View Full Version : ATi Catalyst 9.6 Download
BIS said these drivers may help performance:
There wil be new drivers from ATI around 10.6. that will fix videomemory fragmentation problem, hope it will help.
Updated: Official drivers available at http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx
moosenoodles
Jun 8 2009, 15:12
are these leaked or beta I dont see no info on amd's site?
They appear to be leaked official drivers (not beta).
Can anyone confirm that this driver works?
If so, are there any noticeable improvements?
Downloading now, but I can't test them until I get home in about 6 hours.
moosenoodles
Jun 8 2009, 15:30
Im not testing them till I hear some solid proof they are for win7 :D, Ive been told now that they are supposed to be heading to combining vista and win7 drivers in one package, but not sure if thats starting with 9.6. You will read at guru now that someone there with a 4770 card I notice said they dont update it shows 9.5...
8 posts from the user though, and a 4770 is not that friendly with drivers either as 9.5's were the only ones that would solidly work for that card of late lol..
Ill hang on see what posts appear about them.. :)
VictorTroska
Jun 8 2009, 15:43
Ive been told now that they are supposed to be heading to combining vista and win7 drivers in one package, but not sure if thats starting with 9.6.
Vista & Windows 7 drivers are unified since Catalyst 9.3
Quote from a guy on Guru3d:
Driver installed fine here (Vista x64), not WHQL signed and if the version number also works as a date then the drivers are from early last month and probably a beta version of 9.6.
No problems with them (Only tested a few titles though.) and the temps are also fine without having to exit a 3D application first.
As for what's different from 9.5 I have no idea, some new fixes for the drivers and CCC perhaps along with improved support for more recent titles I would guess.
(ArmA 2 for example.)
I have downloaded them but can't try them until I get home this evening which is a few hours away. I'll report my findings once I've tried them out.
Looks like we are all trapped at work and can download but not test lol.
Saying that...need the XP ones....
moosenoodles
Jun 8 2009, 15:56
Vista & Windows 7 drivers are unified since Catalyst 9.3
Just thought it was odd as there is a seperate area on amd site to download windows 7 drivers.
---------- Post added at 04:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:55 PM ----------
Quote from a guy on Guru3d:
I have downloaded them but can't try them until I get home this evening which is a few hours away. I'll report my findings once I've tried them out.
update
EDIT: Seems to be fixed by removing the -winxp command line parameter, previously used for Crossfire compatability but it doesn't seem to be needed anymore and it didn't BSOD either
VictorTroska
Jun 8 2009, 15:57
Just thought it was odd as there is a seperate area on amd site to download windows 7 drivers.
Yeah, but they are unified, e.g. 9-5_vista64_win7_64_dd_ccc_wdm_enu.exe
moosenoodles
Jun 8 2009, 16:05
Yeah, but they are unified, e.g. 9-5_vista64_win7_64_dd_ccc_wdm_enu.exe
Ah ok thanks..
OverDawg
Jun 8 2009, 16:45
Great, if performance is up and BIS introduces AA and takes the blur down a notch we're all set graphics-wise imo :)
VictorTroska
Jun 8 2009, 17:22
As far as I can tell, these bring smoother gameplay, I'll keep them :smile_o:
Bah, I installed the XP ones. Performance seems roughly the same. All it did was kill my audio WTH?
electron-libre
Jun 8 2009, 18:15
I've made some ArmaMark and compared to my last one.
There is no significative performance improvements on Normal settings.
It work a few better in high setting.
The most noticeable is that I can now use the "default" video memory setting without artifacts, and got less textures flickering.
These drivers brings more quality than perfomances.
The main performance improvement will come with the next patch (I hope)
KillaALF
Jun 8 2009, 18:22
Bah, I installed the XP ones. Performance seems roughly the same. All it did was kill my audio WTH?
Most likely your audio output was set to "ATI HD Audio rear output" - set it back to your usual sound device in the control panel under "sounds and audio devices"
Nicholas
Jun 8 2009, 18:24
These are leaked? I only see 9.5 on the ATI website, not 9.6
This is where I got mine:
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=win7/windows-7-64bit
froggyluv
Jun 8 2009, 19:06
Added 500 to my ArmaMark score, not bad.
