OFP has fu**ing low framerate

[MrManiac]

Hi Guys !
I really hope that someone can help me. I searched for a solution in the whole Internet... My Problem is, that OFP stutters heavily when I look at some bushes, trees, vehicles, houses or other soldiers. OFP slows down to 4 fps which makes it unplayable. The problem exists both in SP and MP. I tried everything. Every Detonator, every setting in NVMax and OFP, reinstalling OFP with all patches, lowering resolution and/or details etc. Nothing changed. The framerate is nearly the same if I play @ 1024x786x32 with highest detail or @ 800x600x16 lowest detail.
My system specs:

AMD Duron 900 @ 1000
ASUS A7V133 & VIA 4-in-1 4.35
512 MB PC-133 SD-RAM
ASUS V7700 32MB (Geforce 2 GTS) & Every Detonator up to 21.88
SoundBlaster Live! Player 5.1
ELSA Microlink 56k PCI HCF
Realtek 8139 NIC
Windows XP, but under 98 and 2000 the problem was the same.

Please help me ! I'm going to give it up, and when I do so, OFP will be banned forever from my PC....

thx
MrManiac

[BoonieRat]

You got something running in the background?,try 'Alt' ***'Ctrl' and 'Delete', and close/turn off everything exept systray and explorer, i get that kinda shat;) if i try running mobo' monitor, type proggies in the background,
PS. read in another post, it might be joystick/input device-related, do you use a joystick?, or a mouse?,or what?,....

(Edited by BoonieRat at 11:32 am on Nov. 21, 2001)

[MrManiac]

No programs in background...
And I think I almost read every topic in this forum about my problem.

(Edited by MrManiac at 12:53 pm on Nov. 21, 2001)

[BoonieRat]

I cant remember what the thread starter was, but it was only a couple a days ago, and if i remember rightly, the Avon lady answered with the Joystick theory, so there might be something on her FAQ about it, are you using a joystick?,
another thing, have you disabled 'vertical sync'?, that can cause input/mouse lag, i dont know if that would cause stuttering, but its worth a try!,.....
PS if i find the thread i'll post,....
PPS. i know you said you tryed them all, but, Full Screen Anti Alias'ing, REALLY fvcks up the frame rate on my Gf2pro &1200 T/Bird

(Edited by BoonieRat at 12:04 pm on Nov. 21, 2001)

[BoonieRat]

<a href="http://www.theavonlady.org/theofpfaq/index.htm#install.joystick

i" target="_blank">http://www.theavonlady.org/theofpfaq/index.htm#install.joystick

i</a> dont know if its wot you need, but its from page 9, 'twitching' post, http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif,
Are those VIA 4/1's the latest & greatest?,....

[theavonlady]

Your URL is out of date. The FAQ (http://www.theavonlady.org/theofpfaq/) has been totally reformatted. Do searches for "joystick", "Nvidia" and "DirectX tweak". If that doesn't help, click on TROUBLESHOOTING on the left hand menu and browse the section.

[unholy chosen one]

mr.maniac is 800 x 600 the lowest resolution you can use? i have a geforce2 64m and i still can go as low as 640 x 480. i dont use it much unless i try to play a single player mission i created with a couple hundred troops.

[MrManiac]

Mmmm, I tried all of this m8s, sorry...
No Joystick = No Driver
DirectX Tweak = No framerate increase
Avons Lady FAQ = I already have it and read every Question
And I can also use 640x480, but framerate is slightly increased, but playing @ 640x480 isn't fun.

All drivers I'm using are the newest.
Don't know what to do... I HATE Codemasters for their really s**t support and patches !

[shadow warrior]

I think Codemasters insists on adding a stutter in to all their games!! I have CMR2 also from Codedisasters and guess what it has stuuutuutuutuers http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

I've also tweaked everything and still on occassion get these stutters in OPF. Its a BRILLIANT game but these stutters are a big let down.

Just tried Ghost Recon demo and it ran as smooth as butter so it cant be my system.

--------------------------------------------------
Athlon 1.4, Geforce 2 PRO, 512 DDR RAM

[MrManiac]

I tried another thing. Playing at 1600x1200x32. Now guess what, right ! Same framerate than in 800x600 or everything else. So the problem isn't really my hardware...

