Mr Murray Editor Guide

[Overwhelming]

Hello everyone.

Years ago, I've waited a long time for the release of Operation Flashpoint. I loved it and still remember some good moments with it. I've skipped ArmA, but after all these years I'm itching to play a game like OF. So my attention now is directed to ArmA 2.

One of the things appealing to me, is the mission editor and mods. Searching a little bit here, I've found an excelent guide by Mr Murray.

Now I'm wondering if this excelent guide will be updated for ArmA 2. Does anyone know anything about this? Or knows the guy? :)

[Manzilla]

Hello everyone.

Years ago, I've waited a long time for the release of Operation Flashpoint. I loved it and still remember some good moments with it. I've skipped ArmA, but after all these years I'm itching to play a game like OF. So my attention now is directed to ArmA 2.

One of the things appealing to me, is the mission editor and mods. Searching a little bit here, I've found an excelent guide by Mr Murray.

Now I'm wondering if this excelent guide will be updated for ArmA 2. Does anyone know anything about this? Or knows the guy? :)

That's been discussed in a few different threads. Can't remember exactly which one though. It will be updated for A2 over time but I presume that wont be for quite some time, at least for the English translated version. It's still very early.

[Overwhelming]

That's good to know. Thanks.

[Shadow.D. ^BOB^]

Alot of the current information available in ArmA editing guides will be relevant to ArmA 2 aswell. Especially the more basic editor usage (tiggers,waypoints,etc.)

There are a lots of new functions and stuff for ArmA2 and im sure someone will get round to making another "Editing Guide" including these. The problem at the moment is that with the English version no being released yet, we have yet to see the complete documentation from BIS regarding new features.

As i said, alot of what has already been used in ArmA can be applied to ArmA 2. You will just have to wait a bit longer if your interested in the newer features.

[Overwhelming]

I don't mind to wait. I just wanted to know if there were any plans to update the guide (I'm fresh new to this comunity, so I don't even know if Mr Murray is still interested in this project or the game at all.

[raedor]

This could be interesting for you: http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Category:ArmA_2 Especially this subcategory: http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Category:ArmA_2:_Editor_Modules

MrM ist still active, even here on the forums. :)

[MattXR]

You can use his Arma 1 guide for the time being most of the things are the same!

[MemphisBelle]

OK Guys, since I am the official translator of the guide and leader of the translation Team, I talked to Mr-Murray and he said that I can answer about the hidden question in the first post of this thread.

Mr-Murray and me are working out the content for A2 right now. This is needed to figure out all the related things for book 2. This will exactly mean that an updated version of the guide for ArmA2 will definately follow. I only cant say somethings about release. Thats really much too early.

Most of the content of book1 can be used for A2 as well. That should help you waiting until releaseday.

Any questions about Book2 please in the official thread (http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=67426&page=25)

regards

MemphisBelle

[Alex72]

Glad to see it MemphisBelle! :)

Great work you all done and it should be promoted to all the new people we got in here since the launch of ARMA2. Im doing my best telling as many as i can. Your guide does make a difference. ;) Thanks!

Regards
Alex

[Overwhelming]

OK Guys, since I am the official translator of the guide and leader of the translation Team, I talked to Mr-Murray and he said that I can answer about the hidden question in the first post of this thread.

Mr-Murray and me are working out the content for A2 right now. This is needed to figure out all the related things for book 2. This will exactly mean that an updated version of the guide for ArmA2 will definately follow. I only cant say somethings about release. Thats really much too early.

Most of the content of book1 can be used for A2 as well. That should help you waiting until releaseday.

Any questions about Book2 please in the official thread (http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=67426&page=25)

regards

MemphisBelle

Thanks for the news!

That guide should be stickied in most forums.

[Mr-Murray]

Hello guys
Thank you very much for your interesting in my work! It´s really appreciated!!!

Please let me explain it with just one picture. It should answer all your questions ;)

Mr-Murray once again... on the trouble... :)

http://www.djkane.de/armashots/EG_II.jpg
(Just a draft!!!)

What I did with that Editing Guide for ArmA 1 was just to build a foundation stone for ArmA II.
Now I have more space to test things and add it to the new Guide. As you can see the possibilities
of the Editor and Editing are "nearly" the same. Of course, there are a lot of new features and so on.
What I have to do now is to unify all new and old features and explain it for all beginners and verterans
of course ;) Add all new Class Names, Modules, Functions, remove SQS (Otherwise veterans or BIS
gonna kill me ;)) and so on. The Modules for example will get an own very big chapter to show nearly
all possibilies of it.