When I first got Arma 2 my scores where around 2500-2700
After tweaking around, defragging and what not 3200-3400
Now there sitting pretty at 3900's
8500 oc'ed
vista 64
4 gigs 800
4870 oc'ed
Artifacts still exist, these drivers have not fixed the issue, bad luck. Lets hope the official ones have this supposed fix in them... personally I think they will not.
I've just tried them, still getting artifacts :( - I'll wait for the official ones, and post if I notice a difference.
I hate this bug so bad.
too big picture, please link any pictures >100kB : http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9512/arg.jpg
NoBF2boy
Jun 9 2009, 01:14
Performance is greatly increased here with those drivers!
if someone gets BSOD like me with A2 and these new drivers
details
http://www.rage3d.com/BOARD/showpost.php?p=1335910767&postcount=17
then please support the cause and post on Rage3D forums about Your experience
(both positives and negatives)
usually AMD.ATI seems 'control' this leak thru one of theirs testers and if no problems are found these drivers are released with WHQL several days later
While I dont seem to get any more FPS with these drivers, Arma 2 does seem alot smoother. Have not had any problems with them so far!
if someone gets BSOD like me with A2 and these new drivers
details
http://www.rage3d.com/BOARD/showpost.php?p=1335910767&postcount=17
then please support the cause and post on Rage3D forums about Your experience
(both positives and negatives)
usually AMD.ATI seems 'control' this leak thru one of theirs testers and if no problems are found these drivers are released with WHQL several days later
That is what seems to happen but there is also a possibility that rflair just gets hold of them from other sources.
Anyhows, these are broken and do not fix the ArmA2 problem. If it is just driver related then why is it only ArmA2 that is affected ? I mean I can get past the issue as stated before by increasing my AGP Aperture to 512mb but this hugely affects boot time, game exiting and other functions for some reason, PCI-e users do not have this luxury.
That is what seems to happen but there is also a possibility that rflair just gets hold of them from other sources.
Anyhows, these are broken and do not fix the ArmA2 problem. If it is just driver related then why is it only ArmA2 that is affected ? I mean I can get past the issue as stated before by increasing my AGP Aperture to 512mb but this hugely affects boot time, game exiting and other functions for some reason, PCI-e users do not have this luxury.
his postings were sanctioned in past by other AMD testers
and in total this is 3rd or 4th release in this style by him
and considering Rage3D is visited by AMD testers and Catalyst driver team coders on regular basis ...
but that's just my opinion about 'controlled' leaks
moosenoodles
Jun 9 2009, 09:47
Running them here and ive had no problems with gaming so far, arma2 does seem more responsive albeit not like wow wow different but there is something there with these drivers that make the feel of gameplay/movement generally smoother in some way.
Warhammer online/sims3/wow/Dow2/Empire total war/Killing floor/ all running good as well.
Everyone with the GFX issue please post in the Rage3d thread please, this may help get the problem more attention and maybe a hotfix for AGP and PCI-e ATI users with the issue.
As Dwarden says, more often than not these 'leaks' are the official drivers but non WHQL'd so we will have to wait for another month before we even get a sniff of a fix if they haven't picked it up.
@<hidden>, surely BIS have contacts in AMD/ATI and have supplied ArmA2 for testing ?
Ratcatcher722
Jun 9 2009, 17:02
Well my experience with the new drivers is overall positive.
I had been getting a simply awful white out every time I dared look toward the sun, and I mean retina melting bright.
I'm glad to say after this driver its now back to normal sun brightness, I do seem to have lost some FPS but the gain far out weighs the loss.
Specs are Intel q6600 2.4 O/C 3.2: ATI HD Radeon 4870x2 : 2841 RAM : XP SP3 with Direct X 9.0c
I'm running on a 24" Dell at 1920x1200 pretty much everything on high. Getting 30-45 FPS mostly, but haven't tried any complex missions, time will tell.
Not had any crashes ( touch wood ) but had some instances of starting with good fps ( 35-40 ) then nose diving to 10 or so for no apperent reason. Recently this has not happened again, so I'm hoping thats the new driver as well.