[Necromancer2k]

Try running it at the normal CPU clockspeed instead of the overclocked speed..

[jepuskar]

Ofcourse you have re-installed the game and ctrl-alt-del to all programs except systray and explorer as metioned above. If so then it is something with your hardware. Not quite sure what though..sorry cant help u there.
Usually I would make an AMD crack right now, but I will spare you my opinion on that matter as others use AMD with no problems. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Yes, I realize it does it in both SP and MP, but troubleshoot your problems using SP as framerates will be true.

[MrManiac]

At first, thank you all for ur suggestions, but nothing works. I think it has something to do with this bulls**t 4-in-1 drivers, my VIA chipset and my ASUS card.

[BoonieRat]

Yep, if the framerate does'nt change, i'm inclined to think it's hardware~related,
i've got an IWill KA266-r a1200(266)t~bird, a Gf2pro and 512mb Crucial2100, with this i can run at1600x1200x32, with all the settings up, its OK, not brilliant http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif, but totaly playable, strangely enough, its the cut~scenes that the F/R's slow down & stutter on!!,

have you checked for new 4in1's?,did you try dis-ableing Full screen anti aliasing?, you dont get many jaggies @ 1200x1600 anyways!! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
PS, do you have on-board sound?, if you do, try dis-ableing it, and running O/F/P in silence, as a test,....

(Edited by BoonieRat at 11:35 am on Nov. 22, 2001)

[RN Malboeuf]

ASUS V7700 32MB (Geforce 2 GTS) & Every Detonator up to 21.88

how old is this card? does it have MMX? SDR? DDR?

if it's more then 2 years old and has SDR Ram it's Time for a new Vid Card

[MrManiac]

Yes, I have the newest 4-in-1 drivers (4.35) and my soundcard is not onboard, as you can read in my first question http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif FSAA is off, same as V-Sync etc.

My ASUS V7700 is about a 3/4 year old and has got DDR RAM, but I can't imagine what it could have to do with my problem, because my PC's performance can't be the problem.

[Ian]

OFP game ran slow when I installed the latest driver for my built in sound card so it can support EAX. I gave up a reinstalled the old drivers. I also heard that Soundblaster Live and Audigy have compatiblity issues with VIA chipsets especially with the South Bridge. This issue is similar to mine.

[BoonieRat]

Well, apart from getting WDM drivers for the SoundBastard(that live crap really fvcks up the registry) and the latest BIOS for the Mobo in the hope of curing the S/B VIA south/B issue, the only other thing is the Vidcard BIOS,
the trouble with SoundBlastards is you have to reformat your H/D to get rid of all that live tosh, like ATi, there's no other way of getting rid of their drivers!, shoddy or what?,

[Drewus]

Hold on a sec.

With recent video cards (GeForce 2's and upwards) higher resolutions are MORE optimised than what lower resolutions are. At 1024 x 768 you will actually get a better framerate than what you would at 800 x 600, and no, i'm not making this up.
From now on forget about using any screen resolution, on any game, lower than 1024 x 768. The GeForce just wont run to it's full capabilities. 16 mb cards (voodoo 3's) handle lower resolutions like a dream, because that is what they were created for when they were released. Think of 1024 x 768 as now the lowest setting you can get when using a GeForce card and go from there.

I now suggest switching to 1024 x 768 and turning your detail right down. See if your framerate improves at all.

[PostaL]

If only bohemia played the game for a year themselves to experience and fix all bugs in stead off annoying the consumers with it.

[RN Malboeuf]

I'm sure they have played it more then you, it's actually ok to flame me or other Forums users, but when you make a statement with out trying to help and Just Flame BIS your asking for trouble

Getting BACK to problem

If you have a freind with a better card or say a Radeon 32 DDR ask him to swap for a day so you can both see what runs better

it does not hurt to do your own testing, and you'll find the answer doing so

[PostaL]

im helping them for donating my money for this game,

[RN Malboeuf]

do us a favor and return it.