You always can´t know anything. Thats the same for me, too. It is a lot of stuff and sometimes
I´m very glad that I have just open my Guide to find an explanation or syntax...

You should thanks Memphisbelle for his great translation and Dan and Matt Rochelle for their great revision.


If you have some additions, wishes or something else, don´t hesitate to write me!
My homepage will be English translated very soon!


Best regards,

Mr-Murray

[Manzilla]

:yay:

[Foxhound]

Awesome news, looking forward to another guide.

Will you release the German guide again first and later translate into English? Or will you just write an English guide this time?
Just asking for personal preference, no offence meant for writing the German guide first if you do so :)

[Mr-Murray]

I working on both. I want to deliver all new things to Mempohisbelle and he
will translate it simultaneous. At first I will be able to release the German
version. Please don´t forget that I have to layout both guides.

Therefore I´m looking forward to every support I can get to make it final as
soon as possible.

A hell of work but it´s my duty :o

[Foxhound]

Offcourse, I understand :)


Therefore I´m looking forward to every support I can get to make it final as soon as possible.

So to help you I help to spread the news (http://www.armaholic.com/index.php) ;)

[dale0404]

This is awesome news!

[Alex72]

You da man Murray! :cheers:

Greets
Alex

[Choki]

Good News!!!!

[NoBrainer]

@<hidden> - RESPECT !

[St!gar]

Suh-weet!

[Mr-Murray]

Thanks all for your mental support and this great motivation boost :bounce3:

[the chief]

Thanks for the last guide, in ArmA, it was invaluable. I look forward to the version for ArmA2.

[Overwhelming]

Great news! Looking forward to it.

Yesterday, when returning from holidays, the game was in my mail box! :D

Unfortunately, I'm having problems with my pc (i think it might be the hard disk dieing). Very slow. After 3 hours, ArmA 2 instalation was still around 80%. I quit. Even installing the new nvidia drivers took 15 minutes! Opening an explorer window takes a long time...

I'm gonna have to order a new PC, so that means I'll have the game in my shelf for weeks before I can play it! :(

[DiRaven]

Have read ur guide. Nice job done.

According to the Arma 2 many things have lost their actuality, but guide still worth reading.

Thanks again. U gave a lot of answers for my noob questions. =)

[Mr-Murray]

Thanks all, its really appreciated!!!

@<hidden>
Newly, I have had the same trouble at a new install. It has required nearly 2 hours.
I don´t really know what happend with it. *Humh*

[GoreZiad]

Wow, Mr-Murray, you helped me with a chopper script 2 years ago :D

Cheers man.

[Ringhejm]

This is going to be great... love to se how all the module is working.
Your the man Mr-Murray

[LockJaw-65-]

One of the most useful items apart from the game itself. Cant wait for release of this guide even more so now with all the module stuff which i have no idea about.
Great work Mr Murray and others that are involved :-)

[BoomBoomSate]

Awesome man:bounce3: Part I i found already very usefull. AO I hope u will give new information on using (search) lights !
Keep up the good work!

[Dogtags]

Hey Mr Murray how close are we to getting our hands on this invaluable resource?

[eirulan]

Suggestion for ArmA 2 editing guide:

it would be nice to have a chapter on how to create dynamic conversation with NPC's.
Is there any module which helps to create these dialogues: or it is heavy scripting necessary?

thanks
:)

[jpinard]

How relevant is the old guide for ArmA2?

[nettrucker]

How relevant is the old guide for ArmA2?

Most of the commands are still valid for ArmA II and therefore it's still usefull.
Regards

[Snyder]

This thread is very old, when can we expect the guide to be complete?

[Manzilla]

Oh my god I thought this was actually a post regarding a release, not spamming for a release date. When it's done I'm sure is the answer.

[TahMahn]

As many others have said, i'm not complaining or nagging.....

i'm just curious, will this guide be released soon?

[Mr-Murray]

Hello Guys!

After some vacation I´m back in scene and very motivated to finalize that thing!

Currently I´m heavy busy by analyzing OAH. I´m going to prepare A2 and AOH
in only one big guide. Some of my guys supporting me with new stuff and
some other help I need to make it final.

