i know i shouldnt of watched but i couldnt resist the temptation, the video was all in russian and someone mentioned that russia or ukraine have already finished watching this season

dvdking44

May 21 2010, 20:07

they are on piarte bay i have them all in russion tho from a ukrane chanel

Infam0us

May 21 2010, 20:35

kavoven

May 21 2010, 21:17

Thanks for the hint... I had to search a bit but the trailer looked interesting.

OT

Started watching SG:A again..its just so much better...:rolleyes:

Infam0us

May 21 2010, 21:38

Thanks for the hint... I had to search a bit but the trailer looked interesting.

OT

Started watching SG:A again..its just so much better...:rolleyes:

They're different types of shows. Universe is much darker and psychological than SGA and SG1 ever were.

kavoven

May 22 2010, 09:08

Universe just isn't Stargate in my opinion.

I liked todays episode, was really exciting at some points :)

Abs

May 22 2010, 11:33

Yes indeed. Based on how good it was, I thought this was the season finale. I'm glad to see we have two more episodes. :)

Abs

Infam0us

May 22 2010, 11:51

Its gonna get good! Hopefully we don't have to wait to long for the start of season 2 :)

Pauld

May 22 2010, 12:05

So who is your favourite charactor from the season so far.

Mine has too greer he is just awesome i liked his charactor from the beginning

Infam0us

May 22 2010, 13:13

So who is your favourite charactor from the season so far.

Mine has too greer he is just awesome i liked his charactor from the beginning

I like Young and Scott. Was good to see Jack back in SG aswell last night, made his usual funny remarks :)

[DirTyDeeDs]-Ziggy-

May 22 2010, 16:04

Rush is my favorite. I'm always left wondering what the f*$& hes going to do next!

ProfTournesol

May 23 2010, 06:44

Universe just isn't Stargate in my opinion.

I liked todays episode, was really exciting at some points :)

Agreed on both points. Some action finally, i may reduce my coffee drink while watching the end of the series :rolleyes:

kavoven

May 23 2010, 08:01

Its gonna get good! Hopefully we don't have to wait to long for the start of season 2 :)

Season 2 will start in autumn

Infam0us

May 23 2010, 11:16

Universe just isn't Stargate in my opinion.

I liked todays episode, was really exciting at some points :)

Its not suppose to be like SGA and SG1, the writers deliberately made something different. Bear in mind together SG1 and Atlantis have been going for almost 10 years I think, so its unsurprising they want to make something different.

Sickboy

May 23 2010, 11:21

Big fan of SG-1, and Atlantis aswell. Universe certainly is a different kind of series, and as a big fan of Battlestar Galactica and Caprica, I can fully appreciate this new setting.

Shadow.D. ^BOB^

May 23 2010, 21:56

^^ Is Caprica worth getting into?? I'm a big fan of BG but have not yet started watching Caprica.

kavoven

May 29 2010, 07:40

No new episode for today?

Infam0us

May 29 2010, 12:58

No new episode for today?

Nope, there is a week delay because the US did'nt show episode 18 but Canada did so were all waiting for them to catch up

Big Mac

May 29 2010, 15:42

Infam0us

May 29 2010, 16:30

Call me old school, but SG:U isn't even in the ball park when it comes to SG1. Atlantis was good up until season 3 then I totally lost interest. I'm willing to give SG:U a chance and like most shows the first season is almost always crap.

---------- Post added at 11:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:40 AM ----------

I didn't much care for it. The only good thing about it is drooling over Zoey.

I watched SG1 religiously, as I did with SGA. And I can say that SGU is a totally different style of program. It could quite easily be a show in its own right without the Stargate label its that different.

I remember reading an article by the shows producers were he was saying he's gone for something totally different, and much darker than SGA and SG1 were every story was neatly wrapped up in 40 minutes and everyone was happy. And I agree with him, thats what makes it so interesting.

SG1 went for 10 years and SGA for 5 if I remember correctly, you can understand why they want to create something different :)

Abs

May 29 2010, 17:48

MadDogX

May 31 2010, 11:45

When it comes to doing something different, why do that if the formula is working already?
Why should every show use the same formula? If they never tried anything different, TV would always be the same. I think 10 seasons of SG-1 and 5 of Atlantis are more than enough of that formula. Universe is a refreshing change of pace, although it obviously isn't all good.

They'd eventually have to change the plot of the entire series, unless they want the show to end up like 'Lost'. I mean, how long can they be stranded on a ship that they have no control over? Definitely not ten years...most people would tune out.
Of course they have to move the plot along eventually, but the same is true for every show. Just think about the first seasons of SG-1 and compare them to the later ones. Every show evolves over time, and it doesn't take much imagination to see where Universe could go.

Infam0us

May 31 2010, 15:42

I'm watching SG1 now (don't hate), and I find I'm getting incredibly irritated by the "We're in the army; MOVE MOVE MOVE!!!" shouting they have in the background. Atlantis was my favourite, by far. SGU still needs some time I guess...they had some good episodes and a lot of shitty ones.

When it comes to doing something different, why do that if the formula is working already? They'd eventually have to change the plot of the entire series, unless they want the show to end up like 'Lost'. I mean, how long can they be stranded on a ship that they have no control over? Definitely not ten years...most people would tune out.

Abs

As much as I would have loved to see SGA continue, I seriously would prefer it over SGU anytime, the ratings did progressively get worse and worse over the seasons in the US thus making the producers work on something else. Hopefully once the all clear is given they'll make the SGA movie they've been talking about for a few years!