[PostaL]

that will not make the game any better

[Col Rambo SBS]

Think you will find its your Duron thats the problem. Dump it and invest some cash in a proper Tbird.
The Durom is a cut down Tbird, just like the Celeron is a cut down verson ( of an already s**tty CPU ) Pentium.
Play the game on a Celeron PC and you get the same problem, only a bit worse.

[RN Malboeuf]

ther duron is a cut down from the athalon not the T-Bird

there are three AMD Products
Duron >950 mhz 100-133 mhz FSB
Atholon >1400 mhz 100-133-200 mhz FSB
Atholon T-Bird >1400 mhz 266 mhz FSB
then the XPs


the durun is not the problem other wise he would be getting stalls in windows all the time as well

Also he's not o/c so his duron should be working just fine

[Unl33t]

I have a P3 1ghz
256Ram
Geforce2 GTS

I get from 10-50 FPS at 1024x768x32

[RN Malboeuf]

800 mhz AMD 256megs
ATI Radeon 32 DRR
I had 90 FPS at 1024 32 bit

with my upgrade
14@1.6 ghz AMD 256megs
ATI Radeon 32 DRR
I had 110 FPS at 1024 32 bit

I now run in 1600x1200for SP and 1200x1024 for MP
average 45-55 FPS 32 bit

[Drewus]

<just like the Celeron is a cut down verson ( of an already s**tty CPU ) Pentium>

Not true. A Celeron CPU is actually a Pentium chip that didn't make it past recommended overclocking/heating tests. If the Pentium chip fails at a temperature or marking grade below the recommended Pentium grading then it will be classified as a Celeron chip.

I actually read about this in a magazine once. They went into the whole analysis of how different hardware components are tested and graded. Wish i still had the article it was great.

[BoonieRat]

Whatever!, they're still crap!,a year or so ago, you HAD to buy one if you're not rolling in cash!, nowadays theres NO EXCUSE for owning a Duron,http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif , and as for a Pant$ium!!! or !!!!, well what can you say?!!,...http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[RN Malboeuf]

we know they're crap, but our point is that it's not his Duron proccessor that is causing the problems, and telling some one to get a new proccessor and by doing so it will fix thier problem is BAD advice and a waiste of thier money
http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[MrManiac]

That's bulls**t, that the Duron is a bad CPU for gaming. My Duron is faster in every Benchmark, then any PIII. Either in 3D or in "Working" benchmarks. The only thing, why the Duron is cheaper is that it only has 64kb L2 cache. And I already said, that the problem isn't my PC's performance. My friend has got a Celeron 700, 256 MB RAM and a Geforce 256. He can play OFP at 1024x768x32 and everywhere highest details smooth.

[RN Malboeuf]

theres more then just that
Durons work fine and do out bench mark the Pentiums that have a FSB of 100 only
other wise there the same

Duron processors are stable and work well
but in the end they are still a lower product compared to the real gaming chip
Atholon T-Bird 266 1.4 ghz will kill a P4 1.7ghz any day

[MrManiac]

ok, of course the Athlon is faster than the Duron, but the Duron isn't bad at all. And I don't have so much money that I'm able to buy the newest CPU every week. And I started this thread because a problem with OFP, not because a problem with my CPU's speed. But thx anyway guys !

[Reefer]

Not sure if this will help but I was having all sorts of problems with my geforce 2 pro with those new XP 4 in 1 drivers.All my games where stuttering until I used the XP feature to roll the geforces card back to the GTS drivers windows xp originally installed.Games appear to be a lot smoother although I havent fully tested this assumption yet.

On another note can we not jump to the conclusion that the only way to fix small issues is to spend a fortune on upgrading your PC every time ,its so unhelpfull and its not gonna happen.Sorry to all the genuine helpers out there but it really makes my blood boil.

[MrManiac]

Thanks for your post, I tried it, but it doesn't work http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif But as I said, the problem exists since Win98 over Win2000 to WinXP. I really don't know what the problem could be....