I think I've gotten a pretty big boost from these drivers. Maybe not in terms of framerate, but stuttering and texture/LOD pop-in have both been reduced bigtime. It's actually very playable with everything set to Very High now (not the campaign though, that's still buggered). And the crazy artefacting I was experiencing before has gone as well. Thumbs up from me!
Hope they work properly on XP64
Everyone with the GFX issue please post in the Rage3d thread please, this may help get the problem more attention and maybe a hotfix for AGP and PCI-e ATI users with the issue.
As Dwarden says, more often than not these 'leaks' are the official drivers but non WHQL'd so we will have to wait for another month before we even get a sniff of a fix if they haven't picked it up.
@<hidden>, surely BIS have contacts in AMD/ATI and have supplied ArmA2 for testing ?
Interesting when you believed these drivers only increase notepad frame rates (http://www.rage3d.com/BOARD/showpost.php?p=1335910193&postcount=4). Yet you turn around and say these may not be the final version (http://www.rage3d.com/BOARD/showpost.php?p=1335910202&postcount=6). I find it hard to believe anything you make claim to. In any case the word is that the official drivers will be out next week (http://twitter.com/CatalystMaker/status/2091397759).
ECH - Notepad frame rates = cheap joke, it got a laugh, do I care you didn't laugh or get it ? Nah.
They may not be finals yes but as Dwarden says the more we pipe up about these 'leaked' drivers may help them either look into these 'officially leaked' drivers or tell us 'I told u so' when they release a completely different set, again, if you can't see that then shame but not my problem.
New drivers out next week, great, lets see if they are the same, hold off complaining till then if you think that will help your cause.
Just for info, I have also posted in the gaming seciton under ArmA2 thread that I don;t think AMD/ATI give a toss about the game and its sales and my next card may indeed be an NVidia offering, is that too bad of me ?
Oh and welcome to the forums, its nice to have someone to join in the fun.
xx
ECH - Notepad frame rates = cheap joke, it got a laugh, do I care you didn't laugh or get it ? Nah.
They may not be finals yes but as Dwarden says the more we pipe up about these 'leaked' drivers may help them either look into these 'officially leaked' drivers or tell us 'I told u so' when they release a completely different set, again, if you can't see that then shame but not my problem.
New drivers out next week, great, lets see if they are the same, hold off complaining till then if you think that will help your cause.
Just for info, I have also posted in the gaming seciton under ArmA2 thread that I don;t think AMD/ATI give a toss about the game and its sales and my next card may indeed be an NVidia offering, is that too bad of me ?
Oh and welcome to the forums, its nice to have someone to join in the fun.
xx
No, it's not about me finding your joke distasteful or not. The point of the matter is how I see you contradict yourself here and over at Rage. By criticizing drivers that you willingly admit maybe different once the officials are release. It's pretty obvious by now (through your own admission) that you favor one video card over another which is why I can't take what you say seriously.
But I do thank you for taking the time in an attempt to explain yourself. Specially to someone whom (you implied) doesn't care about what I think of your posts. The additional information has confirming my initial impression of you. It's greatly appreciated. ;)
Worldeater
Jun 9 2009, 20:24
Those drivers look good. No more BSODing! :)
Vista64, 3870x2, "-winxp" to enable CrossFireX.
Basil Brush
Jun 9 2009, 21:03
Textures still flickering and loading slow been like it since Arma so doubting they'll ever fix it now, ah well looks like Arma 2 is probably the last BI game I ever buy.
Textures still flickering and loading slow been like it since Arma so doubting they'll ever fix it now, ah well looks like Arma 2 is probably the last BI game I ever buy.
is arma2 out in the uk?
Basil Brush
Jun 9 2009, 21:31
is arma2 out in the uk?
No. I have the German version.
Textures still flickering and loading slow been like it since Arma so doubting they'll ever fix it now, ah well looks like Arma 2 is probably the last BI game I ever buy. - Whoah there fella, remember that BIS announced that there would be bugs in the German version, wait till the euro release sucks before saying that :P
I was told in a thread by Ohara that ATI would release a driver hotfix on the 10th, perhaps they have had a setback? I can't be bothered to wait another whole week! (I've a sneaking suspicion that they will release it on, or just before the 19th, to co-inside with the Euro release)
ArmA2 will rock fellas, it actually has good ai, and a good map! (Sahrani was so unrealistic it hurt)
@<hidden>: Is it that time of the month again? its ok, all girls get it. But quit picking fights. Does it matter it Thr0tt prefers a certain card? Hell I do, ATI all the way! oh no, I'm biased - who cares? He contradicted himself! Oh noes! (apparently, anyway, I really wasn't reading that deep into it, while we're on this subject, does two x's mean she loves me?)