I have had some troubles with things like Win 7, some not working applications
and so on. Now my system works well and I´m looking forward to deliver
another great guide for all of you. Hopefully it will be appreciated :rolleyes:

You wishes are always very welcome! If you have detected something you
would like to have in that guide, please don´t hesitate to mail me. Everthing
I get which helps to finalize it makes me happy and faster to finalize it.


Yours,

Mr-Murray

[LockJaw-65-]

This is great news and something to look forward to, many thanks for your time and effort. :)

[Mr-Murray]

You are always welcome. I´m looking forward to finalize it asap!
After that I thing I´m going to write a new guide for good old OFP ;)

[BeerHunter]

So glad to hear you're working on updating the guide.

Not only is it a fantastically useful module building tool but also a wealth of information as to how things work , information that BI itself failed to provide. (and yes I'm too damn lazy to try all the permutations and combination's to see what the results are).

You actually should be selling it as it's invaluable. I still refer to the old ArmA1 manual for class names etc. as I hate having to close or hide the game while I try and find the appropriate WiKi site only to find out you're redirected to another one.

Keep up the EXCELLENT work.

[TahMahn]

wow, thanks for the quick reply.

and that is, btw, awesome.
Keep up the good work :yay:

[jpinard]

WOOHOO!!!!!! :yay: <--- I NEVER use the dancing banan, but here it's warranted. Very excited to hear this. Can't wait!

[*TEK*TONI]

Mr Murray,

first of all many thanks for your first editing guide! It´s been a big help and it still is!!

Since I just stumbled over this thread and your post where you "asked" for wishes regarding topics in your anounced "update"-editing guide, there is something I have in mind.

Proper working task-update in mp sessions on dedicated servers. Preferably
with taking JIP/respawn into account.

I know it´s a huge topic and that this one has been discussed many many
times in this forum, but this is something I still haven´t been able to get
work nice, smooth and reliable.

Even without taking the just mentioned "wish" into consideration, I´m looking
forward to your new editing guide anyway!

All the best...

[Manzilla]

You are always welcome. I´m looking forward to finalize it asap!
After that I thing I´m going to write a new guide for good old OFP ;)

You rock! Thanks for both.

[Mr-Murray]

Hey guys!
Thangs a lot! That motivates me some more :bounce3:

Best,
Mr-Murray

---------- Post added at 09:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:16 PM ----------

Sorry guys, but this is amazing! I have to post it here :bounce3:

Just added the old guide on my iPhone. There I´m able to read it with the free MyPDFs App. That´s unbelievable and really awesome!!!

http://www.djkane.de/armashots/EGoniPhone2.jpg http://www.djkane.de/armashots/EGoniPhone.jpg

[Yokhanan]

Welcome back to the scene, Mr. Murray! I'm looking forward the update. Your guide was a huge help. Not only was it helpful, but it was put together well and looked great! Wish you the utmost success, mate. :D

[Aussie]

Fantastic News My Murray!! Thanks for all your efforts :)

[Nielsen]

This is such great news!
Cant wait to check it out...

[Mr-Murray]

Currently I´m heavy busy to explain the modules with their possibilities.
There is maybe a chance for a pre-release of this part in order to consider
your feedback for the final guide.

[Koni]

Sounds good :)

Thanks for the Original Deluxe Arma Editing Guide, without it I may have never got back into detailed mission making :D

[Mr-Murray]

Btw. there is sill a lot space for wishes and additions!

If you would like something to suggest, something to
improve please don´t hesitate to write me.

[HeliJunkie]

What about some basics of FSM scripting possibilities ?
Viele Grüße !

[Mr-Murray]

Yes, that might be very interesting! I think, I could explain some basics in the Scripting Chapter.

Btw.: Hi HeliJUnkie, nice to meet you here! I hope you are doing well!?

[Mr-Murray]

The motivation is gettin´ back! Goin´ faster with every day!

Another 2 parts of the module chapter are finalized!

It´s time to get some additional translators - German-English
and 1-2 advanced members for quality assurance. Especially
with special knowledge about scripting (SQF/FSM) and multiplayer.

What´s about YOU!?



Best,

Mr-Murray

[Riserburn504]

is stoked for this

[Mr-Murray]

Another part has been finalized:

http://www.djkane.de/newguide/NewEG.JPG

[IndeedPete]

Looks great, keep on working! Your (old) guide really helped me and i'm eager to see the new one.