[RN Malboeuf]

Getting BACK to problem

If you have a freind with a better card or say a Radeon 32 DDR ask him to swap for a day so you can both see what runs better

it does not hurt to do your own testing, and you'll find the answer doing so

[ScreamingWithNoSound]

On re-reading your original post, I can see that nobody has got the point of what you’re saying. I have exactly the same problem… it’s not _general_ performance, only when you’re looking at something real close… like a tree through a sniper scope? I just live with it. I would imagine that it’s something to do with the way that the engine is optimised – it’s designed for wide open spaces, not for close quarters.

I have an Athlon 900(100 fsb), 512mb pc133, GeForce2 MX(OEM).

I use the following settings:

Under additional properties for the graphics card –
(That’s: Start->Settings->Control Panel->Display->Settings->Advanced->GeForce xxxxxxx Properties->Additional properties)

3d Antialiasing Settings
Manually select the antialiasing mode
Off
Direct3D Settings
Enable Fog Table Emulation = Ticked
Display Logo when running D3D apps = unticked
MipMap detail level = Blend (Minimum you can run OFP with)
Use Upto _128_ MB of system memory for textures in PCI mode.

More Direct3D…
Vertical Sync = Disabled (this requires non-WHQL drivers and a registry hack)
Render no more than = _3_ frames ahead.

Everything else is irrelevant to performance in OFP.

In OFP preferences:

Display Device = Direct3D HW T&L (This is CRITICAL if you have a GeForce card, it improves performance MASSIVELY, even if it is a bit buggy in 16 bit mode)
Resolution = 1024x768x16

Advanced
Performance
Total Memory = 256MB
Texture Heap = 16MB
File Heap = 16MB
Geometry Performance = 1783
Effect
Object Shadows = Unchecked
Vehicle Shadows = Unchecked
Explosions/Smoke = Checked (this is a must, as grenades and smoke grenades don’t work (for you) if you have them disabled.
Additional Lights = Explosions, Missiles and static all ticked.
Textures
Cockpits = 64
Objects = 64
Landscape = 64
Special Effects = 32
Auto drop-down = 4x
Details
Max Objects = 256
Objects LOD = 0.032
Shadows LOD = 0.050 (irrelevant, as shadows are disabled)

In Game:

Visual Quality, Frame Rate = Maximum possible.

One thing – have you checked your BIOS settings? Toms Hardware Guide (www.tomshardware.com) did a BIOS tweaking article not too long ago, think it’s in the motherboards section.

Some points about what has been said on the thread.

*Athlon vs Duron.*

The Duron, is almost IDENTICAL to the Athlon, except in the amount of level 2 cache. The Athlon has 256KB, the Duron has just 64KB. The similarity is demonstrated very well by benchmarks involving certain wire-frame rendering software – where the Athlon and Duron perform EXACTLY the same (this is not bull-s**t, I couldn’t believe it myself). Where the Duron falls down compared to Athlon, is when it comes to handling large amounts of contiguous data… like bitmap images like… oooh, textures! That’s why the Athlons out-perform in games, but the difference isn’t massive.

In short, the only reason your Duron can’t cut the mustard, is because it runs at 900/1gig, not because it’s a Duron.

*Drivers*

Drivers can be important. However, if you have the latest Via 4in1 and Detonator, that should be all you need.

*Cel-it-on vs P 3*

The Celeron and P3 are very different, unlike Athlon/Duron. The celeron was, until recently, based on the P2. When it was taken up to 100mhz FSB, the core was changed to a cut down P3, the main difference being the reduced L2 cache – 256KB on P3, 128KB on Celeron oh yeah, and the Celeron only works at 100mhz fsb, compared to the 133mhz of the P3. Whoever said that Celerons were P3s that failed QC is talking through his arse (sorry). That was something that happened to the very early 486sx/dx. The Celeron was ALWAYS _designed_ to be the way it is. They designed it to be cheap deliberately, not by accident.

Have fun

Eddy

[AndyZ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from MrManiac on 4:39 pm on Nov. 22, 2001


My ASUS V7700 is about a 3/4 year old and has got DDR RAM, but I can't imagine what it could have to do with my problem, because my PC's performance can't be the problem.
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

I have V7700 Deluxe. I found out that it's faster with newest Asus driver, than whith general Nvidia Detonator ones. Try do unistall Detonators and install latest Asus drivers.