Lots of love
Me
xx
moosenoodles
Jun 10 2009, 15:06
All im gonna say is.. "where is my hotfix" :D
Dwarden
Jun 10 2009, 15:26
the point of the 'controllled' leaks is to obtain volume 'response' on drivers prior sending them to WHQL process ...
very useful to find and fix fatal errors intime...
it's not to please some nitpicker about if it's or not same version which will be WHQL
All im gonna say is.. "where is my hotfix"
I want it so bad :'(
OverDawg
Jun 10 2009, 16:32
I dont think ATI is very assertive when it comes to cooperating with game dev's to speed up driver compatibility. Nvidia doesn't wait for game dev's to come to them before they release their game. And judging from posts on that other forum, BIS neglected to wake ATI up in time to properly and timely support their game.
@<hidden>: Is it that time of the month again? its ok, all girls get it. But quit picking fights. Does it matter it Thr0tt prefers a certain card? Hell I do, ATI all the way! oh no, I'm biased - who cares? He contradicted himself! Oh noes! (apparently, anyway, I really wasn't reading that deep into it, while we're on this subject, does two x's mean she loves me?)
Lots of love
Me
xx
Your ad hominem reply only reveals how frustrated you are that I've addressed this, ;). You go on to further validate my observations of that individual. So, to answer your question yes it does matter. I came here looking for specific information about my PC setup and this game. :eek:
Basil Brush
Jun 10 2009, 23:43
hotfix for what? the texture/flicker problem yeah I'll believe it when I see it.
I would put £100 on it not happening anytime soon (probably never).
Anyway I've decided not to let it annoy me any more Arma 2 will sit idle on my
hdd until they fix it so I guess that is that then.. awaiting OFP2.. :rolleyes:
@<hidden> Brush - I think if you set memory and texture to low it will work, not the best solution but at least you would be able to play it until....well...if it gets fixed... for AGP users just set AGP Aperture to 512MB (I have 512MB card) which enables normal mem and normal textures, not sure if there is a similar bios setting for PCI-e as stated b4.
I've got an ATI 4870, it only corrupts when I set the memory to 'default'. I can run the game (really smooth with the new drivers) with the video setting 'Very High) and get no distorting. But I just sometimes, especially in cities, get slow texture loading. Its just frustrating to know my card isn't being used fully.
Your ad hominem reply only reveals how frustrated you are that I've addressed this - lol, I just think you're being silly that's all, but I'm not picking fights, neither should you be, lets 'can the frivolous off-topic spiel.
=Spetsnaz=
Jun 11 2009, 13:21
works! saw some fps improvement in a few games. Happy at the moment with the 9.6 driver :)
does reverting to older drivers like the 8 series fix the issues?
anyone tried?
Basil Brush
Jun 11 2009, 19:14
I've got an ATI 4870, it only corrupts when I set the memory to 'default'. I can run the game (really smooth with the new drivers) with the video setting 'Very High) and get no distorting. But I just sometimes, especially in cities, get slow texture loading. Its just frustrating to know my card isn't being used fully.
So your not seeing this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoozjv-hvgg) issue?.
moosenoodles
Jun 11 2009, 19:20
The window texture loading etc seems to be where hi and low res textures are holding the same location and not being fixed to one or the other when at view like that.. annoying i get it on more than windows for the most part :(
Even arma 1 today still has that on say the main airbase control tower doors when looking from a distance.. again annoying and prob easily fixed.
Basil Brush
Jun 11 2009, 19:27
Its not just the flickering which is a sizable bug to me but the slow loading/changing textures just makes the game feel so unrealistic on top of that we have lack of AA support and that just makes me not want to bother playing.
Then I see this (http://dev-heaven.net/issues/show/1771) has been downgrade to 'normal' priority? umm why?. Its strange how no one from BIS seems to have any comment on this issue.