[Mr-Murray]

Interesting information:

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?p=1753572#post1753572

[kyfohatl]

Hey Mr-Murray. I've just used your ARMA guide and I must say... SIMPLY EXCELLENT. Sadly I didn't find out about your tutorial for a long time, which meant struggling with the wiki (I didn't learn much from it in the end anyway). But your guide was very well written with lots of examples and very noob friendly.

Could you perahps expand on the scripting section a little? There are some good scripting tutorials, but I found that none of the tutorials could explain the basic ideas as well as you could.

Anyway, keep up the good work :).

[Mr-Murray]

Hey kyfohatl,

thank you yery much for your great feedback!!!

Yes, I will expand the scripting section because there is a lot stuff to explain.

Just in this moment I´m sitting here with a coffee and copy & paste a lot of
stuff from Guide 1 to Guide 2 :o. But I love the new on already and you and the Com will, too :D


Best,

Mr-Murray

[kyfohatl]

Hey kyfohatl,

thank you yery much for your great feedback!!!

Yes, I will expand the scripting section because there is a lot stuff to explain.

Just in this moment I´m sitting here with a coffee and copy & paste a lot of
stuff from Guide 1 to Guide 2 :o. But I love the new on already and you and the Com will, too :D


Best,

Mr-Murray

:yay: Thanks alot.
Looking forward to your guide :bounce3:.

[Katipo66]

:ok: much needed and much appreciated!

[HamishUK]

That guide has been a Godsend!

Glad to hear there is a new one in the works!

[Mr-Murray]

I just want to let you know that the new guide will also include BAF and forthcoming PMC stuff.

[callihn]

Great stuff, anyone know how and have the software to OCR and bookmark it?

[Himmelsfeuer]

the release of your secound guide is definitly one of the top things in arma related releases, besides the pcm dlc and arma 3 of course:)

[AZCoder]

Sweet, much appreciated Mr Murray :)

[Mr-Murray]

Just a question: How you would like to prefer the Class Name Chapter in view of the structure?

Variant 1:
- Unit Classes A2
- Unit Classes OA
- ....

- Vehicle Classes A2
- Vehicle Classes OA
- ...

or better like this:

Variant 2:
- Unit Classes A2
- Vehicle Classes A2
- Weapon Classes A2
- ...

- Unit Classes OA
- Vehicle Classes OA
- Weapon Classes OA
- ...

[Max255[PL]]

v.2... Ant keep it just OA, not OAH.

Can't wait ;]

[Mr-Murray]

As you like :D

[kyfohatl]

Yeah, deffinately V2. It makes it easier for people who just have A2 and not OA, like me.
Thanks

[Mr-Murray]

Just another question regarding the class lists of Chapter 3.

It already includes a lot of Class-Stuff. Now I´m thinking about
to add to add just the Unit and Vehicles classes of A1 as well.

Is it a good idea from your point of view or just "the damnest
thing you ever heared about" :D


Thanks a lot for your feedback.


Best,

Mr-Murray

[Evil_Echo]

Put every bit of class list data you can find in it. Consider moving that to an appendix though, it feels slightly odd to look that info up mid-book.

[TRexian]

Put every bit of class list data you can find in it.

+1


Consider moving that to an appendix ...

+1... or does that make it +2 now?

[Mr-Murray]

Somebody's Arma-Desk

http://www.djkane.de/arma2/nufudesk.jpg

[Imutep]

What? No Operation Arrowhead? :D

[Mr-Murray]

It seems it was shortly after the A2-Release.
It's not my desk - only both guides on the left :-)

[Yokhanan]

EDIT: Nevermind, I got my post in late. Sorry, half asleep lol

[Antigoon]

Just wondering how things are getting along...
Looking forward to printing it out and really get going with editing:D

[Spamurai]

Mr Murry, you are truly epic, and your guide ranks up there with the greatest contributions to arma from the community to the community.


I hope things are progressing well on your latest addition, I'm sure it'll be as awesome as the original

[longskater]

this is my holy bible Cant wait for the release of an updated version kudos

[Mr-Murray]

A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU!!!

I stopped that project for a while. In the last year I worked not
really much for it because of several unfortunate circumstances
with the German Publisher. I´m very disappointed about the situation
and that´s exactly and the only reason why it is still not final.
And nearly a reason to release something like that guide nevermore.

Anyway! It´s 2011 and let´s see what I can do for the Community - but only if it´s still appreciated :rolleyes:

But before a come to you with another little present during the next hours ;)


Best,

Mr-Murray

[NoRailgunner]

Happy New Year Mr-Murray! :)
Think that a your editing/scripting bible/guide is still appreciated. Just wonder if you still have enough time to make missions and enjoy A2OA?