AndyZ

[MrManiac]

Do you mean the ASUS drivers, based on the 21.81 Detonator ? I tried. There was no speedup and at pc startup Windows freezes for about 10 secondes, because there's a problem in anvshell32.exe, the desktoputilities. And Andy, the problem is n-o-t the general performance.

[JPSgerman]

at first.....sorry for bad english

hhmm..
Normaly you must Install the Chip-Drivers (Motherboard CD) after Install Windows (all versions)
- any chips on Motherboard cant find by OS, incl. AGPport for VidCard

- After that you must change the ScreenClocking (Refreshrate of Screen between VidCard and Screen)
Standard is on "Optimal"...change it to 100 or higher -- testing this

This is the most Problem by W2000 and XP because this WindowsVersions handle other Refreshrates internal.
And W2K and XP working on NT-Kernel there is a big Problem between D3D and OpenGL. D3D has many problems with Games.

thx for listening
JPS-German

[WisdoM]

GTS sucks and is too slow for this game http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[ScreamingWithNoSound]

JPSgerman.

I'm sorry but what you have written about refresh rates and windows 2000 is not correct.

The 'Optimal' setting that you refer to, will push the monitor refresh rate to the maximum, for the screen area. To set your monitor refresh rate to 100hz is suicidal for 2 reasons: Most OEM 17" and almost all 15"/14" are not capable of displaying 1024x768 at 100hz, if you try to force the monitor to this refresh rate, you may damage your monitor, but more than likely, you'll just get a blank screen. (Incidentaly, to fix this, go into safe mode, reset the refresh rate, then restart, or just remove your display driver from device manager)

Besides, this only effect the _monitor_ NOT the graphics card. This is a control of how many times per second a new video signal is sent, not how fast it refreshes the frame buffer. As to whether refresh rate of the monitor is linked to the refresh rate when VSYNC is enabled, in this case, is irrelevant, as Mr Maniac has already stated that he has disabled VSYNC in the display drivers.

As for Win 2K / XP and DirectX. I cannot agree with what you say. 2K does run on the NT-style kernel, but it has been re-written. Win2K/XP actually use DirectX for ALL the video functions! While I must agree, I have encountered some problems with Win2K/DirectX and certain games, the vast majority were solved by the v11.xx nVidia drivers. Point being, that it is generally drivers that are the issue with 2K/XP. OK, there are many games that have problems with 2K/XP, but atleast with these, you don't need to restart your computer every time one crashes out...

[ScreamingWithNoSound]

Just to re-iterate.

The problem that MrManiac is experiencing, is NOT, N O T, repeat _IN NO WAY_ a GENERAL performance problem. His GENERAL performance is FINE.

His problem, is very specific and is one that I have encountered.

One good example:

You are sniping. You find yourself a nice, cosy bush, go prone, then switch to your scope... if you happen to catch the bush in your sight, or turn so you are facing the bush, the frame rate with drop DRAMATICALLY, for me and, from what I've read, for MrManiac, it almost becomes Jerk-o-vision.

This is a very specific problem. It is extremely interesting, as, in 3D games, say for example Quake, if you are staring at a simple surface, such as a wall, your frame rate will shoot right UP, it's only when you look at a wide open space, with lots of objects, that the game will slow down.

This is the EXACT opposite of what we seem to be experiencing, looking at open spaces is fine, it's when you're looking at a single object it goes to s***.

Reflecting on this, it may well be a disign feature *sigh*, as understandably, the game would have been optimised for open spaces, rather than confined ones.

[MrManiac]

Yeah, ScreamingWithNoSound got the point !
It's enough if i crawl into a bush and see the branches in front of me. The framerate goes down immediately.

[RN Malboeuf]

I only have that problem if I was running LOTs of Apps B4 I play OFP or Durring

never have it on a fresh Boot with little running in the tray

[BoonieRat]

You got any other D3D games?, wot d'they run like?,

PS i dont think anyone actualy said Duron's are crap, i said Pantiums are crap!, cause,well,...they are!(this is my opinion, it is non~negotiable;) )

(Edited by BoonieRat at 1:41 pm on Nov. 25, 2001)

[ScreamingWithNoSound]

*Sigh*

Boonie, yes, someone DID say Durons were crap, in fact, it was MrManiac who said they were.