Ask kju. ArmA2 devs don't moderate devheaven
@<hidden> Basil Brush: yeah I get that issue bad! With the new drivers, it seems textures load quicker when the memory is set to 'very high'. Its still present, just less noticeable. (In cities, however, that is a completely different story...)
But BIS still need to sort it out, that pissed me off seeing the priority changed, for me its the most prolific and annoying bug of them all, if they only fixed one thing, it would be this, lol.
kklownboy
Jun 11 2009, 22:14
Its not just the flickering which is a sizable bug to me but the slow loading/changing textures just makes the game feel so unrealistic on top of that we have lack of AA support and that just makes me not want to bother playing.
Then I see this (http://dev-heaven.net/issues/show/1771) has been downgrade to 'normal' priority? umm why?. Its strange how no one from BIS seems to have any comment on this issue. because it doesnt happen to everybody, and it may be a H/W issue on your part... and or setting in game.
@<hidden>: While I do agree everyone computer is different. I've heard of this problem from a lot of unhappy peeps, myself included (I still get it, just had to live with everything turned down to high (from very high)).
Basil Brush
Jun 12 2009, 09:13
because it doesnt happen to everybody, and it may be a H/W issue on your part... and or setting in game.
Well it has happened on both my old pc and new pc, one with Nvidia one with ATI card. I have tried every variable setting in game.
kklownboy
Jun 12 2009, 16:28
Well it has happened on both my old pc and new pc, one with Nvidia one with ATI card. I have tried every variable setting in game.
well you only have 3gb of ram with xp, and your card is only 512mb, You will find that vista and win7 will be much smoother ect, i hope in a patch they can help with the lod issues on xp systems... then there is the HDD and pagefile.
Publicglutton
Jun 15 2009, 17:13
The ATI Catalyst™ 9.6 have just been released 2 minutes ago , they may be the solution to all the graphics issues ....or at least some of them ...:)
Get them here:-
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx
amadieus
Jun 15 2009, 17:36
yay lets hope it works
..and BIS plz release DEMO now ;)
PsychoPigeon
Jun 15 2009, 18:09
thanks downloading
Its exactly the same version that was 'leaked' a week a go. Fantastic ! No fixes then if you already are using the 'leaked' set.
Need to wait yet another month now for any sort of fix for the problem some of us are having with artifacts.
Officially relased now:
;-----------------------------------------------
;----------0905291343-8.62-090520m1-081744C-ATI
;-----------------------------------------------
; ATI Display Information file : ATIIXPAG.INF
; Installation INF for the ATI display driver.
; Copyright(C) 1998-2004 ATI Technologies Inc.
; Windows XP
; Base INF Last Updated 2005/11/01
[Version]
Signature="$Windows NT$"
Provider=%ATI%
ClassGUID={4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
Class=Display
DriverVer=05/15/2009, 8.620.0.0000
CatalogFile=CX_81744.CAT
Looks to be the same... I hope some are able to play on Friday when they get the game otherwise these forums are going to be stuffed full of folk with the artifact issue.
From Guru3D.com:
The files' date is 5/16 for official release and rflair's one is 5/5. Some files' size is different. So, I think the official one is much newer.
May be slightly different sizes but I can confirm they don't fix the issue.
JamesF1
Jun 15 2009, 21:14
I'm getting some terrible issues (not Arma2 related, strictly) with the new 9.6's on my HD 4850 512MB. Whenever trying to enable/disable a screen display, I get the red 'bars' that are used for the load tests (on the primary monitor)... and they just don't go away, they stay there until everything locks up and then the system reboots. Fun times. Had the same problem with the 9.5's (though, less frequently).
It got so bad, it wouldn't even initialise the screen on boot... had to uninstall the drivers in safe mode :(
Back to 9.4's I go, it seems. Though, if anyone has any ideas... I'd happily take 'em :)
UNA-C-Blade
Jun 15 2009, 21:34
I realy hoop they fix that flikkering its just unplayble for me i dont get how they mist this problem ?