[Evil_Echo]

Always appreciate your efforts Mr-Murray. Do keep up the good fight on this.

[Coffeecat]

Hey eww thats sad. Anyway good new year for you too!
I would even pay for a new guide as PDF:)

[Mosh]

This is something I look forward to very much. I hope circumstances allow you to continue this. :)

[Mr-Murray]

As promised:
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=13122

:D

[Antigoon]

I would even pay for a new guide as PDF:)

I wouldn't have a problem compensating you somewhat for your hard work either, Mr. Murray! And I'm absolutely sure a lot of people can benefit greatly from your guides..I definitely do!

[Koni]

What unfortunate circumstances
have you been having ?

[Mr-Murray]

Actually I don´t won´t to post it here in the forums, but let me describe it in short sentences:


If someone is selling your intellectual property as an exclusive feature of his product and you
as author havn´t got any money for it, then you can talk about "unfortunate circumstances".
And that is exactly what happened.

The German Gold Edition of ArmA 1 includes a digital version of the Editing Guide.



.

[Breeze]

I would also buy the guide, If you need to sell your updated guide I would buy it. I loved your guide and still use it. Your efforts are very appreciated.

[Lonestar]

If someone is selling your intellectual property as an exclusive feature of his product and you
as author havn´t got any money for it, then you can talk about "unfortunate circumstances".
And that is exactly what happened.

The German Gold Edition of ArmA 1 includes a digital version of the Editing Guide.

It's really a shame. Once again a company took advantage of community's work.

[Coffeecat]

wow...that must be a joke. did they even asked you for that?:j:
i mean its free for all, but if you use it within a product you sell its something different.

[Breeze]

Has this happened before? and IS Bohemia the ones who took it? Or the Sprocket?

[Mr-Murray]

No worries, everything is fine with Bohemia and Sprocket. They always supporting me as good as they can.
Otherwise I wouldn´t be here *heh* Btw: Thanks so far to both of them.

I only got some differences with the German Publisher, because he sold my guide with his Gold Edition without
paying me for the rights to use it.

[Mr. Charles]

Lawyers to teh rescue!

[Breeze]

Yeah I would think you should be able to sue for something like that??

[Breeze]

So Mr Murray, will you be finishing that project? as you see others are willing to pay for it to. I really enjoyed being able to be taught things from a total new person perspective and thats what your good at. Alot of people assume things are understood when teaching. You don't seem to make that mistake.

Anyway I am indeed looking forward to it if it is something your doing?

[LockJaw-65-]

You are so much appreciated and your guide is a must have addition. Rather than you give up on it I too would pay for your efforts. Thanks for all work you have done to date

[garetjaxusmc]

I would pay for this guide as well. I dearly hope that the guide will be finished. : )

[yogdogz]

thank you mr murray for this great guide :)
i'm sure that there will be sooo many great mission born in the future because your priceless effort to the community. yay :yay:

[jake8787]

That is unfortunate about your previous guide. That said, please don't let the bad actions of one hurt 1000's of others. I know your guide has been the single thing at times that kept me from giving up all hope on Arma 2 and joining the hordes of call of duty.

Thank you for your previous work.

[droogs]

Wenn Sie noch mit Übersetzung für Englisch helfen würde mag Ich meine Hilfe anzubieten. Ich bin Englischlehrer als Fremdsprache und das Studium eines Linguistik Grad.

If you still need help with translation and proof-reading, I'm willing to offer my help. I teach English as a TEFL and am also studying a linguistics degree

[Demonized]

any news on the new guide?

[Overwhelming]

MrMurray, don't be discouraged with your IP theft.
If you setup a paypal donation button, I would gladly donate some €€ for the new guide. And I'm sure other people would do the same. You would be helping the community (your original intention) and earn some bucks for the trouble.

[Antigoon]

MrMurray, don't be discouraged with your IP theft.
If you setup a paypal donation button, I would gladly donate some €€ for the new guide. And I'm sure other people would do the same. You would be helping the community (your original intention) and earn some bucks for the trouble.

Indeed!

[Lonestar]

I'd be happy to donate for such a high quality project. :smile:

[TheRev709]

I am still amply looking forward to the A2 guide! I understand how aggravating it must be for someone to profit off of your work, but please don't punish the rest of us!

I support you 110% bother!