I did not write the post AT anybody, I merely used my experience of PCs and what I've read in THG and others to clear up some misconceptions that had been put forward on the thread.

I do NOT appreaciate people (YOU) taking something that I had made as a GENERAL COMMENT to a whole forum and turning it against me in a personal way. I do not give a flying f*** what YOU did or did not say. If I was, I would have emailed you directly.

Did you receive and email from me directly?

<pause for silence>

But since you raised a point about the P3, I will return:

I do not consider the P3 to be crap. I consider them to be inferior to the Athlon in many ways, but they are not 'crap'. If you want 'crap', you want Cyrix MII. Clearly, the P3 is far supperior to this processor. Indeed, the P3 has many features which are superior to those included in the Athlon, least of which is it's in-built thermal protection. If you do not know what I mean, please read the review of the Athlon, P3 and P4 thermal protection on www.tomshardware.com.

In the same way, the P3 does have many shortcomings when compared to the Athlon. The Athlon was designed from the ground-up, wheras, the P3 is largely based on the same design as the original Pentium, a technology that is now 7 years old.

The main factor with the P3, is it's price. The P3 is a perfectly good processor - I work in PC support for a company that mainly sells Celeron/P3 systems. Athlons account for a far greater proportion of CPU replacements, despite very few of these being sold, relative to Celeron/P3. They are, however, overpriced. Price/performance, they simply cannot and never have, competed with Athlons. This is why I have not bought an Intel processor since 1996 and have no intention of doing so in the future, unless I have to build a mission-critical system, in which case, I may consider a P4 for obvious reasons. (If it's not that obvious to you, read the review on THG that I pointed you to earlier.)

Just in case you missed it the first time:

I do not like people making something I say personal, unless _I_ make it personal first.

Thank you.

[MrManiac]

(Ermmm, it was not me, who said Duron wiould be crap.)


Yes, I have many Direct3D games more and they are running very good. Better than OpenGL games ran under Win98, e.g. UT runs in D3D/XP about 2 times faster than in OGL/98. But OFP never ran smooth.
Some D3D examples: NHL 2002, UT, HL, AvP2 (D3D?), The Sims, Max Payne, Commandos 2 (it isn't Direct Draw, it actually is D3D) etc. No problems with this titles.

[BoonieRat]

Dude i did'nt turn anything against you!, i did'nt mention you, i did'nt even think of you!, man!, you're paranoid!,http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif,now if you'd like to explain 'Just How?' i ''turned something against you'', or ''Made It Personal'', i'd be happy to see your explaination!,http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif and if i remember rightly,Mr maniac got a bit 'peeved' cause, (whoops!! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ),i did actualy say durons were crap,when what i meant to say was'ANYTHING BELOW A T~BIRD IS CRAP!!', especialy Pee3's,haeing owned one ,thats my opinion, its non~negotiable,http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif he never said they were crap hisself, what is crap, is argueing about peeples opinions, its a no~win situation, and in my (non~negotiable;) ) opinion, complete and utter Pants!,http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif i'm sorry about writeing this crap in your post Maniac, i wont do it again,

*Back to topic*
Man this is a poser!, you dont *just* get it when zoomed in,with the Binos' or scope no?, its when you just look @ things?,up close?,have you tryed getting the NVmax (or whatever its called http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ) proggie?, and fiddleing with some of the more 'arcane' settings?. if other D3D games are OK, then i'm inclined to think this is actualy a general performance thing with OpF/P specificly, and this is just how its manifesting, how does it go with the new single~player mission?, the one with hundreds of AI's in the field all at once?, is it still only slowing when you 'close up' on something in that mission?,or is it choppy all through?,
have you contacted BIS yet?,

[pointless]

Well, all i experience (HELLLP!) is that OFP runs perfectly (think 40+fps) in normal mode, i.e. just walking around or the 3rd person 'looking at your own ass' mode.

When I switch to sniper mode or get killed and you get the scenic view of your own corpse and your killer the game stutters a -bit-. It's not that horrid but this shouldn't have to be, should it?