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Graphic Card: ATi Radeon 4870 X2
RAM: Geil 2x 2024 GB
Motherboard: ASUS Maximus SE
HDD: Sygate Baraccuda 500 GB
Monitor: Samsung SM T220 22 Zoll (1680 x 1050)
Mouse: Logitech G9
Keyboard: Logitech G19
Soundcard: Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium
moosenoodles
Jun 15 2009, 22:17
Just installed the official cats 9.6 that were just released, 10 days diff on the file date and some files are diff in size also (compared to early leaked release 9.6), all I can say is, stunning job, personally im seeing a very good performance increase here.
moosenoodles
Jun 15 2009, 22:19
Just installed these, im seeing a very good improvement here.. no poping of textures no lag when at a base even if its on mass fire, turning around and running in said location is no diff all smooth and instant, all on very high.
Strange stuff but seems good so far.
Merged the other Catalyst 9.6 thread in here.
moosenoodles
Jun 15 2009, 22:31
Thanks for the merge, but how about now deleting one of those posts of mine lol? makes sense right.
moosenoodles
Jun 16 2009, 00:45
Spotted another thing odd after installing the official 9.6 cats look what arma2 recognised this setting at?
3D_Performance=-4194304; << wtf lol its been recently either 100000 or 80000 that is a big number difference compared huh... Also compared to all the other entries im seeing they dont have the =- << negative sign.. only other option that does is this.
adapter=-1; << here
3D_Performance=100000; << what mine used to show
most odd indeed, whats right whats wrong, whats bugged whats broken whats not lol.. you decide hehe.
But the fairly good thing is I just played a full setting game with 4 people and it was stable at 60 fps, I give up hehe it works it seems when it wants to.
Just curious if I am the only one getting massive screen corruption still ? The screen goes grey with flickering artifacts all over the screen ?
I am sure its not only me but just testing the water, I guess it will become more of an issue if its a driver / game issue when the demo is released and the EU version hits the shelves. Nothing like reactive support.
moosenoodles
Jun 16 2009, 18:05
Ive only seen grey polys no textures when say the mission is about to start and u get that jump from initiating part to when u finaly get in game, its like a quick view flash u get sometimes of the scene then black then waiting screen again then sound then game finaly pops in.
other than that no texture loading issues once in game.
UNA-C-Blade
Jun 16 2009, 18:58
well stil have the flikkering problem so the 9.6 dident help me :mad:
PhatVybz
Jun 16 2009, 18:59
for those with visual glitches ..did you try in target parmeter of the arma2 shortcut -noCB
to me it fixed some glitches
but they werent that terible tho
was more shadow glitches
for those with visual glitches ..did you try in target parmeter of the arma2 shortcut -noCB
to me it fixed some glitches
but they werent that terible tho
was more shadow glitches
This is a different problem. The problem I am seeing is massive screen corruption, similar to that seen when you overclock a card and artifacts start stretching over the screen.
Minor shadow glitches, odd flickering textures here and there are nothing compared to the whole screen bursting into a textured nightmare. If it was only the usual minor glitches then I would not even be posting it here as it is part of the franchaise ;)
page 1 of http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=73235 thread and his screen shots show exactly my problem (and his ;) ). If its anything like that then same boat otherwise maybe look for the 'shadows flicker a little bit' thread. :D
Basil Brush
Jun 16 2009, 19:41
for those with visual glitches ..did you try in target parmeter of the arma2 shortcut -noCB
to me it fixed some glitches
but they werent that terible tho
was more shadow glitches
Does not help with texture flickering and slow loading textures, believe me I've tried it all... its an issue within the engine I believe...
:confused:
moosenoodles
Jun 16 2009, 22:02
Well it looks like an issue with the engine and something else regarding hardware cause I dont have those issues no flickering building textres no flashing of windows etc, the only thing I see that annoys me in everygame with foliage now is the radius around the player where u see grass update and get denser as you move..
E6600@<hidden>
XfX4870 9.6 official drivers 1GB
Windows 7 RC 7100
Anyone tried making sure the fsb ratios and memory are 1:1 ? worth a try I seemed to clear up any graphic annomolies after that was done. Just a thought..:)
LeChuckle
Jun 16 2009, 23:01
Well it looks like an issue with the engine and something else regarding hardware cause I dont have those issues no flickering building textres no flashing of windows etc, the only thing I see that annoys me in everygame with foliage now is the radius around the player where u see grass update and get denser as you move..
E6600@<hidden>
XfX4870 9.6 official drivers 1GB
Windows 7 RC 7100
Anyone tried making sure the fsb ratios and memory are 1:1 ? worth a try I seemed to clear up any graphic annomolies after that was done. Just a thought..:)
how do i check that?
Basil Brush
Jun 17 2009, 00:31
Well it looks like an issue with the engine and something else regarding hardware cause I dont have those issues no flickering building textres no flashing of windows etc, the only thing I see that annoys me in everygame with foliage now is the radius around the player where u see grass update and get denser as you move..
E6600@<hidden>
XfX4870 9.6 official drivers 1GB
Windows 7 RC 7100
Anyone tried making sure the fsb ratios and memory are 1:1 ? worth a try I seemed to clear up any graphic annomolies after that was done. Just a thought..:)
Can you make a video in fraps to show it?. The only thing I guess it could be because your using windows 7 not xp. Its been there in both Arma 1 and 2 on 2 different systems for me on xp.
froggyluv
Jun 17 2009, 07:52
Does this look like a driver problem?
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3047/arma22009061700304252.jpg
craig3000
Jun 17 2009, 09:50
show me a link with benchmarks that shows an increase in performance then...
Oh dear
Try to make this as simple as possible with the whole 1:1 ratio
If you have a quad Q6600 CPU, the fsb runs at 1066mhz right, that's because the base clock or w/e runs at 266mhz but because there's four cores it x4
Now for the best performance out of the ram you need at least 533mhz why? Well DDR2 is dual channel right so 533mhz isn't the true speed an individual stick runs at so it's actually half making it 266mhz
Now as you can see from the CPU base clock you have 266mhz and from the ram 266mhz = a 1:1 ratio
Now so people get the idea faster ram clock speeds equal better which is not true, if you have a perfect 1:1 ratio your seeing the best performance, if your RAM is of a higher ratio than the CPU you will get the same performance as 1:1 the ram will just wait for the CPU to catch up HOWEVER! if the ram is slower than the CPU the CPU has to wait for the ram which will decrease performance, OK!!!!
(Please don't bash me for any mistakes etc I'm not an expert on the subject but it's a better explanation than you two arguing :D but it's along those lines and I don't know if its the same as AMD series and Core i7 as they don't use FSB)
NoBF2boy
Jun 17 2009, 12:52
Oh dear
Try to make this as simple as possible with the whole 1:1 ratio
If you have a quad Q6600 CPU, the fsb runs at 1066mhz right, that's because the base clock or w/e runs at 266mhz but because there's four cores it x4
Now for the best performance out of the ram you need at least 533mhz why? Well DDR2 is dual channel right so 533mhz isn't the true speed an individual stick runs at so it's actually half making it 266mhz
Now as you can see from the CPU base clock you have 266mhz and from the ram 266mhz = a 1:1 ratio
Now so people get the idea faster ram clock speeds equal better which is not true, if you have a perfect 1:1 ratio your seeing the best performance, if your RAM is of a higher ratio than the CPU you will get the same performance as 1:1 the ram will just wait for the CPU to catch up HOWEVER! if the ram is slower than the CPU the CPU has to wait for the ram which will decrease performance, OK!!!!
(Please don't bash me for any mistakes etc I'm not an expert on the subject but it's a better explanation than you two arguing :D but it's along those lines and I don't know if its the same as AMD series and Core i7 as they don't use FSB)
that sounds like a perfect explanation and i think that people shouldnt worry about th 1:1 issue, except they have some kind of very old ram in their systems.
i got ddr2 800 and my ratio is DRAM-6:FSB-5, so as you said, everything should be fine.
---------- Post added at 12:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:51 PM ----------
Does this look like a driver problem?
]
i get the same problem from time to time, not sure if its a driver problem or a arma2 prob.
its already reported here:
http://dev-heaven.net/issues/show/1947
householddog
Jun 17 2009, 17:24
Got a possible fix.
Changing the Video memory down to Very High, rather than using the cfg file fixes it.
The problem occurs shortly after you run out of local memory.
This does limit the available memory to aroung 680 meg though.