I have an epox (via kt266a-based) 8kha+ and an athlon XP 1800+, geforce 2 PRO (64m ddr)

[MrManiac]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from BoonieRat on 3:22 pm on Nov. 26, 2001
Dude i did'nt turn anything against you!, i did'nt mention you, i did'nt even think of you!, man!, you're paranoid!,http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif,now if you'd like to explain 'Just How?' i ''turned something against you'', or ''Made It Personal'', i'd be happy to see your explaination!,http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif and if i remember rightly,Mr maniac got a bit 'peeved' cause, (whoops!! http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ),i did actualy say durons were crap,when what i meant to say was'ANYTHING BELOW A T~BIRD IS CRAP!!', especialy Pee3's,haeing owned one ,thats my opinion, its non~negotiable,http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif he never said they were crap hisself, what is crap, is argueing about peeples opinions, its a no~win situation, and in my (non~negotiable;) ) opinion, complete and utter Pants!,http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif i'm sorry about writeing this crap in your post Maniac, i wont do it again,

*Back to topic*
Man this is a poser!, you dont *just* get it when zoomed in,with the Binos' or scope no?, its when you just look @ things?,up close?,have you tryed getting the NVmax (or whatever its called http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ) proggie?, and fiddleing with some of the more 'arcane' settings?. if other D3D games are OK, then i'm inclined to think this is actualy a general performance thing with OpF/P specificly, and this is just how its manifesting, how does it go with the new single~player mission?, the one with hundreds of AI's in the field all at once?, is it still only slowing when you 'close up' on something in that mission?,or is it choppy all through?,
have you contacted BIS yet?,
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lol, never mind for this http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
All of your questions will get answered, when you read the whole thread. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[cnivison]

Well, I took advantage of the Best Buy GeForce 3 $99 offer, hoping to increase my OFP framerates... didn't do a thing. Although, the FSAA looks does make the game look much better. I can only guess that the game is extremely processor intensive, and not so much video card related (I mean, there are sooo many objects on screen). I wonder if BIS is planning on streamlining the engine? My game runs butter smooth until too much action or too many units appear. I have a P-III 933. Any of you 2 Ghz users out there have bad frame rates?

[ScreamingWithNoSound]

Sorry BoonieRat, I was having a bad day and you reminded me of Big Dave (shudder). To him, everything is crap "Cause it is".

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I would like to say, that someone who is unwilling to accept a new point of view, because it challenges what they percieve to be true, really does my head in, because it's the sort of thing that racists and religious fanatics do.

I cannot stand either.

Bisides, there is nothing WRONG with changing your views (I think it's called adapting to your surroundings, or wisdom). Changing your view doesn't make you less of a person, less of who you are, in fact, it's failing to challenge yourself (by using prompts that others give you) that makes you an individual, anything else and you become a sheep...

LOL... not that I'm trying to alter your view, I'm just trying to get you to challenge it (properly) yourself.

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[BoonieRat]

S'ok dude!, everyone has bad days, me more than most;) , please dont think me pig headed, i write 'non~negotiable' cause i hate getting into arguments over opinion!, not cause i've got a 'no reverse kinda reasoning' http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ,also i wrote the 'pentium are crap' line in a joking way, i was surprised when i went back to read it and found i had'nt put a smiley in :o,my mistuuke http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I like to think i'm an honest person, the truth is a big thing to me, i think life without it becomes pointless, i think this is part of why the world is such a messy ####(not the fun, glow in the dark,'lets get it on honey!' one!!) http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif , so i look for the truth in all things, and truth is'nt always a fixed Black/White thing!, i'm not a racist or religeous person, i have my beliefs, but organised religion is a thing of the past ,IMO http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ,i have my opinions, but i'm not polarised in any way, so please!, i'm still learning/looking at everything!, dont mistuuke me for 'Big Dave' http://www.flashpoint1985.com/ikonboard3/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
PS, who's Big Dave??,.....

[TheBean]

Have you checked you IRQ settings? Is the IRQ of youre video card not shared with an other device? If so, turn ACPI in youre BIOS off, and remove it from youre windows. Helped me when running in Win2000. In Win XP no problems though with ACPI.