<STRIKE>Does ARMA2 have some sort of swap/page file for memory? IE Non Local VRAM. Maybe deleting it will help.
Anyone know where it is, or even if it exists?
The new driver did say it fixed memory fragmentation. Maybe the new addressing method is incompatible with the old data in the swap file.</STRIKE>
Turns out it just writes to memory. Hmm maybe lowering it might help?
Tankriders
Jun 17 2009, 17:55
lol, now my ARMA1 game is more stable than ever..
householddog
Jun 17 2009, 19:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpNoxKzEEvw
Placebo
Jun 17 2009, 22:22
Well these were lovely drivers, downloaded, installed, install failed, uninstalled, used driver cleaner to remove all trace, rebooted, blue screen, rebooted, blue screen, repeat 20 times with some failed safe mode, failed last known, failed Windows 7 repair, in the end the only thing that got me back was a system image I created a couple of days ago, so I lost a bunch of work from today plus MSN/Skype messages and the like :(
---------- Post added at 00:22 ---------- Previous post was at 23:58 ----------
Bunch of crap about overclocking removed, stick to the topic or take it to PM please.
PhatVybz
Jun 18 2009, 04:48
is there a way to increase the grafic memory cap
as i have 2gb
6oo+mb seems low for those specs
and my perfomance increase by setting video memory on higher
sorry to hear placebo to me they run great
householddog
Jun 18 2009, 06:37
is there a way to increase the grafic memory cap
as i have 2gb
6oo+mb seems low for those specs
and my perfomance increase by setting video memory on higher
sorry to hear placebo to me they run great
If you are running crossfire it can only use 1gb of the 2gb btw. Crossfire merely makes a copy of the memory, from one card to another. So, effectively you only have 1GB of memory anyway.
Arma appears to need high end hardware, but at the same time can't use it properly. According to the Fanboys this is all our fault.
UNA-C-Blade
Jun 19 2009, 16:02
Hey guys i have installd the new 9.6 ATI Driver stil when i play i have a flikkering problem its like am watching the Sun all the time its jut unplayble for me myn screen gos nuts
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Graphic Card: ATi Radeon 4870 X2
RAM: Geil 2x 2024 GB
Motherboard: ASUS Maximus SE
HDD: Sygate Baraccuda 500 GB
Disable Catalyst AI and see
kklownboy
Jun 19 2009, 16:24
Hey guys i have installd the new 9.6 ATI Driver stil when i play i have a flikkering problem ...
Graphic Card: ATi Radeon 4870 X2
...
Yeah the CF stobe is back... Run with one GPU as Horuss said...
UNA-C-Blade
Jun 19 2009, 17:02
oke il try tnx for help guys
kklownboy
Jun 19 2009, 17:38
oke il try tnx for help guys wait rename your arma2.exe to crysis.exe and see if that helps it works for me.
UNA-C-Blade
Jun 19 2009, 17:40
but what cind off grafic card you have ?
Ps. cant change it tho crysis.exe given me a error
ssgwright
Jun 19 2009, 18:10
would renamimg the exe activate fade?
Basil Brush
Jun 19 2009, 20:25
I give up with this game. I swapped from 4870 to 4890 and flickering is still there but its worse now as I get this (http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4306/arma22009061921203531.jpg) as well, quite laughable if it wasnt so annoying.
Thats what mine looks like. Good luck in getting it fixed.
http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=74926&page=4
Basil Brush
Jun 19 2009, 20:34
Its because your overclocking :rolleyes:
Gotta love em. :icon_hug:
rowdied
Jun 19 2009, 23:59
I give up with this game. I swapped from 4870 to 4890 and flickering is still there but its worse now as I get this (http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4306/arma22009061921203531.jpg) as well, quite laughable if it wasnt so annoying.
Try upping the video memory to very high. I have a 4870X2 now and if I change the setting to anything less than normal, I get those exact screens. I use latest 9.6 driver also.
I don't experience the flickering but the first time I started the game with the new card it reared it's ugly head and then disappeared after a few seconds.
I still have to run the game longer than 30 mins at a time so they might pop up again but for the short time the flickering has gone, fingers crossed.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.0 Copyright © 2013 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.